socialism v. capitalism: Rating Options

[NoSex]

i view capitalism as a mode of economic & social infancy. i think that it is regressive to society, poisonous, & under-developing.

i point to these basic "flaws" in capitalism*:
1. the emphasis on profit as opposed to utility.
2. the creation of oligarchy & plutocracy.
3. the unfair/uneven distribution of wealth.
4. the creation of a significant class divide.
5. the inability of capitalism, alone, to provide the people with necessities.
6. the exploitation of the working class.
7. the existence of crime in excess, caused by class struggle, poverty, & proletariat anxiety.
8. the creation of an oppressive institution (i.e. the police state, the church, the education system) in order to secure profits to a specific & elite population.

i point to these basic "benefits" in socialism*:
1. the emphasis on utility.
2. the destruction of plutocracy & (in many forms) oligarchy.
3. the fair distribution of wealth.
4. the destruction of a significant class divide.
5. the ability of socialism to provide for its people, necessities.
6. the affirmation of the working class.
7. the absence of crime invoked by squalor & proletariat anxiety.
8. the destruction of specific oppressive institutions & the opportunity to reform the state (i.e. despite the pull of capital & profits).

DISCUSS.

*quotation marks provided for argument's sake. whatever.

[NoSex]

But let's see. Socialism is a system that's bound to be taken advantage of by lazy individuals. They'll take the fair distribution of wealth and they'll not put in their fair share of work. Not everyone is created equal, and not everyone deserves to be treated equally. Uhh, I can't think of too terribly much against socialism ^_^

in my conception of a socialistic state, those individuals that choose not to work will be provided only what is owned most publicly (i.e. rations, shelter, the necessities). those who choose to work will be rewarded with "free" incomes, of which thing can do as they please (i.e. luxury & consumer goods).

How would you define, "fair distribution of wealth", NoSex?

those who do the most work, causing themselves the most stress, obtain the most wealth. the distribution of wealth, ideally, would be much closer to equal, but not necessarily equal. essentially, a small percentage of the population would no longer hold a majority of wealth, while most of the wealth would belong to a large working class.

In light of this, capitalism feels like a return to out of which jungle we labored so hard to climb.

that's a great perspective! bravo! i'll have to use this analogy sometime.

[mipadi]

that's a great perspective! bravo! i'll have to use this analogy sometime.

Shame I f*cked up my own copy editing. If you use the analogy, you'll probably want to phrase it in a more grammatically-correct manner.

[NoSex]

Shame I f*cked up my own copy editing.

no big. ahahha.