Violence & Abuse Rating Options

[batman]

What is it and what's your stance on it? If a woman hits a man, does he have the right to hit her back? If you get in an argument and it starts getting physical, at what point is it domestic violence? What's the line between child abuse and punishment?

I happened to read a comment on an article from MTV about the whole Rihanna & Chris Brown thing that sort of pissed me off. It's actually kind of funny, but...

She deserved it because: 1. She married a black man. Come on! Everyone knows that this is what black men do. Everyone knows this is part of "Black Culture." Black women like to shoot off their mouth and try to hit their men and then when they lose the fight they want him to go to jail. I am sick a this PC society where the REAL truth about people is covered up and all we hear on the news and this stupid comment board is that he is a "pig" or a "pu$$y" or an "animal." Wake up people! If a woman hits a man then she deserves to get hit back until she has learned her lesson. 2. She laughed at Britany Spears. It was all funny to Rihanna when Spears was going through a hard time publicly. Rihanna made the decision to be with this "proud black man"and she got what her decision earned her. Spears made the decision to do the drugs that were ruining her and she got what her decision earned her. Rihanna and many others laughed at Spears so Rihanna EARNED this public humiliation. 3. You have to be a real b1tch to get this bad. Chris Brown is not some crazed chimp like the one who attacked a woman in the Northeast. He is a human. She earned this beating through her own actions. She is not innocent. Brown did not just snap and start beating her from a normal argument. She MADE this happen. 4. If drugs or alcohol were involved then she still deserved it. This is like that stupid Phil Hartman killing. Hartman knew his wife was on drugs for years. He did them with her. He supplied her. They say he tried to clean himself up, but he had to pay the piper. Rihanna is learning the same lesson. If she and Brown are doing drugs then beatdowns are part of the package and she earned that too. 5. It is not racists nor is it wrong to point out the facts that you PC cowards run away from. It is a lie to say that "no woman ever deserves this" or "no one ever deserves this." YES THEY DO! This kind of beating teaches lessons such as don't mess with a man to the point that he beats you like this. This does not mean that all beatings are justified, but it is pretty obvious that Rihanna proved to all of us her lack of character during the Spears situation. People with a lack of character like Rihanna deserve to get beat like this. She earned it in every way.

http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1605533/2...0/rihanna.jhtml

lol, wtf man.

Anyways, I personally think deliberately hurting someone who's physically weaker than you and unable to defend him/herself is wrong.

[Gigi]

I've never been one to advocate the "B-but...she started it first!" excuse. It doesn't matter who started it, if you were a real man, you would know not to hit a woman back just because she hit you. I don't care if two guys want to fight it out if they have the same physical build. Not that I advocate violence either, but it wouldn't bother me this much. But in this case, Rihanna was obviously the weaker of the two, and yes, IT WAS a completely douche-y, beastly thing to do.

Either way, if someone is being a bitch to you, and you retaliate back with violence that she can't defend herself from...that's just wrong. At the very least you could walk away from the situation so you wouldn't have to suffer her "bitchiness". But she can't walk away from a guy who wants to hurt her.

Words might hurt, but f*ck that. Sticks and stones can KILL you. Verbal abuse =/= physical abuse.

At what point is it domestic violence? I'd have to say the moment either party inflicts violence on the other person with full intent to hurt them. There is no way Chris Brown can say that he didn't mean to beat Rihanna up that badly, and he didn't mean to hurt her. In the moment, he meant to hurt her and so that counts as domestic violence.

Child abuse, on the other hand...I think of that more like conditioning. A spanking on the butt here and there isn't going to hurt the child, it's just going to teach them (effectively) that whatever they were doing was wrong, so here's a spank to reaffirm that for you. Of course there's a fine line, but if the parent was in their right mind they would know not to cross it. It's not the same as domestic violence because nobody should be treating their spouse/gf/bf as their child.