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illriginal
post Feb 15 2009, 10:47 AM
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post Feb 15 2009, 08:32 PM
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Tama, the entire time you haven't been able to bring up scripture from your book that would counteract Reidar's argument. Why is this so?

You've been avoiding all the questions with vague videos and description.
 
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post Feb 15 2009, 08:53 PM
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QUOTE(saintsaens @ Feb 15 2009, 08:32 PM) *
Tama, the entire time you haven't been able to bring up scripture from your book that would counteract Reidar's argument. Why is this so?

You've been avoiding all the questions with vague videos and description.


It's simple really, you see (he's purposely or maybe he just doesn't know) he's misusing the verses to prove how Islam is violent, the only way someone can see the full context is by reading the complete chapter. In this case, you'd have to read all of Chapter 3 to understand the context.

I'm surprised he didn't use:

[Surah 8:12] Remember thy Lord inspired the angels (with the message): "I am with you: give firmness to the Believers: I will instil terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers: smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger-tips off them." (like most Islamophobes)


Which is a verse of a past time. Specifically The Battle of Badr

And for every 1 out of context violent verse, I can post 3 to combat it.

Here's an example that are out of context:

[Surah 5:32] On that account: We ordained for the Children of Israel that if any one slew a person - unless it be for murder or for spreading mischief in the land - it would be as if he slew the whole people: and if any one saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of the whole people. Then although there came to them Our messengers with clear signs, yet, even after that, many of them continued to commit excesses in the land.

[Surah 5:33] The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger, and strive with might and main for mischief through the land is: execution, or crucifixion, or the cutting off of hands and feet from opposite sides, or exile from the land: that is their disgrace in this world, and a heavy punishment is theirs in the Hereafter;

[Surah 5:34] Except for those who repent before they fall into your power: in that case, know that Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful.
 

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illmortal   Muslim Vs. Christian debating   Feb 15 2009, 10:47 AM
saintsaens   I think I'm in the mood for steak.   Feb 15 2009, 03:05 PM
emberfly   damn their voices are annoying.   Feb 15 2009, 03:06 PM
ArjunaCapulong   QUOTE(emberfly @ Feb 15 2009, 03:06 PM) d...   Feb 15 2009, 03:22 PM
illmortal   Ya I don't judge people by their accents, pers...   Feb 15 2009, 03:49 PM
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illmortal   QUOTE(9001 @ Feb 15 2009, 07:58 PM) I don...   Feb 15 2009, 08:02 PM
emberfly   ^ me too xD   Feb 15 2009, 06:11 PM
brooklyneast05   i think i'm missing the big deal in this video...   Feb 15 2009, 06:14 PM
illmortal   QUOTE(brooklyneast05 @ Feb 15 2009, 06:14...   Feb 15 2009, 06:17 PM
brooklyneast05   oh yeah, i think i just get mixed up about the wor...   Feb 15 2009, 06:26 PM
illmortal   QUOTE(brooklyneast05 @ Feb 15 2009, 06:26...   Feb 15 2009, 06:31 PM
Reidar   Both Islam and Christianity preach violence. Any A...   Feb 15 2009, 07:23 PM
illmortal   QUOTE(Reidar @ Feb 15 2009, 07:23 PM) Bot...   Feb 15 2009, 07:38 PM
AngryBaby   pwnt^   Feb 15 2009, 07:26 PM
Reidar   That would be the Al-Anfāl, and it's one ...   Feb 15 2009, 07:54 PM
illmortal   QUOTE(Reidar @ Feb 15 2009, 07:54 PM) Tha...   Feb 15 2009, 07:58 PM
Reidar   QUOTE(illmortal @ Feb 15 2009, 07:58 PM) ...   Feb 15 2009, 08:05 PM
illmortal   QUOTE(Reidar @ Feb 15 2009, 08:05 PM) Yes...   Feb 15 2009, 08:21 PM
Reidar   QUOTE(illmortal @ Feb 15 2009, 08:21 PM) ...   Feb 15 2009, 11:05 PM
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Reidar   QUOTE(illmortal @ Feb 15 2009, 11:10 PM) ...   Feb 15 2009, 11:35 PM
saintsaens   Tama, the entire time you haven't been able to...   Feb 15 2009, 08:32 PM
illmortal   QUOTE(saintsaens @ Feb 15 2009, 08:32 PM)...   Feb 15 2009, 08:53 PM
saintsaens   Yes, but there are still mentions of violence. Why...   Feb 15 2009, 08:58 PM
illmortal   QUOTE(saintsaens @ Feb 15 2009, 08:58 PM)...   Feb 15 2009, 09:05 PM
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illmortal   My head hurts... I'm gonna go to bed now.   Feb 15 2009, 11:37 PM
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AngryBaby   ..... dat dere cell tech?   Feb 15 2009, 11:48 PM
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