Extinct animal, fully resurrected by cloning. |
Extinct animal, fully resurrected by cloning. |
Feb 5 2009, 09:33 PM
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QUOTE The Pyrenean ibex, a form of wild mountain goat, was officially declared extinct in 2000 when the last-known animal of its kind was found dead in northern Spain. Shortly before its death, scientists preserved skin samples of the goat, a subspecies of the Spanish ibex that live in mountain ranges across the country, in liquid nitrogen. Using DNA taken from these skin samples, the scientists were able to replace the genetic material in eggs from domestic goats, to clone a female Pyrenean ibex, or bucardo as they are known. It is the first time an extinct animal has been cloned. Sadly, the newborn ibex kid died shortly after birth due to physical defects in its lungs. Other cloned animals, including sheep, have been born with similar lung defects. But the breakthrough has raised hopes that it will be possible to save endangered and newly extinct species by resurrecting them from frozen tissue. It has also increased the possibility that it will one day be possible to reproduce long-dead species such as woolly mammoths and even dinosaurs. Full story here. |
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Feb 5 2009, 09:41 PM
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I do often wonder if its not all bad and its only science but by cloning living things man is trying to take the place of God by making life.
Also in what seems to be a very unatural proccess and not the way god meant it to be. |
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Feb 5 2009, 09:47 PM
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I do often wonder if its not all bad and its only science but by cloning living things man is trying to take the place of God by making life. Also in what seems to be a very unnatural process and not the way god meant it to be. Not necessarily taking the place of "god" but more or less doing what "god" won't and hasn't done, which is let certain species die off. |
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Feb 5 2009, 09:50 PM
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Not necessarily taking the place of "god" but more or less doing what "god" won't and hasn't done, which is let certain species die off. You mean God has let species die off? I think its just part of nature. Maybe if humans had taken care of the earth better as God commanded it wouldnt happen but it life. If man hadnt sinned God wouldn't have sent the flood which gave us seasons. Mitosis is cell division. When the Earth was made over several million, or possibly billion years, it was nothing but a cloud of poison. And what about Parthenogenesis? There are a decent number of animals that use parthenogenesis. And budding, and other forms of natural cloning. Saying artificial cloning is wrong is like saying artificial light is wrong, because they aren't natural, or what "God" intended. You could be right! Just in my opinion something seems strange about it?! Man makes life all the time. It's where babies come from. Anyway, this is really, really, cool. I think it's great that they could (potentially) use this to help save endangered species or to bring back Littlefoot. Exactly but cloning isnt natural. reproduction through "sex" is. But its just my opinion! Maybe man is meant to do it to help preserve the life God made. |
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Feb 5 2009, 09:58 PM
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Feb 5 2009, 09:59 PM
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Feb 5 2009, 10:04 PM
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I dont think thats God's fault. I dont think its anyones fault. I think its nature/life?! "God" let it happen. If your dog and other little dogs where getting beaten up by humans, would you just sit there and let them beat him up until your dog and the other dogs die, or would you do something about it? |
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Feb 5 2009, 10:09 PM
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"God" let it happen. If your dog and other little dogs where getting beaten up by humans, would you just sit there and let them beat him up until your dog and the other dogs die, or would you do something about it? Thats just a stupid question? Cause of course i would. not sure if its quite related but it seems that people who are debating over if God is real say how come God let my grandad die if he can heal people. Cause people cant live for ever and its life! Not six thousand. 4.4 billion. Water didn't just appear, that defies every aspect of science, from crap it actually involves to zoology. Have you ever heard of the law of conservation of matter? Water formed when Hydrogen and Carbon Dioxide atoms bonded together to form water and carbon. There were no plants 4.4 billion years ago. Creationists are people who believe in the theory that "God" created the earth in seven days, and evolutionists are people who believe in ideas proven by science. I just dont see how you people think that these atoms merged by chance suddenly. where did seeds come from? the first animal. someone had to start it! evolution isnt proven! TAhere are so many missing points. Even the guy who "made up" yes "made up" evolution didnt believe it! He realized that the possibility of all those things happening was so unprobable. |
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Feb 5 2009, 10:14 PM
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Thats just a stupid question? Cause of course i would. not sure if its quite related but it seems that people who are debating over if God is real say how come God let my grandad die if he can heal people. Cause people cant live for ever and its life! I just dont see how you people think that these atoms merged by chance suddenly. where did seeds come from? the first animal. someone had to start it! evolution isnt proven! TAhere are so many missing points. Even the guy who "made up" yes "made up" evolution didnt believe it! He realized that the possibility of all those things happening was so unprobable. Hydrogen bonds. Carbon More carbon, made single celled organisms, evolved from there.. Pressure started it. Creation isn't proven. Your imaginary friend is missing some points too. I bet you couldn't tell me who "made up" evolution without google. Unprobable isn't even a word. |
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Feb 5 2009, 10:17 PM
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Hydrogen bonds. Carbon More carbon, made single celled organisms, evolved from there.. Pressure started it. Creation isn't proven. Your imaginary friend is missing some points too. I bet you couldn't tell me who "made up" evolution without google. Unprobable isn't even a word. Chalres Darwin? I didnt use google and that was the first guy that came to mind. |
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Feb 5 2009, 10:19 PM
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Feb 5 2009, 10:23 PM
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Chalres Darwin? I didnt use google and that was the first guy that came to mind. Read this: Wrong, He thought up natural selection. I hope, or I am going to feel silly. No! I said i wouldnt? where did that get mixed in the translation. A little rude. Im not going to state my age as if im proud that im older but I know just as much if not more than you. no offense. I know more than you cause im homeschooled! And i go to a school! I just do all my homework at home and go in once a week. Im writing a lot i dont look every everything for spelling mistakes. I smell bigotry. |
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Feb 5 2009, 10:34 PM
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Read this: I smell bigotry. Dont know what that means. 1) If you want to say your smarter than me go for it. It's not that big of a feat. 2) I was implying that I knew you were young, not that you were actually ten. But you are probably smarter than me. |
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Feb 5 2009, 10:39 PM
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9001 Extinct animal, fully resurrected by cloning. Feb 5 2009, 09:33 PM
JosephCohen123 Thats horrible.
Man trying to take the place of Go... Feb 5 2009, 09:36 PM
9001 Explain your logic. Feb 5 2009, 09:39 PM

IWontRapeYou QUOTE(JosephCohen123 @ Feb 5 2009, 09:34 ... Feb 5 2009, 11:06 PM

kryogenix QUOTE(IWontRapeYou @ Feb 5 2009, 10:06 PM... Feb 5 2009, 11:09 PM
IWontRapeYou QUOTE(JosephCohen123 @ Feb 5 2009, 09:09 ... Feb 5 2009, 10:17 PM
Tramatize QUOTE(JosephCohen123 @ Feb 6 2009, 12:09 ... Feb 5 2009, 10:17 PM
JosephCohen123 QUOTE(Tramatize @ Feb 5 2009, 09:17 PM) Y... Feb 5 2009, 10:20 PM
IWontRapeYou QUOTE(JosephCohen123 @ Feb 5 2009, 09:20 ... Feb 5 2009, 10:25 PM
9001 Mitosis isn't natural? It's like a second... Feb 5 2009, 09:42 PM
JosephCohen123 Is mitosis cloning?
I just think its wrong.
If an ... Feb 5 2009, 09:44 PM
crueldade QUOTEman is trying to take the place of God by mak... Feb 5 2009, 09:48 PM
Tramatize I think its crazy to try and bring back dinosaurs,... Feb 5 2009, 09:50 PM
9001 QUOTE(JosephCohen123 @ Feb 5 2009, 08:44 ... Feb 5 2009, 09:49 PM
9001 QUOTE(JosephCohen123 @ Feb 5 2009, 08:50 ... Feb 5 2009, 09:51 PM
JosephCohen123 QUOTE(9001 @ Feb 5 2009, 08:51 PM) f*ck, ... Feb 5 2009, 09:53 PM
9001 Because the flood was about disobedience, not sin.... Feb 5 2009, 09:55 PM
JosephCohen123 QUOTE(9001 @ Feb 5 2009, 08:55 PM) Becaus... Feb 5 2009, 09:57 PM
9001 QUOTE(JosephCohen123 @ Feb 5 2009, 08:57 ... Feb 5 2009, 10:03 PM
crueldade I spy a Creationist! :D Feb 5 2009, 09:55 PM
9001 QUOTE(crueldade @ Feb 5 2009, 08:55 PM) I... Feb 5 2009, 09:56 PM
crueldade QUOTEJoseph is a creationist. I'm an educated ... Feb 5 2009, 09:57 PM
IWontRapeYou I think it's great, but then I wonder if we ge... Feb 5 2009, 10:01 PM
JosephCohen123 QUOTE(IWontRapeYou @ Feb 5 2009, 09:01 PM... Feb 5 2009, 10:02 PM
illmortal RE: Extinct animal, fully resurrected by cloning. Feb 14 2009, 01:16 AM
9001 Do you have a video on hand for everything? Feb 14 2009, 01:18 AM
illmortal QUOTE(9001 @ Feb 14 2009, 01:18 AM) Do yo... Feb 14 2009, 01:34 AM
hi-C QUOTE(JosephCohen123 @ Feb 5 2009, 09:50 ... Feb 14 2009, 01:51 AM
illmortal The question is... is cloning such a good idea? No... Feb 14 2009, 01:56 AM
Tsukuyomi-No-Mokoto QUOTE(illmortal @ Feb 14 2009, 01:56 AM) ... Feb 14 2009, 04:17 AM
hi-C It's a fine line of ethics. Should scientists ... Feb 14 2009, 02:04 AM
9001 QUOTE(hi-C @ Feb 14 2009, 01:04 AM) ... Feb 14 2009, 02:05 AM![]() ![]() |