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post Feb 3 2009, 08:27 PM
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President Obama has a plan to create or save 3 million jobs. But did you
hear what Rush Limbaugh said?

"I hope he fails."


i got an email on my school account containing that. I thought was pretty f*cked up. ANY COMMENTS?
 
 
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dosomethin888
post Feb 3 2009, 09:44 PM
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Its not a big deal. Its called freedom of speech. Since when does anyone care what people say about them?


The media is probably just blowing it out of proportion to try to distract us from something else..
 
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post Feb 3 2009, 09:49 PM
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QUOTE(dosomethin888 @ Feb 3 2009, 09:44 PM) *
Its not a big deal. Its called freedom of speech. Since when does anyone care what people say about them?

I never really get this "freedom of speech" defense. It simply doesn't apply to this discussion. No one's arguing that Rush Limbaugh can't say what he said; they're arguing that he's wrong. Freedom of speech just means you can say what you want; it doesn't mean that you're free from any criticism resulting from your speech.
 
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post Feb 3 2009, 09:57 PM
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QUOTE(mipadi @ Feb 3 2009, 07:49 PM) *
I never really get this "freedom of speech" defense. It simply doesn't apply to this discussion. No one's arguing that Rush Limbaugh can't say what he said; they're arguing that he's wrong. Freedom of speech just means you can say what you want; it doesn't mean that you're free from any criticism resulting from your speech.


Its a radio program.. everyone knows that Rush is very opininated and very conservative.. it comes as no surprise to me that he said this. Im not saying its right either.. but he said it and freedom of speech is allowed. I know its offensive to Obama supporters.. so if it is.. dont listen to Rush.
And these people can say what he said was wrong .. but it doesnt change that he said it. People are going to say and do a lot of things that are "wrong." Dont be oh-so sensitive.. he after all didnt say it about you... and if Obama succeeds... you all can just shove it right back into Rush's face.

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well you could use the "freedom of speech" defense in defense of the people criticizing rush, too.


Ya...
 
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post Feb 3 2009, 10:07 PM
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QUOTE(dosomethin888 @ Feb 3 2009, 09:57 PM) *
Its a radio program.. everyone knows that Rush is very opininated and very conservative.. it comes as no surprise to me that he said this. Im not saying its right either.. but he said it and freedom of speech is allowed.

I'm not sure you even read what I posted, so let me reiterate: Of course freedom of speech "is allowed". No one is saying otherwise. But you're confusing "freedom of speech" with "freedom of speech, free from any criticism or response". Whether Rush is just an opinionated blowhard or not, a lot of people still listen to him, and that doesn't give him a free pass to not be criticized for what he says. Right or wrong, he said what he said publicly, and that opens his words up to scrutiny.

QUOTE(dosomethin888 @ Feb 3 2009, 09:57 PM) *
I know its offensive to Obama supporters.. so if it is.. dont listen to Rush.
And these people can say what he said was wrong .. but it doesnt change that he said it. People are going to say and do a lot of things that are "wrong." Dont be oh-so sensitive.. he after all didnt say it about you... and if Obama succeeds... you all can just shove it right back into Rush's face.
Ya...

Don't be confused: the criticism doesn't come from personal offense, it comes from disagreement with the words that Rush spoke. Just because someone disagrees, doesn't mean they are personally offended. Neither I nor most of the people who posted in this thread are personally offended by Rush, we just disagree with his sentiments; at the very least, we find them unhelpful for the country.
 

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KINGdinguhling   Hate   Feb 3 2009, 08:27 PM
hi-C   Rush Limbaugh... is... he's a walking talking ...   Feb 3 2009, 08:28 PM
WarMachine   QUOTE(hi-C @ Feb 4 2009, 04:28 AM) R...   Feb 4 2009, 01:28 AM
smoke   So was that taken out of context? I'm not defe...   Feb 3 2009, 08:31 PM
hi-C   That was definitely not taken out of context. Read...   Feb 3 2009, 08:35 PM
kryogenix   click to enlarge   Feb 3 2009, 08:37 PM
kryogenix   QUOTE(kryogenix @ Feb 3 2009, 07:37 PM) c...   Feb 3 2009, 08:48 PM
KINGdinguhling   cmon, i feel so bad for larry fitzgerald, made 2 o...   Feb 3 2009, 08:38 PM
smoke   Yup, well, he's extreme right and there are ex...   Feb 3 2009, 08:51 PM
kryogenix   Stimulus checks should be sent out in the form of ...   Feb 3 2009, 08:52 PM
mipadi   QUOTE(kryogenix @ Feb 3 2009, 08:52 PM) S...   Feb 3 2009, 09:05 PM
kryogenix   QUOTE(mipadi @ Feb 3 2009, 08:05 PM) Unfo...   Feb 3 2009, 09:06 PM
mipadi   QUOTE(kryogenix @ Feb 3 2009, 09:06 PM) I...   Feb 3 2009, 09:14 PM
hi-C   QUOTE(smoke @ Feb 3 2009, 08:51 PM) Yup, ...   Feb 3 2009, 09:01 PM
smoke   QUOTE(hi-C @ Feb 3 2009, 10:01 PM) I...   Feb 3 2009, 09:25 PM
kryogenix   Nah like they did it with the hurricane katrina ev...   Feb 3 2009, 09:04 PM
hi-C   QUOTE(kryogenix @ Feb 3 2009, 09:04 PM) N...   Feb 3 2009, 09:04 PM
kryogenix   Actually first off, explaint o me what the digital...   Feb 3 2009, 09:05 PM
mipadi   QUOTE(kryogenix @ Feb 3 2009, 09:05 PM) A...   Feb 3 2009, 09:08 PM
hi-C   QUOTE(mipadi @ Feb 3 2009, 09:08 PM) Well...   Feb 3 2009, 09:09 PM
kryogenix   Ohhhhhhhhhhhh. I see   Feb 3 2009, 09:09 PM
dosomethin888   Its not a big deal. Its called freedom of speech. ...   Feb 3 2009, 09:44 PM
kryogenix   QUOTE(dosomethin888 @ Feb 3 2009, 08:44 P...   Feb 3 2009, 09:45 PM
Comptine   QUOTE(kryogenix @ Feb 3 2009, 09:45 PM) l...   Feb 4 2009, 01:20 AM
mipadi   QUOTE(dosomethin888 @ Feb 3 2009, 09:44 P...   Feb 3 2009, 09:49 PM
dosomethin888   QUOTE(mipadi @ Feb 3 2009, 07:49 PM) I ne...   Feb 3 2009, 09:57 PM
mipadi   QUOTE(dosomethin888 @ Feb 3 2009, 09:57 P...   Feb 3 2009, 10:07 PM
dosomethin888   QUOTE(mipadi @ Feb 3 2009, 08:07 PM) I...   Feb 3 2009, 10:14 PM
KINGdinguhling   QUOTE(dosomethin888 @ Feb 3 2009, 06:57 P...   Feb 3 2009, 10:20 PM
dosomethin888   QUOTE(KINGdinguhling @ Feb 3 2009, 08:20 ...   Feb 3 2009, 10:21 PM
KINGdinguhling   QUOTE(dosomethin888 @ Feb 3 2009, 07:21 P...   Feb 3 2009, 10:26 PM
smoke   QUOTE(dosomethin888 @ Feb 3 2009, 11:21 P...   Feb 3 2009, 10:31 PM
kryogenix   well you could use the "freedom of speech...   Feb 3 2009, 09:51 PM
hypnotique   Rush Limbaugh sucks off bill o'rilleys penis   Feb 3 2009, 10:03 PM
smoke   QUOTE(hypnotique @ Feb 3 2009, 11:03 PM) ...   Feb 3 2009, 10:07 PM
kryogenix   Also let's not forget that Rush is an entertai...   Feb 3 2009, 10:14 PM
hypnotique   Ok you guys no need to turn this shit into a horri...   Feb 3 2009, 10:25 PM
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hi-C   QUOTE(smoke @ Feb 3 2009, 09:25 PM) It re...   Feb 3 2009, 10:49 PM
KINGdinguhling   i agree with legal marijuana i mean ron paul   Feb 3 2009, 10:52 PM
kryogenix   ron paul lives near me.   Feb 3 2009, 10:54 PM
smoke   See, I smoke, and I think it's harmless in the...   Feb 3 2009, 11:20 PM
KINGdinguhling   I agree, unless im super hungry, i dont usually wa...   Feb 3 2009, 11:22 PM
smoke   QUOTE(KINGdinguhling @ Feb 4 2009, 12:22 ...   Feb 3 2009, 11:35 PM
NoSex   QUOTE(kryogenix @ Feb 3 2009, 07:52 PM) S...   Feb 3 2009, 11:45 PM
hi-C   The only time I've been high, my friends were ...   Feb 3 2009, 11:50 PM
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IamLegend   One thing I never understand about people, is they...   Feb 4 2009, 12:06 AM
hypnotique   QUOTE(IamLegend @ Feb 3 2009, 11:06 PM) O...   Feb 4 2009, 01:15 AM
KINGdinguhling   damn, KC hit it deep   Feb 4 2009, 12:15 AM


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