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post Jan 24 2009, 01:24 AM
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Sometimes I wonder about changing my party affiliation but then I watch Fox News and silently thank God that I was raised a Democrat.

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post Jan 25 2009, 11:20 AM
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QUOTE(Comptine @ Jan 24 2009, 12:25 AM) *
Then, I want to figure out how Fox News' statisticians come up with their numbers.


are you kidding me? they poll their viewers. it's selective sampling.


QUOTE(Reidar @ Jan 24 2009, 01:47 AM) *
O'Reilly actually has dissenting voices from intelligent people, like Christopher Hitchens. I trust neither one of them for news, especially since the BBC comes on after their timeslots, so if I look at them purely as opinion shows, I'd much rather watch O'Reilly than Olbermann for the diversity of views, since both of the hosts themselves give me a headache.


for one, hitchens, in that instance, had a barely dissenting voice. to begin the interview by affirming his support of a war in iraq is a tad laughable. further, the interview was actually rather atypical in that bill rarely cut hitchens off, didn't cut his mic, & didn't scream like an ape @ him. when bill o'reilly has a "dissenting" view on his station it's a lot like kent hovind (or some equally infamous creationist) debating richard dawkins (or some equally infamous evolutionist) in a church flooding over the sides with self-described "sinners." bill o'reilly knows that it doesn't matter what he says in the debate or the interview, insofar as his flexes his moron muscles & barks like a dog... everyone watching his show has already decided who they disagree with & who they agree with. there is a good reason richard dawkins refuses to debate kent hovind.
 
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post Jan 25 2009, 12:12 PM
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QUOTE(NoSex @ Jan 25 2009, 11:20 AM) *
for one, hitchens, in that instance, had a barely dissenting voice. to begin the interview by affirming his support of a war in iraq is a tad laughable.


Disagreeing with the intrinsic point of what the topic is even about is not "barely dissenting". Ah, but you said "a barely dissenting voice". Yes, the tone of the exchange was not knee-jerk and reactionary. If I want that kind of a circus, I'll watch something that doesn't have Hitchens debating on its matter.

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further, the interview was actually rather atypical in that bill rarely cut hitchens off, didn't cut his mic, & didn't scream like an ape @ him. when bill o'reilly has a "dissenting" view on his station...


Which is every program, so either he's calm and rational on every episode (a hearty "hahaha" to that notion), or he's not akin to doing so against an opposing view. Also, Dawkins has both debated and interviewed people just as fundamentalist as Kent Hovind. Hitchens himself is on record in saying that he's usually disappointed in the degree of alignment that theists try to reach---it's the ones that "really believe this stuff" that make for a more interesting contrast. After Dawkins' The Root of All Evil? documentary, I wouldn't put the same inclination past him, unless you think Ted Haggard is a far more reasoned and conversable fellow.
 
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post Jan 25 2009, 01:26 PM
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QUOTE(Reidar @ Jan 25 2009, 11:12 AM) *
Disagreeing with the intrinsic point of what the topic is even about is not "barely dissenting". Ah, but you said "a barely dissenting voice". Yes, the tone of the exchange was not knee-jerk and reactionary. If I want that kind of a circus, I'll watch something that doesn't have Hitchens debating on its matter.


hitchens, honestly, is nothing spectacular. i haven't heard him, ever, say anything that a million people hadn't said before him, more eloquently & more poignantly. but that's against the point...

i'm simply saying that the tone of the interview was atypical. it was a bad example if you wanted to show what "dissenting voices" look like & or are treated like on bill's show.

QUOTE(Reidar @ Jan 25 2009, 11:12 AM) *
Which is every program, so either he's calm and rational on every episode (a hearty "hahaha" to that notion), or he's not akin to doing so against an opposing view. Also, Dawkins has both debated and interviewed people just as fundamentalist as Kent Hovind. Hitchens himself is on record in saying that he's usually disappointed in the degree of alignment that theists try to reach---it's the ones that "really believe this stuff" that make for a more interesting contrast. After Dawkins' The Root of All Evil? documentary, I wouldn't put the same inclination past him, unless you think Ted Haggard is a far more reasoned and conversable fellow.


interview vs. forum style debate. not the same at all. further, it doesn't really matter, i was just drawing an analogy for the sake of argumentation, it's not designed to be scrutinized on its factual merits.
 

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hi-C   Fox News   Jan 24 2009, 01:24 AM
Comptine   I seriously want to stab the person in the face th...   Jan 24 2009, 01:25 AM
gojira   LOL i hate foxfive news but it's funny to see ...   Jan 24 2009, 01:26 AM
Comptine   ^Wait. NO. That would be a seriously awesome story...   Jan 24 2009, 01:28 AM
FreshYetDead   Fox cannot accept that Obama is president.   Jan 24 2009, 01:44 AM
KINGdinguhling   Bill Oreily can kiss my black ass   Jan 24 2009, 02:04 AM
paperplane   I was raised among Republicans, and I'm still ...   Jan 24 2009, 02:20 AM
superstitious   QUOTE(paperplane @ Jan 24 2009, 01:20 AM)...   Jan 24 2009, 10:17 AM
Reidar   The other news channels are just as ridiculous. An...   Jan 24 2009, 02:29 AM
hi-C   I agree that all the news stations are ridiculous ...   Jan 24 2009, 02:34 AM
Reidar   O'Reilly actually has dissenting voices from i...   Jan 24 2009, 02:47 AM
hi-C   Yeah. That's the one thing I don't like a...   Jan 24 2009, 09:19 AM
carolannexbh   Have you ever seen OutFoxed? Its about how biased ...   Jan 24 2009, 10:32 AM
IamLegend   LOL @ Foax news. LOL @ them saying this ...   Jan 24 2009, 11:33 AM
Reidar   O'Reilly isn't even the most partisan one ...   Jan 24 2009, 04:44 PM
hi-C   QUOTE(Reidar @ Jan 24 2009, 04:44 PM) Sea...   Jan 24 2009, 05:36 PM
WarMachine   ^O'Reilly annoys me particularly due to his an...   Jan 24 2009, 05:06 PM
KINGdinguhling   he did get his ass spanked though   Jan 24 2009, 05:38 PM
hi-C   ^ I love that video. Robert Gibbs is the man.   Jan 24 2009, 05:45 PM
NoSex   QUOTE(Comptine @ Jan 24 2009, 12:25 AM) T...   Jan 25 2009, 11:20 AM
Reidar   QUOTE(NoSex @ Jan 25 2009, 11:20 AM) for ...   Jan 25 2009, 12:12 PM
NoSex   QUOTE(Reidar @ Jan 25 2009, 11:12 AM) Dis...   Jan 25 2009, 01:26 PM
Reidar   QUOTE(NoSex @ Jan 25 2009, 01:26 PM) hitc...   Jan 25 2009, 07:45 PM
NoSex   QUOTE(Reidar @ Jan 25 2009, 06:45 PM) It ...   Jan 25 2009, 09:24 PM
hi-C   Can we return this topic to Fox News?   Jan 25 2009, 09:26 PM
Dominiloka   YES! i am very much with you :)   Jan 25 2009, 11:19 PM


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