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Is School really for everyone?, or are we wasting peoples time?
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post Jan 23 2009, 03:19 PM
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So somehting that has crossed my mind recently is the idea of school in general ( not just college) and if it's really for everyone.

I went back home to CT over the winter break and as i got back to CT I noticed alot of the people I've gone to school with have either been left back in the same grade for years now or have dropped out of school or gone to an alternate school for people who've been arrested pregenant students or other things like that.

So I've been thinkin and i've come to the conclusion that School isn't really for everyone.
Here's my reason.

When you are young you can teach a child easily because they don't know anything really about the world around them. They rely on you help them out.
As they get older and get a better sense of their capabilites they go out on their own and explore the world for them selves thus learning intheir own way.

Now when you look at the school system everyone is sent to public school which is basically everyone mixed together and bunched into classes with a teacher who haas to control the students and keep them interested.
In a room full of kids like that it's hard to maintain the students who aren't as readily interested in the class.

The teachers don't really care much because they just have to come in and follow a cirriculum and give out assignments and such so they don't put much effort in to it but then again that depends on the teacher. Some teachers are dedicated to their work and enjoy it and want to really engage the students where as others jus brush it off.

So depending on the teacher a student may be interested in the class or they may not.

Private school is different however with a whole set of different rules such as school uniform to instill a uniform behavior, and a grade requirement so that only students commited to thier work can be enrolled, and lastly you need money to get in.

So there's a big difference in schooling in the basic levels of school.

Where my thought comes in is because when you look at people in those basic levels students that you see staying back year after year after year and end up 21 years old and still in 9th grade there's got to be a sign that says ok let this man go because he's grown up in high school and he's not really going to go any further.

My reason for this thought is because when I look at what happens with those people who stay back constantly and get expelled, they are the ones who get in to the most trouble at school not really showing up for class and not really puttin in the effort in their classes they just go to school because they are "obligated" to go there. So basically it's like saying they believe they HAVE to go to school. the ideal life to live in america is that you go to elementary then middle then high school graduate then go to college. But these people don't care for that so basically they are taking up space in the schools.

The way i see it is that if you force someone to learn something it doesn't nessecerialy mean that they will retain it. Yeah you can learn anything and everything but it never guarantees that you'll be good at it nor does it say that you'll be able to kick back information flawlessly either.

So keeping a person in school who is showing signs of no interest is basically like holding the person hostage in the school because they are only there to see their friends and nothing else so they are taking up the space that someone else could have occupied and gotten something out of.

Also the constant strain on people to go to college.
I don't see why everyone is pressured soo heavily to go to college off the bat because for some people college is nothing to them their parents pay for it so they jus go there and chill party and have fun the entire time not really showing school any care because they get money from the parents and they survive like that. meanwhile others jus go to college without a clue as to what they want to do and go there because they are told that they HAVE to go there after high school.

The other percentage of those people are the ones who are driven to do something with themselves and want to make something of them selves. there are a few who are somewhat unsure of what they want to do but still manage to find their way.

I don't think any form of education should be forced upon someone after a certian level and that level would be high school. once you get to high school if someone really shows no effort they should simply drop out and find some other form of occupation for their life.

No one can truly learn well if they are forced to learn someting they hav eno interest in or no motivation to do.

Me from personal experience I hated academics bacuse I was terribly un organized and I hated having to do all the different subjects but the ones i enjoyed i excelled in. Im in college now and I'm getting straight A's now because i'm doing something i want to do so it's no longer a chore for me to do. So that's where i get my reasoning from so please read this all and get at me tell me what ya think.

Btw i don't mean to be offending anyone it's just my thoughts....
 
 
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post Jan 24 2009, 03:06 AM
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Yea i get what ya mean.

Wher i come from though the teachers don't really care there's a very small amount of teachers who try and help students.it's really sad actually cause the violence in the schools are terrible i mean even teachers get attacked by students and all that and my mom has been a teacher at the high schools and she hates how the whole system works cause after a while the teachers are only tryna reach their retirment and get outta there
 

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Tsukuyomi-No-Mokoto   Is School really for everyone?   Jan 23 2009, 03:19 PM
9001   Some people are just wasting their time at school....   Jan 23 2009, 03:37 PM
Tsukuyomi-No-Mokoto   The way I see it is the U.S they lack alot of the ...   Jan 23 2009, 03:54 PM
synkiro   no one really "forces" anyone to go to s...   Jan 23 2009, 04:10 PM
karmakiller   I think you spell check before you post something ...   Jan 23 2009, 04:15 PM
Tsukuyomi-No-Mokoto   QUOTE(karmakiller @ Jan 23 2009, 04:15 PM...   Jan 23 2009, 05:45 PM
Tsukuyomi-No-Mokoto   If someone does not show the drive to be in school...   Jan 23 2009, 05:52 PM
Aberisk   I dont think people "need" school ,but p...   Jan 23 2009, 06:45 PM
karmakiller   So if people aren't motivated to pay their tax...   Jan 23 2009, 08:47 PM
Tsukuyomi-No-Mokoto   QUOTE(karmakiller @ Jan 23 2009, 08:47 PM...   Jan 24 2009, 12:17 AM
KINGdinguhling   hell no, of course not   Jan 23 2009, 11:57 PM
karmakiller   lol, bad analogy. I kind of see this conversatio...   Jan 24 2009, 01:19 AM
Tsukuyomi-No-Mokoto   Yea i get what ya mean. Wher i come from though t...   Jan 24 2009, 03:06 AM
alison-apples   School isn't just to learn. It's to fuel i...   Jan 25 2009, 03:53 AM
RoyalSwagger   hell no I want to drop out and not tell my parents...   Jan 29 2009, 03:34 AM
mipadi   Fundamentally I agree with you, but my opinions ar...   Jan 30 2009, 05:17 PM
KINGdinguhling   QUOTE(mipadi @ Jan 30 2009, 02:17 PM) The...   Jan 30 2009, 06:59 PM
shanaynay   I hate school, the only reason I go to it is becau...   Jan 30 2009, 07:26 PM


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