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Who should run next, Hillary, Palin?, Express who you think should run next and who should win.
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xodollfaceox
post Jan 10 2009, 01:45 AM
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I truly hope Hillary runs again in 2012 because she would do this country a lot of good. I do not think Paulin should even run. She mostly popularity. Who do you guys think?

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Reason for edit: Seeing "Paulin" all the time was bugging me. - Cristy
 
 
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dosomethin888
post Jan 21 2009, 05:38 PM
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I dont think ill of black people. It doesnt phase me one bit that he is black. But I did know by saying that that I would be called names like redneck and racist. I dont think Im making a rash judgement at all. Obama had so many advantages going into this campaign.. the money given to him by liberals and celebrities, the youth movement, his color, the mass media being on his side. Im not un-informed and I dont live under a rock and the fact is that a large group of African Americans voted for this guy because of his color and chose to completely overlook the fact that he is a liar, a flip-flopper on issues, has hardly any experience and his shady relationships. But I was only saying how it would be fascinating to see how it would play out if he ran against another black man. You all think I am un-informed because the majority of people on these forums have opposing views to me. Im not racist and when I make comments like that I shouldnt have to explain that Im not. You all need to get a little more informed and stop jumping on me for making harmless comments.

 
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post Jan 21 2009, 05:55 PM
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I dont think ill of black people. It doesnt phase me one bit that he is black. But I did know by saying that that I would be called names like redneck and racist. I dont think Im making a rash judgement at all. Obama had so many advantages going into this campaign.. the money given to him by liberals and celebrities, the youth movement, his color, the mass media being on his side. Im not un-informed and I dont live under a rock and the fact is that a large group of African Americans voted for this guy because of his color and chose to completely overlook the fact that he is a liar, a flip-flopper on issues, has hardly any experience and his shady relationships. But I was only saying how it would be fascinating to see how it would play out if he ran against another black man. You all think I am un-informed because the majority of people on these forums have opposing views to me. Im not racist and when I make comments like that I shouldnt have to explain that Im not. You all need to get a little more informed and stop jumping on me for making harmless comments.


Yes, because you are very informed. You said maybe to Palin running for presidential office. That alone should be enough to disqualify you from any more intelligent political debates.

Obama might not have been the most experienced candidate out of the two but the people voted for him. And you need to get off your "I'm effing informed damnit" soapbox when you obviously don't even bother to read cnn.com

1) Those shady relationships you speak off. McCain's supporters very vocally used a picture of Obama with a Washington lobbyist that was a huge player in the Freddie/Frannie Mae fiasco. They said that despite Obama's promise to help America with the current financial crisis, he obviously takes direction from the people who are responsible for it.

The lobbyist himself issued a statement. He met Obama ONCE for a few minutes which was when the photo was taken. He then turned around and cited several photos that showed McCain with a few of his advisers/friends. He noted that those people were the ones that he used to report to.

Maybe his pastor isn't the best role model for Obama. But, despite what the pastor has to say about political/civil issues, Obama attended church to hear about God. Everyone has friends who has flaws and some people chose to continue friendships despite those flaws.

I mean, Mccain apparently still think highly of Palin.

2) Obama might change his opinions on issues but I rather have him try to change his agenda according to what new things he learns instead of steadfastly sticking to his original views. Even in the midst of massive Republican failure, Mccain's campaign and his own party keep promising that they will stick to true Republican ideals, even though most of the American people disagree with that course of action.

3) Even if someone voted for Obama because of his race, is that exactly wrong? People, especially from YOUR crowd, vote based on religion. So which is the lesser evil?

I think it would be interesting if Obama ran against Palin. Let's see if she can humiliate herself some more.
 

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xodollfaceox   Who should run next, Hillary, Palin?   Jan 10 2009, 01:45 AM
Comptine   I totally support Palin. She truly shows how capab...   Jan 10 2009, 01:51 AM
brooklyneast05   QUOTE(Comptine @ Jan 10 2009, 02:51 AM) I...   Jan 10 2009, 01:55 AM
emberfly   QUOTE(Comptine @ Jan 10 2009, 12:51 AM) I...   Jan 12 2009, 06:55 PM
shannlovin   QUOTE(emberfly @ Jan 12 2009, 06:55 PM) ...   Jan 21 2009, 06:35 PM
berrypop90   QUOTE(Comptine @ Jan 10 2009, 01:51 AM) I...   Jan 10 2009, 01:57 AM
Comptine   Yeah. And it's about time we had a woman in of...   Jan 10 2009, 01:57 AM
brooklyneast05   good   Jan 10 2009, 01:58 AM
Tung   I was about to say....if you were serious...wow...   Jan 10 2009, 02:00 AM
Comptine   The sad thing is... there's probably people li...   Jan 10 2009, 02:01 AM
xodollfaceox   wow it's not a beauty contest. being a mother...   Jan 10 2009, 01:41 PM
Comptine   QUOTE(xodollfaceox @ Jan 10 2009, 01:41 P...   Jan 10 2009, 04:33 PM
Tomates   QUOTE(xodollfaceox @ Jan 10 2009, 01:41 P...   Jan 12 2009, 04:58 PM
hypnotique   QUOTE(Tomates @ Jan 12 2009, 03:58 PM) i ...   Jan 12 2009, 06:53 PM
Tomates   QUOTE(hypnotique @ Jan 12 2009, 06:53 PM)...   Jan 12 2009, 07:21 PM
brooklyneast05   QUOTE(hypnotique @ Jan 12 2009, 07:53 PM)...   Jan 12 2009, 10:17 PM
dosomethin888   QUOTE(hypnotique @ Jan 12 2009, 04:53 PM)...   Jan 12 2009, 11:24 PM
hypnotique   QUOTE(dosomethin888 @ Jan 12 2009, 10:24 ...   Jan 13 2009, 12:57 AM
mipadi   QUOTE(xodollfaceox @ Jan 10 2009, 01:45 A...   Jan 10 2009, 02:00 PM
brooklyneast05   QUOTE(mipadi @ Jan 10 2009, 03:00 PM) You...   Jan 11 2009, 11:21 PM
KINGdinguhling   i would not bone palin, or kiss her. I dont want b...   Jan 10 2009, 05:57 PM
hypnotique   Paulin?.........f*cking Paulin? Paulin? THIS IS ...   Jan 11 2009, 10:43 PM
rockguy   Hillary   Jan 11 2009, 11:12 PM
KINGdinguhling   oh yeah... why the f*ck does it say paulin   Jan 11 2009, 11:21 PM
rockguy   ^^look im not gonna argue or something like that, ...   Jan 11 2009, 11:48 PM
FreshYetDead   QUOTE(rockguy @ Jan 12 2009, 01:48 AM) ^^...   Jan 11 2009, 11:54 PM
dosomethin888   Hilary - no. Obama - Get him the hell out. Wait, ...   Jan 12 2009, 12:20 AM
mipadi   QUOTE(dosomethin888 @ Jan 12 2009, 12:20 ...   Jan 12 2009, 12:26 AM
hypnotique   QUOTE(mipadi @ Jan 11 2009, 11:26 PM) You...   Jan 12 2009, 04:37 PM
Aberisk   QUOTE(mipadi @ Jan 12 2009, 12:26 AM) the...   Jan 15 2009, 09:36 AM
JonHMChan   Obama 2012. You know. Re-election?   Jan 12 2009, 12:34 AM
dosomethin888   Leave Palin's daughter alone, people. Its seri...   Jan 12 2009, 10:16 PM
Comptine   QUOTE(dosomethin888 @ Jan 12 2009, 10:16 ...   Jan 13 2009, 12:14 AM
KINGdinguhling   QUOTE(dosomethin888 @ Jan 12 2009, 07:16 ...   Jan 13 2009, 12:58 AM
hypnotique   QUOTE(KINGdinguhling @ Jan 12 2009, 11:58...   Jan 13 2009, 01:05 AM
WarMachine   QUOTE(dosomethin888 @ Jan 13 2009, 06:16 ...   Jan 13 2009, 02:11 AM
hypnotique   QUOTE(WarMachine @ Jan 13 2009, 01:11 AM)...   Jan 14 2009, 02:23 PM
Rachel   QUOTE(dosomethin888 @ Jan 12 2009, 08:16 ...   Jan 14 2009, 06:34 PM
WarMachine   QUOTE(Rachel @ Jan 15 2009, 02:34 AM) HA...   Jan 15 2009, 06:46 AM
paperplane   Oh, this thread. Yikes. Anyway, I'll attemp...   Jan 14 2009, 05:32 PM
dosomethin888   my bad   Jan 15 2009, 01:02 AM
Gryffindor-Girl   I think Hillary should run in 2012!   Jan 15 2009, 04:15 PM
alison-apples   Neither. Ew. Hopefully Obama runs for re-electio...   Jan 16 2009, 03:24 AM
hypnotique   QUOTE(alison-apples @ Jan 16 2009, 02...   Jan 21 2009, 04:15 PM
emberfly   QUOTE(hypnotique @ Jan 21 2009, 03:15 PM)...   Jan 21 2009, 05:37 PM
dosomethin888   I actually hope a black man runs against Obama in ...   Jan 21 2009, 04:21 PM
brooklyneast05   QUOTE(dosomethin888 @ Jan 21 2009, 05:21 ...   Jan 21 2009, 05:18 PM
KINGdinguhling   QUOTE(brooklyneast05 @ Jan 21 2009, 02:18...   Jan 21 2009, 05:21 PM
Tomates   QUOTE(dosomethin888 @ Jan 21 2009, 04:21 ...   Jan 21 2009, 05:52 PM
WarMachine   QUOTE(dosomethin888 @ Jan 22 2009, 12:21 ...   Jan 21 2009, 05:26 PM
dosomethin888   I dont think ill of black people. It doesnt phase ...   Jan 21 2009, 05:38 PM
emberfly   QUOTE(dosomethin888 @ Jan 21 2009, 04:38 ...   Jan 21 2009, 05:42 PM
carolannexbh   QUOTE(dosomethin888 @ Jan 21 2009, 06:38 ...   Jan 21 2009, 05:45 PM
Comptine   QUOTE(dosomethin888 @ Jan 21 2009, 05:38 ...   Jan 21 2009, 05:55 PM
KINGdinguhling   harmless comments? you just said 90% of black vote...   Jan 21 2009, 05:40 PM
brooklyneast05   the problem was the you singled out one specific r...   Jan 21 2009, 05:48 PM
brooklyneast05   i didn't call you any of those names. reply to...   Jan 21 2009, 07:50 PM
dosomethin888   QUOTE(brooklyneast05 @ Jan 21 2009, 05:50...   Jan 21 2009, 08:48 PM
Comptine   QUOTE(dosomethin888 @ Jan 21 2009, 08:48 ...   Jan 21 2009, 10:32 PM
hypnotique   QUOTE(Comptine @ Jan 21 2009, 09:32 PM) Y...   Jan 21 2009, 10:53 PM
dosomethin888   QUOTE(Comptine @ Jan 21 2009, 08:32 PM) Y...   Jan 22 2009, 01:25 AM
WarMachine   QUOTE(dosomethin888 @ Jan 22 2009, 09:25 ...   Jan 22 2009, 02:23 AM
dosomethin888   QUOTE(WarMachine @ Jan 22 2009, 12:23 AM)...   Jan 22 2009, 01:32 PM
brooklyneast05   QUOTE(dosomethin888 @ Jan 22 2009, 02:32 ...   Jan 22 2009, 02:20 PM
KINGdinguhling   QUOTE(dosomethin888 @ Jan 22 2009, 10:32 ...   Jan 22 2009, 04:55 PM
Comptine   QUOTE(dosomethin888 @ Jan 22 2009, 01:25 ...   Jan 22 2009, 09:38 AM
emberfly   pwned.   Jan 21 2009, 05:56 PM
Tomates   and one more thing i just want to add, i really do...   Jan 21 2009, 06:01 PM
emberfly   This is off-topic...... kind of? but I just wanted...   Jan 21 2009, 06:07 PM
Tomates   QUOTE(emberfly @ Jan 21 2009, 06:07 PM) T...   Jan 21 2009, 06:08 PM
emberfly   ^ I updated it, and no, i'm not joking.....ven...   Jan 21 2009, 06:10 PM
Tomates   QUOTE(emberfly @ Jan 21 2009, 06:10 PM) ^...   Jan 21 2009, 06:11 PM
shannlovin   obama 2012! lollll xD i don't mind clinton...   Jan 21 2009, 06:14 PM
Tomates   (shan this isnt towards you initially its also to ...   Jan 21 2009, 06:19 PM
Comptine   QUOTE(Tomates @ Jan 21 2009, 06:19 PM) (s...   Jan 21 2009, 06:39 PM
shanaynay   Colbert/Stewart 2012!!!   Jan 21 2009, 06:32 PM
shannlovin   it didn't happen this year^ and were in tough ...   Jan 21 2009, 06:43 PM
Comptine   ^Because the Constitution only allows for a presid...   Jan 21 2009, 06:44 PM
shannlovin   QUOTE(Comptine @ Jan 21 2009, 06:44 PM) ^...   Jan 22 2009, 04:32 PM
dosomethin888   Im not racist in saying that the majority of black...   Jan 21 2009, 07:48 PM
Tomates   QUOTE(dosomethin888 @ Jan 21 2009, 07:48 ...   Jan 21 2009, 08:02 PM
salcha4u   QUOTE(dosomethin888 @ Jan 21 2009, 04:48 ...   Jan 21 2009, 11:01 PM
9001   It is about looks. The President is powerless wit...   Jan 21 2009, 07:51 PM
brooklyneast05   yes, two days in office and you already are the au...   Jan 21 2009, 08:51 PM
dosomethin888   QUOTE(brooklyneast05 @ Jan 21 2009, 06:51...   Jan 21 2009, 08:53 PM
brooklyneast05   i'm not the one calling him a savior or callin...   Jan 21 2009, 08:54 PM
dosomethin888   QUOTE(brooklyneast05 @ Jan 21 2009, 06:54...   Jan 21 2009, 08:57 PM
Aberisk   QUOTE(dosomethin888 @ Jan 21 2009, 08:57 ...   Jan 21 2009, 09:05 PM
dosomethin888   QUOTE(Aberisk @ Jan 21 2009, 07:05 PM) I ...   Jan 21 2009, 09:32 PM
Aberisk   QUOTE(dosomethin888 @ Jan 21 2009, 09:32 ...   Jan 21 2009, 09:37 PM
KINGdinguhling   QUOTE(dosomethin888 @ Jan 21 2009, 06:32 ...   Jan 21 2009, 11:31 PM
brooklyneast05   i haven't read any of his books/books about hi...   Jan 21 2009, 08:58 PM
dosomethin888   QUOTE(brooklyneast05 @ Jan 21 2009, 06:58...   Jan 21 2009, 08:58 PM
KINGdinguhling   QUOTE(dosomethin888 @ Jan 21 2009, 05:58 ...   Jan 21 2009, 09:10 PM
brooklyneast05   i wouldn't read obama nation anyway because of...   Jan 21 2009, 09:00 PM
brooklyneast05   http://mediamatters.org/items/200808040005#2008080...   Jan 21 2009, 09:40 PM
KINGdinguhling   Be careful with your words next time. Your previou...   Jan 22 2009, 01:45 AM
KINGdinguhling   QUOTE(dosomethin888 @ Jan 21 2009, 04:48 ...   Jan 22 2009, 07:35 AM
paperplane   I'd point out (since most of what I'd like...   Jan 22 2009, 03:08 PM
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