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post Nov 23 2008, 10:56 AM
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"Are religionists so thin-skinned they must squelch free debate? One small freethought billboard in the immense state of California is such a threat to insecure religious egos that it must be censored?


I support freedom of religion and all, but I don't see any billboards advertising other religions. So...I guess it's only fair?
 
 
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post Nov 24 2008, 11:22 PM
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Oh, I didn't realize that I'd cut out my disclaimer. I don't have a problem with what you believe in terms of a religion, I have a problem with how you judge people according to that. Christianity doesn't just involve doing shit; loving others is a pretty big part of it. Far more important, I'd say. I make no pretense of being a true Christian, so it's not the least bit hypocritical of me to judge you for the things you say. And yeah, I'm judging you for the things that you say, not your religious beliefs. I have plenty of friends who center their lives around their belief in God, but they manage to actually be good people and not look down upon those who don't live by a rigid set of beliefs. God, I went to mass last night an was unusually inspired by the readings and homilies, because none of it involved condemning other people. It's that shit that gives Christians a bad name, not the ones who are simply living their lives the way they want to live it. Yeah, if people want to have one night stands, do those things, whatever...it is fine. It doesn't effect you. You should know that God will determine whether their faith is true, it's not your place.

You didn't say, but you certainly implied. Like that Republicanism is somehow more adherent to be Bible, which it isn't. And shouldn't be. This is not a theocracy.

It shouldn't be about "the religion," it should be about one's own personal beliefs. Hence the billboard. Which is not even "atheist," by the way.
 
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post Nov 24 2008, 11:37 PM
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QUOTE(paperplane @ Nov 24 2008, 09:22 PM) *
Oh, I didn't realize that I'd cut out my disclaimer. I don't have a problem with what you believe in terms of a religion, I have a problem with how you judge people according to that. Christianity doesn't just involve doing shit; loving others is a pretty big part of it. Far more important, I'd say. I make no pretense of being a true Christian, so it's not the least bit hypocritical of me to judge you for the things you say. And yeah, I'm judging you for the things that you say, not your religious beliefs. I have plenty of friends who center their lives around their belief in God, but they manage to actually be good people and not look down upon those who don't live by a rigid set of beliefs. God, I went to mass last night an was unusually inspired by the readings and homilies, because none of it involved condemning other people. It's that shit that gives Christians a bad name, not the ones who are simply living their lives the way they want to live it. Yeah, if people want to have one night stands, do those things, whatever...it is fine. It doesn't effect you. You should know that God will determine whether their faith is true, it's not your place.

You didn't say, but you certainly implied.

It shouldn't be about "the religion," it should be about one's own personal beliefs. Hence the billboard. Which is not even "atheist," by the way.


Maybe because this is a forum and you dont actually know me as a person that I come off as judgemental. I would never have said those things about Christians if Brooklyn had not said that they are the ones that do them more than others. I do not judge people. I am not a racist, I am not a sexist, and I certainly dont think of others through their appearances. Im pretty sure Im a pretty nice person.

And I know its not completely about the religion. Its about a person's personal relationship with God. But God demands that we live our lives according to his rules, that we obey the rules he has put in the Bible and try to honor him in everything we do. If you have Jesus Christ in your heart, then you are a Christian. But then there are these people walkin around doin this and doin that, not trying at all to do what God wants and not trying to do anything that benefits Him. I dont ever go around condeming people. I think both play a part in giving Christians a bad name, as well as the ones who are simply living their lives the way they want to live it.

I want you to understand what I meant about my aunt. She is a woman who wants absolutely nothing to do with God or us, my family, the Christians. She constantly curses "Jesus Christ!" and "God Dammit!" blatantly in front of us. When she asks my mom what she did last weekend, and my mom dares to say that she went to a Christian Women's conference. She rolls her eyes and makes a face as soon as my mom looks away. She has extreme liberal (I dared to say it) views that dont agree with the Bible. And then one day she tells me "Ya, Im a Christian." Whatever. Whatever. Whatever.
 

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SilentLaugh   Athiest Billboard Taken Down   Nov 23 2008, 10:56 AM
berrypop90   I see religious billboards/ads & commercials e...   Nov 23 2008, 02:26 PM
brooklyneast05   yeah isn't there like big signs all over place...   Nov 23 2008, 02:30 PM
Tung   You're a proof of how the media has use Religi...   Nov 23 2008, 02:32 PM
Janette   QUOTE(Tung @ Nov 23 2008, 11:32 AM) You...   Nov 23 2008, 02:42 PM
SilentLaugh   QUOTE(Janette @ Nov 23 2008, 02:42 PM) I...   Nov 24 2008, 05:09 PM
Joannnnnne   QUOTE(Tung @ Nov 23 2008, 11:32 AM) I do...   Nov 24 2008, 12:22 PM
Jenni   i think everybody should appreciate everybody...   Nov 23 2008, 02:34 PM
mipadi   QUOTE(SilentLaugh @ Nov 23 2008, 10:56 AM...   Nov 24 2008, 10:08 AM
kryogenix   It's the American way!   Nov 24 2008, 10:31 AM
YukkaPukka   =/ the churches do it. they should be able to, too...   Nov 24 2008, 02:27 PM
brooklyneast05   QUOTE(YukkaPukka @ Nov 24 2008, 03:27 PM)...   Nov 24 2008, 02:40 PM
Reidar   QUOTE(YukkaPukka @ Nov 24 2008, 02:27 PM)...   Nov 24 2008, 11:45 PM
NoSex   QUOTE(Reidar @ Nov 24 2008, 10:45 PM) Do ...   Nov 24 2008, 11:51 PM
Reidar   QUOTE(NoSex @ Nov 24 2008, 11:51 PM) http...   Nov 24 2008, 11:57 PM
Joannnnnne   RE: Athiest Billboard Taken Down   Nov 24 2008, 02:44 PM
Joss-eh-lime   that is stupid message & that billboard was ob...   Nov 24 2008, 03:13 PM
brooklyneast05   how is it really that obnoxious? it's just a b...   Nov 24 2008, 03:21 PM
Joss-eh-lime   QUOTE(brooklyneast05 @ Nov 24 2008, 12:21...   Nov 24 2008, 11:02 PM
FreshYetDead   Way to show freedom of speech. I think that every ...   Nov 24 2008, 04:54 PM
dosomethin888   Arent billboards taken down all the time? I heard ...   Nov 24 2008, 05:57 PM
SharperMyspace   um.. Atheism isn't a religion, so it's not...   Nov 24 2008, 06:43 PM
Tung   QUOTE(SharperMyspace @ Nov 24 2008, 03:43...   Nov 24 2008, 06:44 PM
FreshYetDead   QUOTE(SharperMyspace @ Nov 24 2008, 08:43...   Nov 24 2008, 08:21 PM
NoSex   QUOTE(SharperMyspace @ Nov 24 2008, 05:43...   Nov 24 2008, 08:14 PM
dosomethin888   QUOTE(NoSex @ Nov 24 2008, 06:14 PM) well...   Nov 24 2008, 08:45 PM
NoSex   QUOTE(dosomethin888 @ Nov 24 2008, 07:45 ...   Nov 24 2008, 08:53 PM
dosomethin888   QUOTEoh shut the f*ck up, christians get all hard ...   Nov 24 2008, 09:02 PM
Hedonism   QUOTE(dosomethin888 @ Nov 24 2008, 09:02 ...   Nov 24 2008, 09:16 PM
dosomethin888   QUOTE(Hedonism @ Nov 24 2008, 07:16 PM) W...   Nov 24 2008, 09:18 PM
brooklyneast05   QUOTE(dosomethin888 @ Nov 24 2008, 10:18 ...   Nov 24 2008, 09:27 PM
dosomethin888   QUOTE(brooklyneast05 @ Nov 24 2008, 07:27...   Nov 24 2008, 10:44 PM
Tomates   QUOTE(dosomethin888 @ Nov 24 2008, 10:44 ...   Nov 25 2008, 06:14 PM
NoSex   QUOTE(Tomates @ Nov 25 2008, 05:14 PM) Do...   Nov 25 2008, 10:14 PM
dosomethin888   QUOTE(Tomates @ Nov 25 2008, 04:14 PM) af...   Nov 26 2008, 12:05 AM
NoSex   QUOTE(dosomethin888 @ Nov 25 2008, 11:05 ...   Nov 26 2008, 08:59 AM
doughnut   QUOTE(dosomethin888 @ Nov 25 2008, 09:45 ...   Nov 26 2008, 09:24 AM
Hedonism   *sigh* You gotta love the zealots.   Nov 24 2008, 08:47 PM
paperplane   If we were anywhere else on the internet, I'd ...   Nov 24 2008, 09:11 PM
brooklyneast05   oh man, i wish only atheists had sex, that would b...   Nov 24 2008, 09:18 PM
paperplane   That makes too much sense man   Nov 24 2008, 09:27 PM
paperplane   oh, f*ck off. You have NO right to judge whether s...   Nov 24 2008, 11:02 PM
dosomethin888   QUOTE(paperplane @ Nov 24 2008, 09:02 PM)...   Nov 24 2008, 11:12 PM
paperplane   Oh, I didn't realize that I'd cut out my d...   Nov 24 2008, 11:22 PM
dosomethin888   QUOTE(paperplane @ Nov 24 2008, 09:22 PM)...   Nov 24 2008, 11:37 PM
JonHMChan   The biggest problem I have with organized religion...   Nov 24 2008, 11:25 PM
NoSex   QUOTE(dosomethin888 @ Nov 24 2008, 09:44 ...   Nov 24 2008, 11:34 PM
brooklyneast05   yeah which again is my point in what i said before...   Nov 24 2008, 11:49 PM
JonHMChan   Speaking of the United States being a principally ...   Nov 24 2008, 11:54 PM
paperplane   Those quotes are photoshopped. The US is a Christ...   Nov 24 2008, 11:55 PM
brooklyneast05   QUOTE(paperplane @ Nov 25 2008, 12:55 AM)...   Nov 25 2008, 12:00 AM
SharperMyspace   ok. This is why I can't stand these forums, an...   Nov 25 2008, 12:04 AM
NoSex   QUOTE(SharperMyspace @ Nov 24 2008, 11:04...   Nov 25 2008, 12:11 AM
JonHMChan   What does it even mean to say that a quotation is ...   Nov 25 2008, 12:06 AM
paperplane   QUOTE(JonHMChan @ Nov 25 2008, 12:06 AM) ...   Nov 25 2008, 12:07 AM
brooklyneast05   RE: Athiest Billboard Taken Down   Nov 25 2008, 12:07 AM
JonHMChan   You don't get it. Now it's just cowardice....   Nov 25 2008, 12:11 AM
brooklyneast05   QUOTE(JonHMChan @ Nov 25 2008, 01:11 AM) ...   Nov 25 2008, 12:13 AM
paperplane   QUOTE(JonHMChan @ Nov 25 2008, 12:11 AM) ...   Nov 25 2008, 12:14 AM
JonHMChan   My mistake then. I got heated. Debating organized ...   Nov 25 2008, 12:27 AM
Hedonism   Also, aren't we supposed to stone adulterers a...   Nov 25 2008, 10:35 PM


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