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post Nov 21 2008, 10:16 PM
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I know this might be old, but I just heard about it. Obama's not a US born citizen, yet why was he eligible to run for President? Wasn't one of the rules to run was to be a natural born US citizen? Someone told me, there was some cover up and conspiracy about how he faked his birth certificate and how he was born in Hawaii or something.
 
 
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post Nov 24 2008, 10:37 PM
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Maybe you're not, but that site pretty much is. To be fair, I'd only watched half the video when I posted that response; I've since finished it and watched the Fox News clip. It doesn't matter where they were; if those were the best informed people they could find, they didn't try hard enough. It would not have helped their cause to tape people who were actually well-informed. I could answer the vast majority of those questions (admittedly, I knew nothing of that coal industry remark, but I fully intend to research it).

They didn't show that clip about the 57 states in its entirety; it seems fairly obvious that he misspoke and meant 47 states. He'd visited 47 states, had one more to go, and wasn't visiting Alaska or Hawaii. 47 + 3 = 50. I'm not trying to blindly defend here, but good god, you can't have a video on how the media misrepresented things and then do it yourself. Same for the Russia question: he was asking multiple choice questions, with the choices being Biden, McCain, Obama, or Palin. Not Sarah Palin vs Tina Fey. SNL is a comedy show, and has no obligation to present accurate news. But of those four choices, Palin was by far the most correct. If "I can see Russia from my house" were that far a cry from "we're very close to Russia," it would not have made a good joke to begin with. So I absolutely do not think anyone can be faulted for thinking Palin said that; it was a trick question. If this guy has to result to asking trick questions to make people look dumb, he probably does not have a very strong argument to begin with.

But anyway, I don't think it's the media's fault that people don't bother to read comprehensively. All of those things were shown on tv, or printed in the papers. It's not like the headlines consisted of SARAH PALIN SAYS SOMETHING DUMB AGAIN and never mention the fact that Nancy Pelosi is speaker of the hour. For f*ck's sake. Those people were not "informed Obama supporters," they were "informed partisans" at best, as they clearly chose to ignore every piece of information that did not suit their interests. If all you watch is the Daily Show...yeah, you're not going to get a particularly well-rounded view of the political environment. However, the same goes for people who watch Hannity or O'Reilly.
 

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Tung   Obama   Nov 21 2008, 10:16 PM
Mikeplyts   ^Yeah I heard that too. Hmmmm... What the hell, g...   Nov 21 2008, 10:17 PM
Tung   I'm waiting for someone like Steven or JC to r...   Nov 21 2008, 10:35 PM
brooklyneast05   he was born in hawaii, after it became a state. so...   Nov 21 2008, 10:51 PM
Tung   What's all this stuff about him being born in ...   Nov 21 2008, 11:01 PM
FreshYetDead   QUOTE(Tung @ Nov 22 2008, 01:01 AM) What...   Nov 22 2008, 12:53 AM
brooklyneast05   all i know is there was some big rumor about it. i...   Nov 21 2008, 11:07 PM
mipadi   Just a rumor, and an old one at that. He's a U...   Nov 21 2008, 11:15 PM
technicolour   There was this thing that he was actually born in ...   Nov 21 2008, 11:32 PM
kryogenix   QUOTE(technicolour @ Nov 21 2008, 10:32 P...   Nov 22 2008, 12:11 AM
SharperMyspace   QUOTE(technicolour @ Nov 21 2008, 10:32 P...   Nov 22 2008, 12:51 AM
dosomethin888   Ya he isnt. WHAT THE HELL.   Nov 22 2008, 12:54 AM
Reidar   Yes, he is. Stand aside and let Papa Bear confirm ...   Nov 22 2008, 02:49 AM
Tung   That's really assuring.   Nov 22 2008, 02:59 AM
paperplane   QUOTE(technicolour @ Nov 21 2008, 11:32 P...   Nov 22 2008, 04:44 AM
Whinoa   http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/o/obama-birth...   Nov 22 2008, 05:06 AM
Aberisk   yea, obama was born in Hawaii raised in Indonesia ...   Nov 22 2008, 11:30 AM
heartquasm   he graduated from my college (undergrad) ^.^   Nov 22 2008, 11:57 AM
Tomates   I heard something where his mother and father live...   Nov 22 2008, 11:33 AM
DontStealMyNameImJamie   What's with everyone starting rumors about Oba...   Nov 22 2008, 11:36 AM
paperplane   QUOTE(DontStealMyNameImJamie @ Nov 22 2008, 1...   Nov 22 2008, 11:40 AM
DontStealMyNameImJamie   QUOTE(paperplane @ Nov 22 2008, 11:40 AM)...   Nov 22 2008, 11:45 AM
brooklyneast05   QUOTE(DontStealMyNameImJamie @ Nov 22 2008, 1...   Nov 22 2008, 11:57 AM
dosomethin888   QUOTE(brooklyneast05 @ Nov 22 2008, 09:57...   Nov 22 2008, 02:15 PM
DontStealMyNameImJamie   QUOTE(dosomethin888 @ Nov 22 2008, 02:15 ...   Nov 22 2008, 03:27 PM
NoSex   QUOTE(dosomethin888 @ Nov 22 2008, 01:15 ...   Nov 22 2008, 07:20 PM
TheFranchise216   I know a lot of this was said already but I'm ...   Nov 22 2008, 01:37 PM
paperplane   Let's think about this...if Obama's father...   Nov 22 2008, 03:06 PM
brooklyneast05   lol it's not racist, it's the truth. he wa...   Nov 22 2008, 04:12 PM
dosomethin888   Obama's color actually gave him an advantage.   Nov 22 2008, 03:07 PM
paperplane   I'm not arguing that with you, because the num...   Nov 22 2008, 03:18 PM
dosomethin888   QUOTE(paperplane @ Nov 22 2008, 01:18 PM)...   Nov 22 2008, 04:14 PM
brooklyneast05   oh yeah and they also have his birth announcement ...   Nov 22 2008, 04:21 PM
TheFranchise216   The truth is, none of this matters anymore. The bo...   Nov 22 2008, 04:24 PM
paperplane   ^Yeah, that's not actually true. If he were ac...   Nov 22 2008, 05:10 PM
TheFranchise216   QUOTE(paperplane @ Nov 22 2008, 05:10 PM)...   Nov 22 2008, 05:47 PM
brooklyneast05   RE: Obama   Nov 22 2008, 05:21 PM
paperplane   QUOTE(TheFranchise216 @ Nov 22 2008, 05:4...   Nov 22 2008, 06:39 PM
TheFranchise216   Very respectable answer.   Nov 22 2008, 07:05 PM
Cow-Moo   that's politics for ya. :/ and obama is half ...   Nov 23 2008, 02:51 AM
TheFranchise216   QUOTE(Cow-Moo @ Nov 23 2008, 02:51 A...   Nov 23 2008, 01:20 PM
brooklyneast05   how does color not have a role in the matter? i me...   Nov 23 2008, 01:23 PM
Jenni   yeah actually its in the qualifications to qualify...   Nov 23 2008, 01:38 PM
brooklyneast05   QUOTE(Jenni @ Nov 23 2008, 02:38 PM) yeah...   Nov 23 2008, 01:40 PM
YukkaPukka   QUOTE(Jenni @ Nov 23 2008, 01:38 PM) yeah...   Nov 23 2008, 01:43 PM
RCKstarh   QUOTEthat's politics for ya. :/ and obama is ...   Nov 23 2008, 02:59 PM
smoke   Someone may have already posted this, but I haven...   Nov 24 2008, 06:49 PM
dosomethin888   QUOTE(smoke @ Nov 24 2008, 04:49 PM) Some...   Nov 24 2008, 08:07 PM
Spencer   QUOTE(smoke @ Nov 24 2008, 03:49 PM) Some...   Nov 24 2008, 08:46 PM
paperplane   The video on that site is absurd...not because it...   Nov 24 2008, 08:29 PM
smoke   Nicki, I had my doubts about them being the best i...   Nov 24 2008, 10:09 PM
paperplane   Maybe you're not, but that site pretty much is...   Nov 24 2008, 10:37 PM
mipadi   Besides, smoke, you're clearly focusing on one...   Nov 25 2008, 10:56 AM
tyrocks00   i dont care about him being anything but president...   Nov 25 2008, 02:25 PM
NoSex   QUOTE(tyrocks00 @ Nov 25 2008, 01:25 PM) ...   Nov 25 2008, 03:25 PM
RCKstarh   ^i dont think the last 5+ posts were helping the t...   Nov 25 2008, 04:38 PM
NoSex   QUOTE(RCKstarh @ Nov 25 2008, 03:38 PM) ^...   Nov 25 2008, 04:40 PM
Y-A-K-A   It is not racist to question Obama's birthplac...   Dec 18 2008, 11:45 PM
Tung   Believe me. If Ron Paul or Ralph Nader did run, I ...   Dec 18 2008, 11:47 PM
mipadi   QUOTE(Tung @ Dec 18 2008, 11:47 PM) Belie...   Dec 19 2008, 04:44 PM
brooklyneast05   you could have voted nader   Dec 18 2008, 11:50 PM
Elba   If he had voted at all, lol.   Dec 19 2008, 12:00 AM
brooklyneast05   i just don't get how anyone can know if obama ...   Dec 19 2008, 12:11 AM
technicolour   Well, they sure knew it about Palin. ANYWAYS. Wh...   Dec 19 2008, 12:14 AM
brooklyneast05   this ancient topic isn't even a month old. but...   Dec 19 2008, 12:24 AM
technicolour   Oh. I just saw that in debate. My bad. The whole ...   Dec 19 2008, 12:27 AM


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