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Should The "N" word be banned from the English language?
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BamBamBoogie
post Nov 12 2008, 01:49 PM
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I think that everyone should THINK before posting. Thanks.
 
 
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post Nov 13 2008, 01:46 PM
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QUOTE(Joss-eh-lime @ Nov 12 2008, 05:56 PM) *
first, i dont think its possible to BAN a word.
second, i dont like the word nor do i use it, but it is what some people use to express a thought or feeling so who am i to tell them they can't say it.



QUOTE(Aberisk @ Nov 12 2008, 07:54 PM) *
the people who use the nword just look like idiots and the ones who dont use it are normal. If the nword gets "banned" then so should the f, s, etc words. I dont think it has the same impact as a derogatory term anymore because people who once fell victim to that word are using it like nothing? :]



QUOTE(coconutter @ Nov 12 2008, 08:02 PM) *
there is no word that can be "banned" words are ideas.

you can't take ideas from people, at the moment..






QUOTE(Tomates @ Nov 12 2008, 09:06 PM) *
First of all how do you ban a word, i mean if you say it whats going to happen, so what if it gets banned people will probably just say it anyways and besides are we going to hire vocab police to make sure we dont say it or get punished if we do? Thats just ridiculous.

Face it, people are going to say it either offensivly or jokinly.



QUOTE(Tomates @ Nov 12 2008, 09:08 PM) *
people are reading it, but there really isnt much to read of it except for everyones input. Afterall she posted by saying how people should think before saying it which really doesnt say much to me.



QUOTE(MolecularStudios @ Nov 12 2008, 09:14 PM) *
You can't ban a word.



If one of your quotes is here, it is because your comments are pointless simply because they have already been brought up before. If you didn't read, please read. And if you have read it then that shows a lack of reading comprehension skills on your behalf if you did claim to have read previous remarks but still made points that have already been addressed.





QUOTE(YukkaPukka @ Nov 12 2008, 09:02 PM) *
No matter what, you really can't stop someone from saying n****er. It shouldn't be removed from the English language, and the word doesn't always mean 'a black person'. I know someone, who is 100% NOT racist, and uses the word 'n****er' to describe a stupid person, no someone of any set race.


Also, you've been asked not to double/triple post several times. I think it might be best not to do that again :D


Your first paragraph to me seemed a bit ignorant, and I do not mean to be at all offensive. If you know the definition of ignorant you'll understand how I don't mean to offend you. But anyway, I say that because anyone can change the connotation of a word. However, that does not change the denotation of the word which may be offensive or mean something completely different from what you may have intended. For example, people say cool all the time. The denotation is slightly colder than warm (my guess), while the connotation in a statement 'she's cool' is different. This doesn't change the fact that cool still means slightly colder thant warm, and this may cause someone who doesn't know what your connotation of the word cool is to think that you are crazy for calling someone slightly colder than warm. The same thing for the "N" word or any other offensive racial term. I can call a ball a n****er or any other offensive term. This doesn't mean that the definition is ball now. That is just a personal connotation of the word, and therefore cannot be considered valid definition.

Also, I was unaware of what double posting was because I'm new to the forums. But, i talked to an staff member and everything's worked out. I know how to use multiple quotes. thumbsup.gif biggrin.gif thumbsup.gif

And for the record, I am NOT victimizing African-Americans. I am myself an black male who is completely non-racist. I believe that all offensive racial terms should be done away with to ensure comfortability of all people. I am also proud to say that I am a proud member of the Anti-Defamation League (ADL) which was actually started after the holocaust to prevent anti-semitism, racism, discrimination, etc. That is a reason why I am passionate about this topic.



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post Nov 13 2008, 01:51 PM
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QUOTE(BamBamBoogie @ Nov 13 2008, 01:46 PM) *
If one of your quotes is here, it is because your comments are pointless simply because they have already been brought up before. If you didn't read, please read. And if you have read it then that shows a lack of reading comprehension skills on your behalf if you did claim to have read previous remarks but still made points that have already been addressed.

They have probably been brought up before then for a reason stating that this whole topic is just ridiculous. What is there to f*cking read? All the title says is "should the N word be banned" and you just added "people should think before they talk" We have simply just stated our opinion on this. Theres not much to your post to agree about at all. I mean what do you expect? did you expect that you would have people saying "yeah i agree! lets riot about it and get our word out!!!" Atleast post a reason or something, your topic and replies are so incredibly petty that it makes me want to hurt a small child.
 
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QUOTE(Tomates @ Nov 13 2008, 01:51 PM) *
They have probably been brought up before then for a reason stating that this whole topic is just ridiculous. What is there to f*cking read? All the title says is "should the N word be banned" and you just added "people should think before they talk" We have simply just stated our opinion on this. Theres not much to your post to agree about at all. I mean what do you expect? did you expect that you would have people saying "yeah i agree! lets riot about it and get our word out!!!" Atleast post a reason or something, your topic and replies are so incredibly petty that it makes me want to hurt a small child.



I believe you are referring to my first post, and that is not what I am talking about. I meant read the other comments that have been made because they have already been addressed. whistling.gif rolleyes.gif blink.gif





QUOTE(brooklyneast05 @ Nov 13 2008, 01:51 PM) *
thing is, it's just pointless is what everyone is getting at. it doesn't change anything and it isn't going to make people stop saying it. you can't stop people from saying what they want to say, and i don't think anyone should try in the first place.

i wasn't raised in a household that embraced that word. i wasn't ever allowed to say any variation of it. i don't say it hardly ever, if ever. i don't call my friends that, ect. i personally think it is ridiculous...but i don't care if other people want to say it. that's their choice and i don't think they need to be censored. at the end of the day it can't be erased, or taken back, or stopped so i don't see any need in leading a crusade against a word that's not going to matter. there are way better things to fight for than the removal of a word from the dictionary.


i know people see is as some kind of symbolic gesture or something to remove it but it's not practical at all and doesn't make sense. i've been called a n****er numerous times and it would have the same effect on me whether or not it's considered a word or not...it'll still mean the same thing and people will still call me that regardless of if it's in the dictionary.


I think you have made a great point. However, it is that exact mentality that its not important enough to fight for, that leads fuels inequal rights. For example, did you know that for years after Dr. King's "I have a dream" speech, there was no memorial or plaque to indicate where he stood while giving that speech? Many thought "so what? no big deal." It took a group of school kids to fight for some type of acknowledgement. Either way the speech happened, plaque or not. But it still means something to have a recognition of it. Another example is at George Washington's house. For years there was not even a leaf to honor the burial site of many slaves who weren't even all african-american. Some thought "so what? big deal." Well someone who was passionate about it worked hard to have a memorial for the burial site of a number of people who died, and fyi, there is still not an exact amount of bodies found there, although 100 is the number normally used.

My point is, despite how big or small something is, if you believe something needs to be changed, you should work 5x as hard to make that change. Or at least support efforts for change, despite what differing opinions may say.
 

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BamBamBoogie   Should The "N" word be banned from the English language?   Nov 12 2008, 01:49 PM
kryogenix   n*gga please.   Nov 12 2008, 01:59 PM
RCKstarh   i think it's just a word... even african ameri...   Nov 12 2008, 03:32 PM
brooklyneast05   no it should not be banned. we don't ban other...   Nov 12 2008, 04:07 PM
AyeVickaye   QUOTE(brooklyneast05 @ Nov 12 2008, 01:07...   Nov 12 2008, 09:04 PM
BamBamBoogie   QUOTE(RCKstarh @ Nov 12 2008, 03:32 PM) i...   Nov 12 2008, 04:11 PM
only-tuesdays   Your argument is reaching a bit far. There is a hu...   Nov 12 2008, 04:15 PM
Tung   Ever heard of freedom of speech?   Nov 12 2008, 04:18 PM
Saikou   "I disagree with what you say, but i defend t...   Nov 12 2008, 04:28 PM
BamBamBoogie   Everyone continues to say "its just a word....   Nov 12 2008, 04:34 PM
brooklyneast05   QUOTE(BamBamBoogie @ Nov 12 2008, 05:34 P...   Nov 12 2008, 04:37 PM
Tung   Nobody is saying it's okay to use an offensive...   Nov 12 2008, 04:36 PM
paperplane   You cannot remove a word from the English language...   Nov 12 2008, 04:41 PM
BamBamBoogie   I don't think everyone is paying attention. Of...   Nov 12 2008, 04:51 PM
only-tuesdays   QUOTE(BamBamBoogie @ Nov 12 2008, 01:51 P...   Nov 12 2008, 05:08 PM
Hedonism   QUOTE(BamBamBoogie @ Nov 12 2008, 04:51 P...   Nov 13 2008, 09:02 PM
Saikou   oh,now i understand a little better what you were ...   Nov 12 2008, 04:59 PM
heartquasm   Just because people don't get your point, does...   Nov 12 2008, 05:04 PM
paperplane   QUOTE(BamBamBoogie @ Nov 12 2008, 04:51 P...   Nov 12 2008, 05:05 PM
BamBamBoogie   Hmm... well it seems as though Im not proving my ...   Nov 12 2008, 05:19 PM
paperplane   But taking down a physical object is completely di...   Nov 12 2008, 05:26 PM
BamBamBoogie   QUOTE(paperplane @ Nov 12 2008, 05:26 PM)...   Nov 12 2008, 05:35 PM
paperplane   QUOTE(BamBamBoogie @ Nov 12 2008, 05:35 P...   Nov 12 2008, 06:05 PM
dosomethin888   nope. its a word and we have freedom to say it.   Nov 12 2008, 05:47 PM
BamBamBoogie   QUOTE(dosomethin888 @ Nov 12 2008, 05:47 ...   Nov 12 2008, 05:57 PM
dosomethin888   QUOTE(BamBamBoogie @ Nov 12 2008, 03:57 P...   Nov 12 2008, 11:46 PM
Joss-eh-lime   first, i dont think its possible to BAN a word. se...   Nov 12 2008, 05:56 PM
mipadi   This sounds a lot like the "Newspeak" de...   Nov 12 2008, 06:22 PM
Aberisk   the people who use the nword just look like idiots...   Nov 12 2008, 07:54 PM
coconutter   there is no word that can be "banned" wo...   Nov 12 2008, 08:02 PM
Joss-eh-lime   aberisk: its not true that the people currently us...   Nov 12 2008, 08:03 PM
coconutter   QUOTE(Joss-eh-lime @ Nov 12 2008, 1...   Nov 12 2008, 08:19 PM
Joss-eh-lime   QUOTE(coconutter @ Nov 12 2008, 05:19 PM)...   Nov 12 2008, 09:14 PM
YukkaPukka   No matter what, you really can't stop someone ...   Nov 12 2008, 09:02 PM
Tomates   First of all how do you ban a word, i mean if you ...   Nov 12 2008, 09:06 PM
paperplane   Do try reading the thread, people. It's only o...   Nov 12 2008, 09:07 PM
Tomates   people are reading it, but there really isnt much ...   Nov 12 2008, 09:08 PM
MolecularStudios   You can't ban a word.   Nov 12 2008, 09:14 PM
YukkaPukka   QUOTE(MolecularStudios @ Nov 12 2008, 09...   Nov 12 2008, 09:29 PM
kryogenix   QUOTE(MolecularStudios @ Nov 12 2008, 08...   Nov 12 2008, 09:48 PM
fameONE   @ this topic. Please stop victimizing Black peopl...   Nov 12 2008, 11:57 PM
BanDaSnowman   QUOTE(fameONE @ Nov 13 2008, 12:57 AM) @...   Nov 13 2008, 12:41 AM
BamBamBoogie   QUOTE(Joss-eh-lime @ Nov 12 2008, 0...   Nov 13 2008, 01:46 PM
Tomates   QUOTE(BamBamBoogie @ Nov 13 2008, 01:46 P...   Nov 13 2008, 01:51 PM
BamBamBoogie   QUOTE(Tomates @ Nov 13 2008, 01:51 PM) Th...   Nov 13 2008, 02:05 PM
brooklyneast05   QUOTEI think you have made a great point. However,...   Nov 13 2008, 03:08 PM
BamBamBoogie   QUOTE(brooklyneast05 @ Nov 13 2008, 03:08...   Nov 13 2008, 04:00 PM
coconutter   QUOTE(BamBamBoogie @ Nov 13 2008, 06:00 P...   Nov 13 2008, 04:24 PM
BamBamBoogie   QUOTE(coconutter @ Nov 13 2008, 04:24 PM)...   Nov 13 2008, 04:44 PM
Tomates   QUOTE(BamBamBoogie @ Nov 13 2008, 04:44 P...   Nov 14 2008, 01:49 PM
fameONE   QUOTE(Tomates @ Nov 14 2008, 12:49 PM) So...   Nov 14 2008, 04:21 PM
coconutter   QUOTE(BamBamBoogie @ Nov 13 2008, 06:44 P...   Nov 14 2008, 05:09 PM
Tomates   QUOTE(BamBamBoogie @ Nov 13 2008, 02:05 P...   Nov 13 2008, 06:45 PM
Joss-eh-lime   QUOTE(BamBamBoogie @ Nov 13 2008, 10:46 A...   Nov 13 2008, 05:28 PM
brooklyneast05   thing is, it's just pointless is what everyone...   Nov 13 2008, 01:56 PM
FreshYetDead   n****er means shiftless and lazy. Its actually not...   Nov 13 2008, 05:25 PM
BamBamBoogie   QUOTE(Joss-eh-lime @ Nov 13 2008, 0...   Nov 13 2008, 05:36 PM
FreshYetDead   QUOTE(BamBamBoogie @ Nov 13 2008, 07:36 P...   Nov 13 2008, 05:41 PM
Joss-eh-lime   hey news flash ain't is in the dictionary. f*c...   Nov 13 2008, 11:56 PM
MissUchiha   definetly freedom of speech and some may say this ...   Nov 14 2008, 01:54 PM
karmakiller   If you were to ban the "n" word, you wou...   Nov 14 2008, 05:32 PM
applejaxkz   I hate when people use the word "n****er....   Nov 14 2008, 06:53 PM
coconutter   huh? ^   Nov 14 2008, 09:18 PM
BanDaSnowman   I don't see why they should ban it anyway. It ...   Nov 14 2008, 09:54 PM
BamBamBoogie   Freedom of speech won't be affected by removin...   Nov 14 2008, 10:32 PM
only-tuesdays   QUOTE(BamBamBoogie @ Nov 14 2008, 07:32 P...   Nov 15 2008, 02:10 AM
BamBamBoogie   QUOTE(only-tuesdays @ Nov 15 2008, 02...   Nov 15 2008, 02:40 PM
Tomates   QUOTE(BamBamBoogie @ Nov 14 2008, 10:32 P...   Nov 15 2008, 10:02 PM
BamBamBoogie   QUOTE(Tomates @ Nov 15 2008, 10:02 PM) Th...   Nov 15 2008, 10:08 PM
Tomates   QUOTE(BamBamBoogie @ Nov 15 2008, 10:08 P...   Nov 15 2008, 10:13 PM
BamBamBoogie   QUOTE(Tomates @ Nov 15 2008, 10:13 PM) Ye...   Nov 15 2008, 10:18 PM
Tomates   QUOTE(BamBamBoogie @ Nov 15 2008, 10:18 P...   Nov 15 2008, 10:19 PM
BamBamBoogie   QUOTE(Tomates @ Nov 15 2008, 10:19 PM) I ...   Nov 15 2008, 10:27 PM
Hedonism   QUOTE(BamBamBoogie @ Nov 15 2008, 10:27 P...   Nov 15 2008, 10:45 PM
Tomates   QUOTE(BamBamBoogie @ Nov 15 2008, 10:27 P...   Nov 15 2008, 11:02 PM
karmakiller   lol, what? You want to go through all the trouble ...   Nov 14 2008, 10:44 PM
BamBamBoogie   QUOTE(karmakiller @ Nov 14 2008, 10:44 PM...   Nov 14 2008, 10:50 PM
RCKstarh   sad that this is the way they define the word ...   Nov 14 2008, 11:18 PM
kryogenix   nigger nigger nigger nigger nigger nigger nigger n...   Nov 15 2008, 01:44 AM
BamBamBoogie   QUOTE(kryogenix @ Nov 15 2008, 01:44 AM) ...   Nov 15 2008, 02:41 PM
brooklyneast05   no   Nov 15 2008, 02:46 PM
kryogenix   QUOTE(BamBamBoogie @ Nov 15 2008, 01:41 P...   Nov 15 2008, 09:45 PM
Tung   Wow, just read the last two pages. This is stupid.   Nov 15 2008, 10:36 PM
BamBamBoogie   QUOTE(Tung @ Nov 15 2008, 10:36 PM) Wow, ...   Nov 15 2008, 10:47 PM
BamBamBoogie   I quit.   Nov 15 2008, 11:05 PM
Tomates   QUOTE(BamBamBoogie @ Nov 15 2008, 11:05 P...   Nov 15 2008, 11:06 PM
BamBamBoogie   Agree to disagree?   Nov 15 2008, 11:06 PM
Tomates   Agree to disagree with what? Your lack of knowledg...   Nov 15 2008, 11:08 PM
BamBamBoogie   QUOTE(Tomates @ Nov 15 2008, 11:08 PM) Ag...   Nov 15 2008, 11:11 PM
Tomates   QUOTE(BamBamBoogie @ Nov 15 2008, 11:11 P...   Nov 15 2008, 11:13 PM
BamBamBoogie   QUOTE(Tomates @ Nov 15 2008, 11:13 PM) 1....   Nov 15 2008, 11:16 PM
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