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 Oct 29 2008, 09:15 PM
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Surprised this never got mentioned here. CA's Prop 8, FL's amendment 2 and Arizona's prop 102, and the whole defining gay marriage. With election coming up pretty soon, Prop 8 has been a big issue.
The argument is that Prop 8, amendment 2 and prop 102 will define that marriage between a man and a woman will be the only legal kind of marriage in California for prop 8, Florida for amendment 2, and Arizona with prop 102. Some people argue that it has nothing to do with gay rights, or about gays in general yet mention that if it doesn't pass parental rights, and religious freedom gets taken away. Others mention that it does (take away gay rights), If the law passes Same sex couples will not be able to 1. Marry the person they love. 2. Those who are already married will lose the rights that come with it. There is also the argument that Marriage is about love regardless of gender (Love is Blind). yet others strongly believe that marriage is a religious, spiritual union between a man and a women. To start a discussion here are several questions 1. what do you feel will happen if these laws passes and soon spreads to other states? 2. What do you feel marriage is, and should the idea of same sex marriage be allowed? 3. What do you think will happen to the children whose parents happen to be both male or female, If these laws passes what do you think will happen to the children? |
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Nov 3 2008, 01:14 AM
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Two can keep a secret if one of them is dead. Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 2,682 Joined: Jun 2005 Member No: 156,187 |
QUOTE(dosomethin888 @ Nov 3 2008, 01:08 AM)  Ya.... but it might happen again. People are bold. You think something like this will only happen once? Maybe not the exact thing, but people are still going to try to push their lifestyle on others. On children. sure its likely to happen again, but a parent has a say in it. If they feel they don't want their child to attend then they don't have to sign and let their kid miss the day. Its as simple as that. QUOTE(only-tuesdays @ Nov 3 2008, 01:09 AM) But it's OK for you to push your lifestyle on everyone else including children? amen to that |
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Blaqheartedstar CA's Prop 8, FL's amendment 2 and Arizona's prop 102/ Defining marriage Oct 29 2008, 09:15 PM
Blaqheartedstar ^ great find. The issue has been out for some time... Oct 29 2008, 09:46 PM amplifyy I say no on CA's Prop 8.
I believe that people... Oct 29 2008, 09:52 PM Blaqheartedstar People really need to look up the new laws in the ... Oct 29 2008, 10:09 PM Joss-eh-lime yes on 8.
i believe in heterosexual couples being... Oct 29 2008, 11:40 PM
coconutter QUOTE(Joss-eh-lime @ Oct 30 2008, 1... Oct 30 2008, 04:42 PM Blaqheartedstar Voting yes means that you approve of marriage bein... Oct 30 2008, 01:57 AM cakedout mar⋅riage [mar-ij] Show IPA ... Oct 30 2008, 02:45 AM Blaqheartedstar QUOTEMarriage
Marriage or wedlock is an interperso... Oct 30 2008, 06:27 AM cakedout QUOTE(Blaqheartedstar @ Oct 30 2008, 04:2... Nov 1 2008, 05:39 PM Blaqheartedstar ^ good point.
One guys argues that some how if pr... Oct 30 2008, 10:31 PM rjohnson1991 QUOTE(Blaqheartedstar @ Oct 30 2008, 10:3... Nov 1 2008, 11:34 PM Aberisk In my opinion I believe marriage started out as a ... Oct 30 2008, 10:58 PM only-tuesdays QUOTE(Aberisk @ Oct 30 2008, 08:58 PM) In... Oct 31 2008, 01:56 PM coconutter The government should be involved in marriage beca... Oct 31 2008, 12:16 PM brooklyneast05 ^if you don't see a place for government in ma... Oct 31 2008, 02:11 PM Aberisk QUOTE(brooklyneast05 @ Oct 31 2008, 02:11... Oct 31 2008, 05:17 PM coconutter QUOTE(brooklyneast05 @ Oct 31 2008, 03:11... Oct 31 2008, 08:16 PM only-tuesdays I understand the legalities of marriage. But I don... Oct 31 2008, 02:27 PM kryogenix I say who the f**k cares what gay people do, so lo... Oct 31 2008, 02:39 PM Joss-eh-lime Does my public school teach me about the creation ... Oct 31 2008, 05:41 PM Reidar QUOTE(Joss-eh-lime @ Oct 31 2008, 0... Oct 31 2008, 08:40 PM Blaqheartedstar QUOTE(Joss-eh-lime @ Oct 31 2008, 0... Nov 1 2008, 11:37 PM only-tuesdays Because unfortunately this is not a country where ... Oct 31 2008, 06:22 PM AyeVickaye Damns the gov. should let people marry who they wa... Oct 31 2008, 06:30 PM fameONE QUOTE(Joss-eh-lime @ Oct 31 2008, 0... Nov 1 2008, 02:58 AM kryogenix José Limo.
Imo, to Christians, the Bible should n... Nov 1 2008, 08:54 AM Joss-eh-lime so what if my beliefs contratict yours? i can stil... Nov 1 2008, 02:47 PM coconutter QUOTE(Joss-eh-lime @ Nov 1 2008, 03... Nov 1 2008, 07:17 PM brooklyneast05 ^no it's becuase you don't give any real r... Nov 1 2008, 03:13 PM Joss-eh-lime QUOTE(brooklyneast05 @ Nov 1 2008, 01:13 ... Nov 2 2008, 12:39 AM only-tuesdays Using your personal beliefs isn't an argument ... Nov 1 2008, 05:07 PM Reidar As anti-theistic as I am, Joss-eh-lime didn't ... Nov 1 2008, 08:37 PM dosomethin888 This is a tricky one for me. Would I vote for Prop... Nov 1 2008, 10:35 PM brooklyneast05 QUOTE(dosomethin888 @ Nov 1 2008, 10:35 P... Nov 1 2008, 11:14 PM Reidar There is no evidence to the favor of Biblical even... Nov 1 2008, 10:51 PM dosomethin888 QUOTE(Reidar @ Nov 1 2008, 08:51 PM) Ther... Nov 1 2008, 11:09 PM only-tuesdays QUOTE(dosomethin888 @ Nov 1 2008, 09:09 P... Nov 1 2008, 11:15 PM dosomethin888 QUOTE(only-tuesdays @ Nov 1 2008, 09... Nov 1 2008, 11:25 PM brooklyneast05 QUOTE(dosomethin888 @ Nov 1 2008, 11:25 P... Nov 1 2008, 11:28 PM Blaqheartedstar QUOTE(cakedout @ Nov 1 2008, 06:39 PM) th... Nov 1 2008, 11:29 PM only-tuesdays QUOTE(dosomethin888 @ Nov 1 2008, 08:35 P... Nov 1 2008, 11:37 PM dosomethin888 QUOTE(only-tuesdays @ Nov 1 2008, 09... Nov 1 2008, 11:46 PM only-tuesdays ^Actually there has been some research that sugges... Nov 2 2008, 12:55 AM Joss-eh-lime ^oh rly? well i'll wait around untill they PRO... Nov 2 2008, 01:00 AM brooklyneast05 QUOTE(Joss-eh-lime @ Nov 2 2008, 01... Nov 2 2008, 01:06 AM only-tuesdays QUOTE(Joss-eh-lime @ Nov 1 2008, 11... Nov 2 2008, 01:12 AM Joss-eh-lime mmk JC, cuz it was really that funny...
of cours... Nov 2 2008, 01:18 AM Blaqheartedstar ditto
QUOTE(Joss-eh-lime @ Nov 2 20... Nov 2 2008, 03:08 AM brooklyneast05 yeah just because something is in a text book does... Nov 2 2008, 01:26 AM Joss-eh-lime ^this is what i had said:
QUOTEand another thing i... Nov 2 2008, 07:38 PM Blaqheartedstar I used them as a example, being gay is as NATURAL ... Nov 2 2008, 08:29 PM paperplane QUOTE(Joss-eh-lime @ Oct 31 2008, 0... Nov 2 2008, 08:33 PM Blaqheartedstar QUOTE(paperplane @ Nov 2 2008, 08:33 PM) ... Nov 2 2008, 08:44 PM Reidar QUOTE(Blaqheartedstar @ Nov 2 2008, 08:44... Nov 2 2008, 09:10 PM Joss-eh-lime QUOTE(paperplane @ Nov 2 2008, 05:33 PM) ... Nov 3 2008, 12:21 AM brooklyneast05 prob because quoting from the old testament will s... Nov 2 2008, 08:46 PM paperplane QUOTE(article)Parents can excuse their child from ... Nov 2 2008, 09:15 PM Reidar Not really, because the original premise was Joss-... Nov 2 2008, 09:41 PM paperplane Because by not providing a link, or ever directly ... Nov 2 2008, 10:12 PM Reidar QUOTE(paperplane @ Nov 2 2008, 10:12 PM) ... Nov 3 2008, 12:49 AM paperplane QUOTE(Reidar @ Nov 3 2008, 12:49 AM) Abse... Nov 3 2008, 01:02 AM dosomethin888 QUOTE(paperplane @ Nov 2 2008, 11:02 PM) ... Nov 3 2008, 01:03 AM Blaqheartedstar QUOTE(dosomethin888 @ Nov 3 2008, 01:03 A... Nov 3 2008, 01:06 AM dosomethin888 QUOTE(Blaqheartedstar @ Nov 2 2008, 11:06... Nov 3 2008, 01:08 AM dosomethin888 It doesnt matter if a parent can "opt out... Nov 2 2008, 10:12 PM paperplane Google a seemingly baseless offhand comment? Yeah.... Nov 2 2008, 10:54 PM dosomethin888 QUOTE(paperplane @ Nov 2 2008, 08:54 PM) ... Nov 2 2008, 11:12 PM Blaqheartedstar off topic but check this out
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