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[coconutter]

Why do men get to appear topless on TV, but women don't? I really don't think that is fair. Both men and women have nipples, so aren't they equally "racy"? Just because women have more fatty tissues in their chest area, as some men shown on TV do also, does that mean it's worse to view?

I understand, the standard for women is to remain covered, not exactly true today, but in most civilizations it's considered vulgar for a woman to display her boobs in public. Why though? Why is it worse for women to do that when I see men walk around shirtless all the time. If given the chance, legally, I'd do it too. We're not liberal enough to allow the laws to be changed to that, but I really wanted to see Heather McDonald's boobs on Chelsea Lately! With a table full of men also topless, it's really unfair to just block out boobs just because they belong to females! All human nipples are the same, whether they have a purpose or not!

[dosomethin888]

Neither actually, Im just saying as time goes by, were seeing more sex, drugs, alcohol, foul language and nudity on the television and in movies and were not monitering what our kids see.

The human body is beautiful, nothing immoral about it, but it is sacred, not something that should be shown to everyone, especially not the whole world on the TV. Its intended to be seen by your spouse, when your married. Not passed around.

[coconutter]

Neither actually, Im just saying as time goes by, were seeing more sex, drugs, alcohol, foul language and nudity on the television and in movies and were not monitering what our kids see.

The human body is beautiful, nothing immoral about it, but it is sacred, not something that should be shown to everyone, especially not the whole world on the TV. Its intended to be seen by your spouse, when your married. Not passed around.

Biased opinion much?

I loved how you added in "when you're married". Why do people think marriage somehow makes things better. It doesn't. Marriage is NOTHING, nothing at all. Just some legal crap, and it should be treated as so. Idiots.

and by the way, morals should apply to every gender.

The point is, the male body isn't sacred, it is being passed around. Why can't female bodies be passed around like they're unsacred? We're all human beings, and our bodies are just as sacred as that of a cat. Why can't we all just accept each other as equal?

[dosomethin888]

Biased opinion much?

I loved how you added in "when you're married". Why do people think marriage somehow makes things better. It doesn't. Marriage is NOTHING, nothing at all. Just some legal crap, and it should be treated as so. Idiots.

and by the way, morals should apply to every gender.

The point is, the male body isn't sacred, it is being passed around. Why can't female bodies be passed around like they're unsacred? We're all human beings, and our bodies are just as sacred as that of a cat. Why can't we all just accept each other as equal?

Thats my opinion. Dont call me a prude. Dont call me a moron. Dont call me an idiot. Name calling is immature. How about you respect my opinion and I'll respect yours, ya?

[coconutter]

Thats my opinion. Dont call me a prude. Dont call me a moron. Dont call me an idiot. Name calling is immature. How about you respect my opinion and I'll respect yours, ya?

I didn't call you an idiot, nor did I call you a moron, I was speaking about the general population and their misconceptions of marriage (and general idiocy of the government), hence IDIOTS, not idiot.

I just thought your opinion was biased by some modern conservatism and the corruption of some churches. Seeing a body until marriage really shouldn't have anything to do with what they show on TV, that was just an opinionated thing you added in there which I considered bias, and well, on my terms it was.

Also, about the other countries. Our country is considered to be the more liberal when it comes to freedom of citizens, yet females aren't allowed to freely walked around topless, while men are? It doesn't make sense, it really doesn't. That's not equality, it's only a majority of the people's morals (mostly based on religion) deciding how women could live. Isn't that similar to women in other countries who can't leave the house, or have property, and divorce women where as men can? It's totally unfair, the laws should have nothing to do with the sometimes sexist views of churches.

[Reidar]

Isn't that similar to women in other countries who can't leave the house, or have property, and divorce women where as men can?

Not even close. Under the backwater regime where I'm from, women are not permitted to be in the company of a man who is not her husband or a male relative, or allowed to engage in sports in which they may be seen by men, nevermind being banned from pursuing higher education in 91 of 169 fields of study. Somehow, I think that's on a different level than having to wear a flimsy top.

This kind of reminds me of my Russian friend who visited Moscow a few weeks ago. "The entire country is ****ed up," he'd say in relaying the experience to others. According to him, people would often reply, "Oh, like here," and he would just shake his head in disbelief and say, "Uh, no. Not like here, at all. Have you ever even lived outside the U.S.?"

[coconutter]

Not even close. Under the backwater regime where I'm from, women are not permitted to be in the company of a man who is not her husband or a male relative, or allowed to engage in sports in which they may be seen by men, nevermind being banned from pursuing higher education in 91 of 169 fields of study. Somehow, I think that's on a different level than having to wear a flimsy top.

This kind of reminds me of my Russian friend who visited Moscow a few weeks ago. "The entire country is ****ed up," he'd say in relaying the experience to others. According to him, people would often reply, "Oh, like here," and he would just shake his head in disbelief and say, "Uh, no. Not like here, at all. Have you ever even lived outside the U.S.?"

No doubt women in other countries don't have near as many rights as we do, that's evident. I was just comparing the rights us women don't have, to the rights that other women do not have in other countries, even if we do have the rights they don't have, it's still a fair comparison. Not on the level of harshness, but the similarity is there.

[Reidar]

I was just comparing the rights us women don't have, to the rights that other women do not have in other countries, even if we do have the rights they don't have, it's still a fair comparison.

It's not analogous. A woman's quality of living and her lifelong opportunities aren't impugned by such minor censorship, as inconsistent as the logic behind it may be. In the Middle East, female-specific statutes explicitly characterize men as the dominant gender by limiting societal opportunities. The fact that there even exist nudist camps in America offers relief for more secular-minded people; there is no parallel under the alternative, for women citizens of Iran can't even leave the country without a male supervisor.