CA's Prop 8, FL's amendment 2 and Arizona's prop 102/ Defining marriage, Surprised this never got mentioned here. Rating Options

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Surprised this never got mentioned here. CA's Prop 8, FL's amendment 2 and Arizona's prop 102, and the whole defining gay marriage. With election coming up pretty soon, Prop 8 has been a big issue.

The argument is that Prop 8, amendment 2 and prop 102 will define that marriage between a man and a woman will be the only legal kind of marriage in California for prop 8, Florida for amendment 2, and Arizona with prop 102.

Some people argue that it has nothing to do with gay rights, or about gays in general
yet mention that if it doesn't pass parental rights, and religious freedom gets taken away.

Others mention that it does (take away gay rights), If the law passes Same sex couples will not be able to
1. Marry the person they love.
2. Those who are already married will lose the rights that come with it.


There is also the argument that Marriage is about love regardless of gender (Love is Blind).
yet others strongly believe that marriage is a religious, spiritual union between a man and a women.

To start a discussion here are several questions
1. what do you feel will happen if these laws passes and soon spreads to other states?
2. What do you feel marriage is, and should the idea of same sex marriage be allowed?
3. What do you think will happen to the children whose parents happen to be both male or female, If these laws passes what do you think will happen to the children?

[only-tuesdays]

Using your personal beliefs isn't an argument at all. You can be as conservative as you want, you can use the Bible as the basis of your argument. If you provide some scripture, even better. But you have to understand, that you can't possibly force your personal religion on everyone else. Just because you believe it doesn't mean everyone else should be bound by it. Everyone's interpretation of the Bible tends to be different.

As far as the religious beliefs are concerned here are the quotes usually used against homosexuality.

-- Leviticus 18:22: "You shall not lie with a male as with a woman. It is an abomination" (NKJV). Leviticus 20:13: "If a man lies with a male as he lies with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination. They shall surely be put to death. Their blood shall be upon them."

Now, I was taught that while the Old Testament is an important aspect of the Bible, we are not bound by it's law. This was before Christ died on the cross for our sins. When Christ sacrificed himself, he put us back on level with God. We no longer need to sacrifice an animal to atone for our sins. At the same time, every sin is the same amount of sin. You are no better for lying than someone who committed murder. Everyone is a sinner, and everyone's sin is the same. The worst thing is when Christians forget that. No one here on earth is in the position to judge another person's sin. The only being who is in that position is God himself.

Of course, none of that matters unless you believe it. ;-)