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Transitioning Into HipHop, 10 Albums to Consider
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post Oct 22 2008, 04:04 AM
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Based on a conversation I was having with a friend of mine the other day, a lot of people don't give hiphop a chance because they simply just don't know any better. I could go on this rant about the radio this and the radio that but beating a dead horse gets old (besides, not all radio rap is horrendous).

In a nutshell, I sat in the back of humvee in Baghdad contemplating how I could make a diverse list of albums that would appeal to potential fans with varying tastes. Below is the end result.

If you're having problems seeing past the obvious (why awhy the entire typical backpacker, conscious, quasi-political, lyrical free-for-all with soulful beats that I generally prefer), then just ask and I'll be sure to drop knowledge on, and provide an explanation for, any album here.

**in no particular order**

1.
Nujabes - Modal Soul (2006)

2.
Eminem - The Slim Shady LP (1999)

3.
FELT 2(Murs and Slug [of Atmosphere]) - A Tribute to Lisa Bonet

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The Fugees (Refugee Camp) - The Score (1996)

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Lupe Fiasco - Food & Liquor (2006)

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Outkast - Southernplayasticadillacmuzik (1994)

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Pete Rock & C.L. Smooth - The Mecca and the Soul Brother (1992)

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Scarface - The Fix (2002)

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Timbaland - Timabland Presents: Shock Value (2007)

10.
Busta Rhymes - When Disaster Strikes (1997)

It was hard enough to sort through 14,000 songs and even harder to come up with reasonable justifications for each album, but there it is. Each album offers something different. From A Side to B Side, complete listens of each LP made it clear that, depending on which genre you generally prefer, there is something for everyone. cooly.gif
 
 
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post Oct 31 2008, 02:43 PM
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Exactly. You need to already have an understanding of Tech's stance on our society before you listen to his music, or else, well, or else feelings might get hurt.


mhhh touche, touche. i remember the first time i heard immortal....haha. not exactly love at first sight. i had to go back and listen later on. point of no return is one of my faves though.

talib? wu tang? sorry im just throwing things at you. i like what you have to say. _smile.gif
 
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post Nov 1 2008, 01:38 AM
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QUOTE(so0o_contagious @ Oct 31 2008, 01:43 PM) *
mhhh touche, touche. i remember the first time i heard immortal....haha. not exactly love at first sight. i had to go back and listen later on. point of no return is one of my faves though.

talib? wu tang? sorry im just throwing things at you. i like what you have to say. _smile.gif

Talib Kweli is gifted. I personally didn't like 'Quality' or 'The Beautiful Struggle' because it sounded like he was forcing it too much. He's not an emcee the gets caught up in 'swagger-rap' but he certainly has enough swagger to go around while keeping in Brooklyn and giving food for thought. 'Ear Drum' is a thorough album, from both a production and lyrical standpoint. It's going to be hard to ever top 'BlackStar' (Mos Def, holla!) and Reflection Eternal (Hi-Tek's production blends well with Talib's flow). Again, for a new-comer to HipHop, particularly if you're not Black, TK might go over people's heads. I don't like playing the race card, but it's true. He's a very pro-Black musician and proud of it.

Wu-Tang Clan ain't nuttin' to f-ck wit'!!!

I don't even know where to start with the infamous Wu. Not to discredit the Wu at all, but has anyone ever noticed that they have a ton of material (collectively) that is just a display of lyricism and punchlines that doesn't go anywhere? Take the track 'Re-United' from 'Wu-Tang Forever.' Ill beat, ill rhymes and verse placement is on point (expect nothing less from The Rza), but the song is all over the place. No one is really on the same page and it's still straight fire.

On the flipside, you have songs like 'Triumph.' Damn, son. Just... damn. Every single emcee spits a verse about how they are going to triumph, how they will triumph, or how they already have. I'll always be a fan of the Wu and the solo projects they have spawned because my knowledge and interest in hiphop as a kid revolved around The Wu and it's affiliates. Raekwon, Method Man, The RZA, The GZA, Ghostface Killah, ODB, Inspectah Deck and even Cappadonna have all had solo success (although some more successful than others).

(**sidenote: I hate how Method Man's been overlooked as emcee throughout his career)

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The infamous by mobb deep is my favorite rap album. Tends to be one dimensional but who cares every track is good. Even drink away the pain (which some people say is the weakest track). Prodigy fell off hard though. Hnic 2 and return of the mac are pretty good though. I would like a new mobb deep album minus gunit + alchemist. Thank you.


There is just something about Mobb Deep that never really sat right with me. Not to take anything away from them in their place in hiphop history, I've never really been a fan aside from diggin' a few tracks.

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Hip Hop is poetry of the streets :D


HipHop is poetry.

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not to rain on anyone's parade , but am i the only one who doesn't necessarily consider immortal tech to be "talented" in a rhyming sense? i mean yeah he's a pretty amazing thinker, and interesting to listen to for that reason but i wouldn't call his music "good music". it's usually pretty badly produced imo and he doesn't have much of a flow at all. it's more like reading an essay to a beat sometimes.


not saying i'm not a fan, i am. i wouldn't ever in a million years present that to a new comer though. that's too much meat to chew on, listening to his music is more work than almost anything i've ever listened to.


Co-sign. In terms of delivery and structured verses, Tech sounds like he's trying to force the non-chalant, run-on, flow (see: MF Doom), with the complexity of Gift of Gab's (Blackalicious) wordplay. It doesn't work. He's found his own niche in the game just by being an angry extremist.

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Canibus. you need a dictionary to understand what he says.

Canibus is the rapper that never made it, but held it down in 2nd Round KO.

Oh, that reminds me...

The award for the legendary emcee falling off the most, goes to....

LL COOL J. mellow.gif
 

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fameONE   Transitioning Into HipHop   Oct 22 2008, 04:04 AM
brooklyneast05   no college drop out no low end theory no com...   Oct 22 2008, 06:50 AM
fameONE   Shock Value is a necessary album because of its di...   Oct 22 2008, 02:58 PM
brooklyneast05   QUOTE(fameONE @ Oct 22 2008, 02:58 PM) My...   Oct 22 2008, 03:26 PM
superstitious   Believe it or not, I have the Fugees and Busta Rhy...   Oct 22 2008, 03:15 PM
fameONE   QUOTE(superstitious @ Oct 22 2008, 02:15 ...   Oct 22 2008, 11:59 PM
doughnut   oh i've always liked eminem   Oct 23 2008, 12:24 AM
ojairus   oh how i love nujabes how do you pronounce it thou...   Oct 23 2008, 12:42 AM
brooklyneast05   i want lauryn hill to be my wife. it's too bad...   Oct 23 2008, 06:32 AM
kryogenix   I think the reason is partially a racial bias, but...   Oct 23 2008, 10:44 AM
fameONE   QUOTE(kryogenix @ Oct 23 2008, 09:44 AM) ...   Oct 24 2008, 01:32 AM
kryogenix   Hey hey, I liked 8 mile too. Sure there's som...   Oct 24 2008, 09:51 AM
BanDaSnowman   Busta Rhymes - Rhymes Galore is one of my favorite...   Oct 25 2008, 11:26 AM
brooklyneast05   QUOTE(BanDaSnowman @ Oct 25 2008, 11:26 A...   Oct 25 2008, 11:30 AM
BanDaSnowman   QUOTE(brooklyneast05 @ Oct 25 2008, 12:30...   Oct 25 2008, 11:44 AM
kryogenix   (Hook) Ah ha, hush that fuss Everybody move to the...   Oct 26 2008, 10:13 PM
YukkaPukka   this is really a good list. i haven't heard of...   Oct 27 2008, 12:08 PM
fameONE   I have yet to touch on a few of the albums on the ...   Oct 28 2008, 12:20 AM
andrewexd   illmatic. I know its the cliche of goat albums (be...   Oct 31 2008, 01:01 AM
fameONE   QUOTE(andrewexd @ Oct 31 2008, 12:01 AM) ...   Oct 31 2008, 02:44 AM
kryogenix   QUOTE(fameONE @ Oct 31 2008, 02:44 AM) Il...   Oct 31 2008, 02:46 AM
fameONE   QUOTE(kryogenix @ Oct 31 2008, 01:46 AM) ...   Oct 31 2008, 04:23 AM
andrewexd   QUOTE(fameONE @ Oct 31 2008, 05:23 AM) I...   Oct 31 2008, 12:24 PM
so0o_contagious   wowwwwwwwww amazing list! what about nas? im...   Oct 31 2008, 03:24 AM
salcha4u   Haha people would get mad if they listened to Immo...   Oct 31 2008, 03:39 AM
Blaqheartedstar   Like rock over anything else but i use to listen t...   Oct 31 2008, 08:10 AM
paperplane   As someone who has transitioned into hiphop (...   Oct 31 2008, 09:56 AM
fameONE   QUOTE(paperplane @ Oct 31 2008, 08:56 AM)...   Oct 31 2008, 10:13 AM
so0o_contagious   QUOTEExactly. You need to already have an understa...   Oct 31 2008, 02:43 PM
fameONE   QUOTE(so0o_contagious @ Oct 31 2008, 01:4...   Nov 1 2008, 01:38 AM
andrewexd   dance with the devil is one of my favorite songs.   Oct 31 2008, 05:21 PM
AyeVickaye   Hip Hop is poetry of the streets :D. New Artists n...   Oct 31 2008, 06:40 PM
brooklyneast05   not to rain on anyone's parade , but am i the ...   Oct 31 2008, 08:33 PM
andrewexd   QUOTE(brooklyneast05 @ Oct 31 2008, 09:33...   Oct 31 2008, 10:51 PM
mystline   Nujabes got me into the whole scene of hip hop, ho...   Nov 1 2008, 05:55 AM
fameONE   QUOTE(mystline @ Nov 1 2008, 04:55 AM) Nu...   Nov 1 2008, 08:37 AM
MrElsewhere   QUOTE(mystline @ Nov 1 2008, 02:55 AM) Nu...   Dec 8 2008, 02:48 AM
andrewexd   lol ll cool j needs to quit rapping. I liked qua...   Nov 1 2008, 11:35 AM
CruelDemeanor   QUOTE(andrewexd @ Nov 1 2008, 10:35 AM) l...   Nov 3 2008, 02:57 AM
WarMachine   I'm considering making a few more '10 albu...   Jan 21 2009, 04:02 AM
Tsukuyomi-No-Mokoto   I'd def. recommend some AZ, Nas, KRS-1 Rakim, ...   Jan 22 2009, 11:20 PM
FreshYetDead   My list probably sucks in your guys' opinion b...   Jan 23 2009, 12:08 AM
WarMachine   ^You have to take into consideration that I made t...   Jan 23 2009, 03:14 AM
FreshYetDead   QUOTE(WarMachine @ Jan 23 2009, 05:14 AM)...   Jan 24 2009, 01:37 PM


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