CA's Prop 8, FL's amendment 2 and Arizona's prop 102/ Defining marriage, Surprised this never got mentioned here. Rating Options

[Blaqheartedstar]

Surprised this never got mentioned here. CA's Prop 8, FL's amendment 2 and Arizona's prop 102, and the whole defining gay marriage. With election coming up pretty soon, Prop 8 has been a big issue.

The argument is that Prop 8, amendment 2 and prop 102 will define that marriage between a man and a woman will be the only legal kind of marriage in California for prop 8, Florida for amendment 2, and Arizona with prop 102.

Some people argue that it has nothing to do with gay rights, or about gays in general
yet mention that if it doesn't pass parental rights, and religious freedom gets taken away.

Others mention that it does (take away gay rights), If the law passes Same sex couples will not be able to
1. Marry the person they love.
2. Those who are already married will lose the rights that come with it.


There is also the argument that Marriage is about love regardless of gender (Love is Blind).
yet others strongly believe that marriage is a religious, spiritual union between a man and a women.

To start a discussion here are several questions
1. what do you feel will happen if these laws passes and soon spreads to other states?
2. What do you feel marriage is, and should the idea of same sex marriage be allowed?
3. What do you think will happen to the children whose parents happen to be both male or female, If these laws passes what do you think will happen to the children?

[brooklyneast05]

^if you don't see a place for government in marriage then...sorry but i don't think you even understand marriage or what comes along with it anyway. it's not just a little promise between you and someone, it's a legal binding.

marital status determines a lot of technical things that have nothing to do with love or religion or any of that. you know like, home insurance, auto insurance, health insurance, inheritance, social security, medicare, pension, tons of discounts on basically everything from home loans to joint tax returns....like 299329323 benefits


marriage is more about legal things than anything else imo. when i get married it will be because of the benefits, not becuase i think i need someones approval/recognition to love someone. ofcourse, i'm also not religious so i don't give a shit about any of that union between me, my wife, and the sky fairy stuff.

anway, you can't get these things without being recognized by the govt as married. you can love someone all you want without govt recognition. government is going to be involved in marriage regardless, because it makes sense for them to be from a legal perspective. married couples should be treated differently than independents.

but yeah, homosexual couples who are together on the same long term basis should have the same benefits as a heterosexual couple.

[coconutter]

^if you don't see a place for government in marriage then...sorry but i don't think you even understand marriage or what comes along with it anyway. it's not just a little promise between you and someone, it's a legal binding.

EXACTLY! Why deprive the rights of people based on what they like, it's stupid stupid stupid.

Does my public school teach me about the creation of the world by God's design or evolution? Evolution. Who even has a say about it? No one. In the same way, why should marriage be taught in such a liberal way, when the creation of earth itself is not?

I don't want MY little brother going on a field trip to a gay marraige. I don't want MY little brother being exposed to contraversial things as a young kid. I don't believe in gay marriage because I believe that those relationships are a sin in God's eyes. That is exactly what the Bible says.

Why does everyone INSIST upon going against nature?

Uhh, marriage isn't being taught, and nor do schools go on field trips to heterosexual or homosexual marriages, what are you talking about? Also, that is how you believe the earth is created, not everyone else. I also don't believe your little brother will be exposed to any homosexuality at a young age because, they don't go on field trips to gay marriages, and I doubt 4th grade boys are mauling on each other. Your last statement in the first paragraph made no sense at all, and they definitely don't TEACH marriages in school, and gay marriages aren't being looked at in a liberal way, they're being looked at in a way that's more like "are we really treating people unfairly because they're gay"? I don't think God said you should not like gays or not allow them to get married (because first of all marriage has nothing to do with love), and I also believe he did say he loves everyone equally and that we should be nice to others. Is hating other people, and also coming up with ridiculous reasons to hate others that don't exist, is that really what your God wants? I don't think so. I think you need to read The Bible a few more times to understand it.

Also, where EXACTLY in The Bible does it say "gay marriage is a sin in God's eyes and you should not believe in them" where? I don't think you can answer that straight forward. Also, read the posts, they'll start to make a lot of sense.