Plot to kill OBAMA |
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http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/election...nate_Obama.html
why does every powerful leaders who represent Black people eventually die sooner? ![]() JFK, MLK, Malcom X, Lincoln, and a few of people were killed. This is so sickening. Such strong racism and hate still exist today which is ridiculously unbelievable. I thought Americans knew better and had already gone over history. History isn't suppose to repeat itself. ![]() |
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![]() yan lin♥ ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 14,129 Joined: Apr 2004 Member No: 13,627 ![]() |
Of course not, but the factors leading up to the wars are different and foreign policy is definitely not a repeat in the gulf wars and in Vietnam. And if you see it as a general type of "oh we're at war again", then this type of 'repeat' can apply to everything. It's like saying the current economic crisis is a repeat of the 1929 stock market crash and the depression that came subsequently.
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![]() Vae Victis ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Official Member Posts: 1,416 Joined: Sep 2006 Member No: 460,227 ![]() |
Of course not, but the factors leading up to the wars are different and foreign policy is definitely not a repeat in the gulf wars and in Vietnam. This does not merit discounting any paralleling factors at all as a figurative "repeat". Your own definition obviously isn't positing every factor of a sporting event to be identical with one another, but they are "repeats" as far as similar circumstances that stand in contrast to what would otherwise be different occasions. QUOTE And if you see it as a general type of "oh we're at war again", then this type of 'repeat' can apply to everything. If it was simply that, then Thermopylae would be as apt for comparison as Vietnam, nevermind WWII. I cited specific components that collectively amount to making such a judgment. QUOTE It's like saying the current economic crisis is a repeat of the 1929 stock market crash and the depression that came subsequently. Exactly. It would not be fallacious to say, "We are facing a repeat of the 1930s" in regards to simply contending with an unprecedented economic downturn, with every other variable being its own. This falls squarely in line with your definition's example. |
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![]() yan lin♥ ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 14,129 Joined: Apr 2004 Member No: 13,627 ![]() |
This does not merit discounting any paralleling factors at all as a figurative "repeat". Your own definition obviously isn't positing every factor of a sporting event to be identical with one another, but they are "repeats" as far as similar circumstances that stand in contrast to what would otherwise be different occasions. I took the entire definition from Merriam-Webster's online. I'll admit, I didn't read through the entire definition. But if you want to take it so figuratively, you could say that basically everything is a repeat of something else. QUOTE Exactly. It would not be fallacious to say, "We are facing a repeat of the 1930s" in regards to simply contending with an unprecedented economic downturn, with every other variable being its own. This falls squarely in line with your definition's example. I don't believe that the current economic situation is a repeat of the 1930s. I only said that as an example of what people may say for "history repetition." I believe in similar situations, but definitely not repetitions. |
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![]() Vae Victis ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Official Member Posts: 1,416 Joined: Sep 2006 Member No: 460,227 ![]() |
I took the entire definition from Merriam-Webster's online. I'll admit, I didn't read through the entire definition. But if you want to take it so figuratively, you could say that basically everything is a repeat of something else. Not really. Some circumstances will be more akin to past instances than others, so the amount that adds up in making a collective call on whether the overarching situation possesses enough similarities to resonate varies. Iraq is similar to Thermopylae in the fact that both involved carbon-based lifeforms, but that's not enough to be useful in warranting a connection. Iraq and Vietnam, on the other hand, are often cited as lessons on how foreign policy should be conducted. Again, being "figurative" only extends to whatever the intended degree is. QUOTE I don't believe that the current economic situation is a repeat of the 1930s. I only said that as an example of what people may say for "history repetition." I believe in similar situations, but definitely not repetitions. A similar situation is a repetition of like circumstances, so in order for a similarity to even exist, there must be some contingency that carries over, or repeats, and underscores the rest of the picture, regardless of how much it may differ otherwise. This is not an opinion. |
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