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Whinoa
post Oct 27 2008, 06:48 PM
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http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/election...nate_Obama.html

why does every powerful leaders who represent Black people eventually die sooner? mellow.gif

JFK, MLK, Malcom X, Lincoln, and a few of people were killed.

This is so sickening. Such strong racism and hate still exist today which is ridiculously unbelievable. I thought Americans knew better and had already gone over history. History isn't suppose to repeat itself. blink.gif
 
 
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misoshiru
post Oct 28 2008, 09:07 AM
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Of course not, but the factors leading up to the wars are different and foreign policy is definitely not a repeat in the gulf wars and in Vietnam. And if you see it as a general type of "oh we're at war again", then this type of 'repeat' can apply to everything. It's like saying the current economic crisis is a repeat of the 1929 stock market crash and the depression that came subsequently.
 
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post Oct 28 2008, 03:12 PM
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QUOTE(misoshiru @ Oct 28 2008, 09:07 AM) *
Of course not, but the factors leading up to the wars are different and foreign policy is definitely not a repeat in the gulf wars and in Vietnam.


This does not merit discounting any paralleling factors at all as a figurative "repeat". Your own definition obviously isn't positing every factor of a sporting event to be identical with one another, but they are "repeats" as far as similar circumstances that stand in contrast to what would otherwise be different occasions.

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And if you see it as a general type of "oh we're at war again", then this type of 'repeat' can apply to everything.


If it was simply that, then Thermopylae would be as apt for comparison as Vietnam, nevermind WWII. I cited specific components that collectively amount to making such a judgment.

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It's like saying the current economic crisis is a repeat of the 1929 stock market crash and the depression that came subsequently.


Exactly. It would not be fallacious to say, "We are facing a repeat of the 1930s" in regards to simply contending with an unprecedented economic downturn, with every other variable being its own. This falls squarely in line with your definition's example.
 
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post Oct 28 2008, 05:53 PM
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QUOTE(Reidar @ Oct 29 2008, 04:12 AM) *
This does not merit discounting any paralleling factors at all as a figurative "repeat". Your own definition obviously isn't positing every factor of a sporting event to be identical with one another, but they are "repeats" as far as similar circumstances that stand in contrast to what would otherwise be different occasions.

I took the entire definition from Merriam-Webster's online. I'll admit, I didn't read through the entire definition. But if you want to take it so figuratively, you could say that basically everything is a repeat of something else.

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Exactly. It would not be fallacious to say, "We are facing a repeat of the 1930s" in regards to simply contending with an unprecedented economic downturn, with every other variable being its own. This falls squarely in line with your definition's example.

I don't believe that the current economic situation is a repeat of the 1930s. I only said that as an example of what people may say for "history repetition."

I believe in similar situations, but definitely not repetitions.
 

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