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VP Debate, Palin v. Biden
shanaynay
post Oct 2 2008, 07:33 PM
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Starts in a half hour. Who's watching it, and what do you expect from it?
 
 
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Teesa
post Oct 3 2008, 07:24 PM
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well, we'll disagree on that. but i think it was obvious that he was admitting that he was not disciplined by saying he would not change. i don't know what you wanted to hear exactly.


all the candidates oppose same-sex marriage. here's a more in-depth look at how they stand on gay marriage, among other issues:
http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/issues/is...exmarriage.html
 
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post Oct 3 2008, 07:41 PM
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QUOTE(Teesa @ Oct 3 2008, 07:24 PM) *
well, we'll disagree on that. but i think it was obvious that he was admitting that he was not disciplined by saying he would not change. i don't know what you wanted to hear exactly.


That would be redundant, because a lack of discipline is the example that the moderator used.

Also, "I'm not going to change" was transitioned into a positive context, not a critical one. He was talking about how he would stand by his principles, regardless of whether or not people want him to.
 
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QUOTE(Reidar @ Oct 3 2008, 08:41 PM) *
That would be redundant, because a lack of discipline is the example that the moderator used.

Also, "I'm not going to change" was transitioned into a positive context, not a critical one. He was talking about how he would stand by his principles, regardless of whether or not people want him to.


of course it was transitioned into a positive one! even though people want to hear about candidate's faults or whatever, they're most likely not going to hear about them (unless it's their opponent, obviously). it sucks, but side-stepping questions (although i think biden clearly did a better job of answering questions directly) is so common that i don't get why people are surprised when candidates go another direction. it happens alllll the time.
 
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QUOTE(Teesa @ Oct 3 2008, 08:18 PM) *
of course it was transitioned into a positive one!


Which was exactly the opposite of what the question called for. That wouldn't be an issue if the aforementioned "it" was an answer to the question in the first place.

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i don't get why people are surprised when candidates go another direction. it happens alllll the time.


Being critical =/= being surprised. I doubt anyone picking apart Palin's many gaffes are actually surprised about them by now.
 

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shanaynay   VP Debate   Oct 2 2008, 07:33 PM
1angel3   Oh thanks for reminding me.   Oct 2 2008, 07:49 PM
only-tuesdays   I have an interview so I'm setting it to recor...   Oct 2 2008, 08:00 PM
mipadi   I'm watching it now. On CNN. What's with a...   Oct 2 2008, 08:20 PM
paperplane   I'm watching it on cnn.com because the tv is b...   Oct 2 2008, 08:27 PM
absinthe   QUOTE(paperplane @ Oct 2 2008, 06:27 PM) ...   Oct 2 2008, 08:41 PM
technicolour   ^ I think they.....did.   Oct 2 2008, 08:43 PM
manic   I didn't know that they were both against gay ...   Oct 2 2008, 08:46 PM
FreshYetDead   QUOTE(manic @ Oct 2 2008, 09:46 PM) I did...   Oct 3 2008, 02:45 PM
misoshiru   palin is a dumb bitch.   Oct 2 2008, 08:50 PM
-----   QUOTE(misoshiru @ Oct 2 2008, 09:50 PM) p...   Oct 2 2008, 08:56 PM
freeridefight   QUOTE(misoshiru @ Oct 2 2008, 09:50 PM) p...   Oct 2 2008, 11:01 PM
paperplane   She keeps saying "nucular." ffs.   Oct 2 2008, 08:54 PM
misoshiru   QUOTE(paperplane @ Oct 3 2008, 09:54 AM) ...   Oct 2 2008, 09:11 PM
coconutter   QUOTE(paperplane @ Oct 2 2008, 09:54 PM) ...   Oct 3 2008, 08:06 PM
shanaynay   her avoiding the question thing annoys me... But ...   Oct 2 2008, 08:58 PM
Hedonism   Biden looks unhealthily orange.   Oct 2 2008, 08:59 PM
technicolour   STOP SAYING WHAT MCCAIN AND FREAKING OBAMA SUPPORT...   Oct 2 2008, 09:00 PM
-----   wtf, did she just say "doggonit?"   Oct 2 2008, 09:12 PM
misoshiru   yeah. and i just realized, she got the name of th...   Oct 2 2008, 09:14 PM
technicolour   Biden is a manipulative bastard who JUST WENT OVER...   Oct 2 2008, 09:24 PM
misoshiru   well then, someone should have given palin the red...   Oct 2 2008, 09:27 PM
brooklyneast05   QUOTE(misoshiru @ Oct 2 2008, 09:27 PM) w...   Oct 2 2008, 09:27 PM
technicolour   QUOTE(misoshiru @ Oct 2 2008, 09:27 PM) w...   Oct 2 2008, 09:28 PM
misoshiru   QUOTE(technicolour @ Oct 3 2008, 10:28 AM...   Oct 2 2008, 09:39 PM
DoubleJ   She really said say it ain't so Joe....LMAO...   Oct 2 2008, 09:28 PM
Hedonism   I love when it's over they go "OMG I LOVE...   Oct 2 2008, 09:34 PM
hi-C   QUOTE(mipadi @ Oct 2 2008, 09:20 PM) In o...   Oct 2 2008, 09:45 PM
ArjunaCapulong   lol nuclear Palin said some pretty corny ish   Oct 2 2008, 09:48 PM
Hedonism   She sounds so country, that I forgot that she wasn...   Oct 2 2008, 09:50 PM
ArjunaCapulong   Yeah, she's waaay up north, ha ha.   Oct 2 2008, 09:51 PM
hi-C   Don'cha'know, Bahb-bee?   Oct 2 2008, 09:52 PM
DrEaMgUy2K1   she pranced around questions and didnt really put ...   Oct 2 2008, 10:09 PM
Reidar   QUOTE(DrEaMgUy2K1 @ Oct 2 2008, 10:09 PM)...   Oct 2 2008, 11:04 PM
misoshiru   palin can't answer questions.   Oct 2 2008, 10:12 PM
Teesa   all sarah palin had to do was say a few smart sent...   Oct 2 2008, 10:13 PM
misoshiru   and the thing about the current number troops in i...   Oct 2 2008, 10:15 PM
fameONE   QUOTE(misoshiru @ Oct 2 2008, 09:15 PM) a...   Oct 3 2008, 06:38 AM
Teesa   ^oh yeah, just checked that on the factchecker. uh...   Oct 2 2008, 10:18 PM
cakedout   who wants to place bets on when mccain croaks like...   Oct 2 2008, 10:37 PM
misoshiru   uh...palin was all like "I DUN HAVE AN ACHILL...   Oct 2 2008, 11:08 PM
Reidar   Yeah, no. I have that exact clip right in front of...   Oct 2 2008, 11:16 PM
hi-C   Biden managed to answer that Achilles heel more di...   Oct 2 2008, 11:10 PM
hi-C   Didn't that identify "excessive passion...   Oct 2 2008, 11:20 PM
Reidar   QUOTE(hi-C @ Oct 2 2008, 11:20 PM) D...   Oct 2 2008, 11:24 PM
berrypop90   Palin changed subjects and veered off course the w...   Oct 3 2008, 12:07 AM
andrewexd   booo this was no katie couric intervew   Oct 3 2008, 04:33 AM
brooklyneast05   i agree with teesa, she looked good for herself. s...   Oct 3 2008, 06:54 AM
misoshiru   although I will say that I was impressed with the ...   Oct 3 2008, 08:42 AM
superstitious   QUOTE(misoshiru @ Oct 3 2008, 08:42 AM) a...   Oct 3 2008, 08:47 AM
kryogenix   QUOTE(superstitious @ Oct 3 2008, 08:47 A...   Oct 3 2008, 08:56 AM
superstitious   QUOTE(kryogenix @ Oct 3 2008, 08:56 AM) I...   Oct 3 2008, 09:03 AM
DoubleJ   Overall I think that Biden won. As some have state...   Oct 3 2008, 08:45 AM
fameONE   I would have liked to see Biden rip into Palin, we...   Oct 3 2008, 09:07 AM
freeridefight   I would of liked to have seen Palin have more dire...   Oct 3 2008, 11:25 AM
brooklyneast05   why? the vice presidential candidates are supposed...   Oct 3 2008, 11:54 AM
freeridefight   QUOTE(brooklyneast05 @ Oct 3 2008, 12:54 ...   Oct 3 2008, 02:02 PM
kryogenix   They don't know what a platform is, it's o...   Oct 3 2008, 12:03 PM
Teesa   QUOTE"I may not answer the question the way y...   Oct 3 2008, 05:29 PM
Reidar   QUOTE(Teesa @ Oct 3 2008, 05:29 PM) and a...   Oct 3 2008, 07:00 PM
fameONE   QUOTE(Teesa @ Oct 3 2008, 04:29 PM) i se...   Oct 4 2008, 02:10 AM
andrewexd   wtf is a joe six pack and doesnt she realize nobod...   Oct 3 2008, 05:47 PM
Comptine   I thought Biden did a great job of balancing his v...   Oct 3 2008, 06:47 PM
Teesa   well, we'll disagree on that. but i think it w...   Oct 3 2008, 07:24 PM
Reidar   QUOTE(Teesa @ Oct 3 2008, 07:24 PM) well,...   Oct 3 2008, 07:41 PM
Teesa   QUOTE(Reidar @ Oct 3 2008, 08:41 PM) That...   Oct 3 2008, 08:18 PM
Reidar   QUOTE(Teesa @ Oct 3 2008, 08:18 PM) of co...   Oct 3 2008, 08:53 PM
kryogenix   which one would win in a deathmatch!   Oct 3 2008, 07:44 PM
Reidar   Now you're speaking my language.   Oct 3 2008, 07:45 PM
kryogenix   iTry   Oct 3 2008, 07:57 PM
SilentLaugh   19 most ridiculous moments from the vp debate   Oct 3 2008, 08:27 PM
dowhead   Merriam-Webster Main Entry: nu·cle·ar Listen ...   Oct 3 2008, 08:34 PM
misoshiru   QUOTE(SilentLaugh @ Oct 4 2008, 09:27 AM)...   Oct 3 2008, 09:07 PM
paperplane   Yeah, I saw that and was amused. As much as I do...   Oct 3 2008, 09:29 PM
Teesa   ^i know, i totally hate that double standard. i re...   Oct 4 2008, 10:32 PM
andrewexd   even her kids are pinheads   Oct 6 2008, 01:28 AM
fameONE   QUOTE(andrewexd @ Oct 6 2008, 12:28 AM) h...   Oct 6 2008, 04:27 AM
andrewexd   nothing. It was a cute pic though.   Oct 6 2008, 10:20 AM
fameONE   QUOTE(andrewexd @ Oct 6 2008, 09:20 AM) n...   Oct 6 2008, 10:38 AM
andrewexd   + shes wearing the new bape maternity line   Oct 6 2008, 11:18 AM


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