The 2008 Election:, Obama v. McCain Options

[NoSex]

So, political discourse has been showing up more and more the closer and closer we get to November. As a result, I've decided that this thread should exist. All political arguments that relate to the elections (and the candidates) should find their home here, more or less.

Who do you think should run America? Why?
What direction do you think America is going in, as a country? What direction do you think we should go in? Why?

Support your arguments with evidence and details, make citations, try to have fun; no spamming, character bashing, etc. etc.

[pink.x.r0se]

and for most of years, obama voted "present" on voting issues. sometimes he was even the only one voting present. why should i want a president who can't even make known his stance on ANY issue?

as for palin and her foreign policy; she's meeting with the president of colombia, iraq, pakistan and georgia as well as henry kissinger, all in an effort to prepare for her possible vice presidency

not to mention, what experience has obama had with foreign relations? (i'm actually not sure about that one, its not rhetorical) but i do know his foreign policy; negotiation without preconditions. sitting down with ANY leader. how can you expect to negotiate with anyone who says " "We are not fighting so that you will offer us something. We are fighting to eliminate you." (hussein moussawi, former terrorist leader)

[mipadi]

and for most of years, obama voted "present" on voting issues. sometimes he was even the only one voting present. why should i want a president who can't even make known his stance on ANY issue?

I'll be honest, I haven't gone through and counted all of Obama's votes to see his percentages of yeas, nays, and no-votes; but based on his voting record as listed here, I'd say that it's far-fetched to say that he's failed to vote on most issues.

Even so, I think Obama has taken a stance on a number of issues, as judged by speeches, interviews, writings, and the like.

as for palin and her foreign policy; she's meeting with the president of colombia, iraq, pakistan and georgia as well as henry kissinger, all in an effort to prepare for her possible vice presidency

Great. I don't know if merely meeting with political leaders qualifies one to make decisions on issues related to those nations, but I guess it's a start. (Although I wouldn't mind if she didn't meet at all with Henry Kissinger; that's hardly a good thing.) The fact remains, though, that she doesn't really have any experience in foreign policy, nor as she made many statements as to her position. I'd like to give her time, but...the clock is winding down a bit.

but i do know his foreign policy; negotiation without preconditions. sitting down with ANY leader. how can you expect to negotiate with anyone who says " "We are not fighting so that you will offer us something. We are fighting to eliminate you." (hussein moussawi, former terrorist leader)

Yes, because we've seen over the past eight years that attacking sovereign nations is the best foreign policy.

Look, I'd rather have someone who's willing to negotiate than go to war. McCain's a hawk; he's on record saying that he'd go to war with Russia if Russia attacked Georgia (after Georgia becomes a part of NATO). Russia! That's the problem with McCain; he hasn't realized the Cold War's over, and he and the Bush Administration seem intent on starting it up again. And they're getting their way, too; the Russian Navy's even participating in war games with Venezuela.

But I think you're alluding to the highly inappropriate comments Bush made before the Israeli Knisset back in May. I have a lot to say on the issue, but I think that Chris Matthews says it better than I ever could: