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FISA & obama
brooklyneast05
post Jul 12 2008, 09:27 AM
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Fifteen months of heated debate in Congress came to an end on Thursday when the Foreign Intelligence Security Act (FISA) was signed into law by President Bush. The law that passed the senate on Wednesday by a vote of 69 to 28 included the controversial amendment that provided immunity for telecommunication companies that cooperated with the NSA's warrant-less wire-tapping program.

The FISA debate was especially bitter for Democrats, who were split on the issue. "In a Democrat-controlled Congress... We're about to grant immunity to companies that are alleged to have participated in the administration's lawlessness?" Democratic Senator Feingold, who leads a coalition with Senator Leahy against the bill, asked congress. The FISA bill has been heralded a triumph for the Bush administration and a serious loss for the Democratic Party, especially Senator Obama who during the full swing of the primary in January, vowed to filibuster any bill that included retroactive immunity for telecommunication companies.

Obama reneged on this promise, and instead voted in favor of FISA.


how do the obama supporters feel about this?



this plus his change of position on public campaign financing. i'm not feeling it.
 
 
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brooklyneast05
post Jul 12 2008, 09:56 AM
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QUOTE(salcha4u @ Jul 12 2008, 09:48 AM) *
Yea, I'm smelling a Kerry rerun too.
Looks like he's igniting skepticism...who knows what other change he promises to bring if he wins the election. The economy is going down and he's not going to be fulfilling all of them, lots of people are going to be disappointeddddd.
Here's the note from Barack:


yeah, this right here isn't change, it's more of the same bullshit we've been seeing for years now.

i'm all for the whole change message, but who isn't? the presidents support is like 17% now or something, obviously the majority are for change. the thing is that i'm not seeing any clear definition of this "change" so far. the message has been good up to this point, but from here on out i think it's going to wear thin because a lot of people are gonna want him to start defining it. change is too general, everyone can just imagine the change they personally wanna see and project that onto obama.

flip flopping is far from "new school politics".



the senates 69 to 28 vote on this is more disappointing than obama's personal flip flop though to me.


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n a dangerous world, government must have the authority to collect the intelligence we need to protect the American people.

man, i hate this sentence.
 

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