Lil Wayne = Phoney., =\ Options

[MiKKiBOO]

Its known that lil wayne became the hottest rapper by using other people's lyrics. Yeah he is the hottest rapper alive [[right now]], but he never uses his own lyrics. Most of his lyrics are from a R&B singer from back in the day. and Lil wayne is really ugly, why do girls throw theirselfs at him? because of the fame probably. but yea. i found that out today.

[Simba]

Ah ha, KC, you do put up a respectable argument on this matter. Just so you know, I ain't really gonna argue with you much since I never try to align myself too much with either radically mainstream or radically underground, 'cause I listen to both kinds with pleasure.

While you got a point about Nas vs. Soulja Boy, these two cats cover totally different styles of MCing/rapping. I mean, I personally sho'nuff wouldn't pop a Nas track at the high point of a dance party, a Soulja Boy track would probably be better suited for that ish. Then again, you don't got time to be listening for lyrical content at a dance party.

One can put you in artistic articulation while the other can rock a party.

Though, you can't say all underground/alternative stuff is depressing and about hard times and all (that seems to be the kind of image "underground" has carried, even though it's not completely true). I'd cite an example, but you prolly never heard of 'em anyway, ha ha. For real though, for starters there's Jurassic 5.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=YhZt4i92aSA
you can't say that ish is depressing, they gots a breakdancin bear up on that, lol

lol and I dunno if I can say I respect Soulja Boy more than Nas. Alright I sho don't, but that isn't to say Nas can be somewhat radical. For the record, Hip Hop is not dead, and never was. Sure, maybe it's dying, but it sho ain't dead, you just might have to look harder.


I like Kanye West 'cause he's got more skill than these other kids, imo, but that doesn't mean I always agree with him, or I think he's completely positive. I was definitely aware of that kind of other stuff, and I still think he can be arrogant at times, but while looking at other artists who are popular today, I gotta say he's up there. If not him, then Common Sense.


I can't say people like Soulja Boy and Weezy aren't hurting hip hop. Because they're so popular, they're the sort of rap that most people are exposed to and recognize. And if that's all that people know, man, the image of hip hop gets mad twisted.


For the record, I've heard as many Weezy songs as I can take in without killing anyone, lol. (A Milli, Dr. Carter, Mr. Carter, a few of his better tracks, and inevitably Lollipop which is repetitive as heck, and he's got better stuff.) Sure he could get creative and think of different ish, but I still think it's corny as hail, ha ha. That's strictly personal opinion though. I was never a fan of lines like stuff like "Hi Mr. Toilet, I'm the shit," or however it goes, or "I get more ass than a toilet seat," I don't even know who said that ish.


Anyway, I think there should be a balance between these two general styles of hip hop, artistic and party rockers. These days though, the party rockers kinda been the only thing people been hearing.

Also, you can't deny that money and corporations have had a negative twist on Hip Hop. I mean, think about it, that ish definitely wasn't there before. It's funny 'cause Hip Hop was originally a rebel music against what was mainstream at the roots, like funk.

I need something thats going to blast in my car not put me to sleep.

ninja, you don't have no car, you totaled that ish, lol


Dayum, I didn't really want to make a long arse post.

[SuckDickNSaveLiv...]

Ah ha, KC, you do put up a respectable argument on this matter. Just so you know, I ain't really gonna argue with you much since I never try to align myself too much with either radically mainstream or radically underground, 'cause I listen to both kinds with pleasure.

While you got a point about Nas vs. Soulja Boy, these two cats cover totally different styles of MCing/rapping. I mean, I personally sho'nuff wouldn't pop a Nas track at the high point of a dance party, a Soulja Boy track would probably be better suited for that ish. Then again, you don't got time to be listening for lyrical content at a dance party.

One can put you in artistic articulation while the other can rock a party.

lol and I dunno if I can say I respect Soulja Boy more than Nas. Alright I sho don't, but that isn't to say Nas can be somewhat radical. For the record, Hip Hop is not dead, and never was. Sure, maybe it's dying, but it sho ain't dead, you just might have to look harder.
I like Kanye West 'cause he's got more skill than these other kids, imo, but that doesn't mean I always agree with him, or I think he's completely positive. I was definitely aware of that kind of other stuff, and I still think he can be arrogant at times, but while looking at other artists who are popular today, I gotta say he's up there. If not him, then Common Sense.
I can't say people like Soulja Boy and Weezy aren't hurting hip hop. Because they're so popular, they're the sort of rap that most people are exposed to and recognize. And if that's all that people know, man, the image of hip hop gets mad twisted.
For the record, I've heard as many Weezy songs as I can take in without killing anyone, lol. (A Milli, Dr. Carter, Mr. Carter, a few of his better tracks, and inevitably Lollipop which is repetitive as heck, and he's got better stuff.) Sure he could get creative and think of different ish, but I still think it's corny as hail, ha ha. That's strictly personal opinion though. I was never a fan of lines like stuff like "Hi Mr. Toilet, I'm the shit," or however it goes.
Anyway, I think there should be a balance between these two general styles of hip hop, artistic and party rockers. These days though, the party rockers kinda been the only thing people been hearing.

Also, you can't deny that money and corporations have had a negative twist on Hip Hop. I mean, think about it, that ish definitely wasn't there before. It's funny 'cause Hip Hop was originally a rebel music against what was mainstream at the roots, like funk.

@ playing Nas @ a high point in the party. I wouldn't do that either.

I agree with what you're saying about about a separation of balance. I think thats how it should be. Let the people have their artistic music and let them have their party rockers.

And I also agree if not Kanye then Common. While I prefer Ye's songs Common is more of a lyricist and I think he is one of the actually true positive rappers hip hop has. On to Lil Wayne, yeah I hated Lil Wayne myself up until the Drought 3 album. I still think some things he says is out of line while other times he gets in a zone.

And as far as corporations this is who people should point the fingers at , not the artist who are trying to make money. I think people fail to put themselves in that "If I was broke and had no money" position so they overlook that. You wouldn't do the same? You see how the media treated Chapelle when he walked away from 50 mill. The said he was crazy even though his intentions were right on the money. No matter which direction you go its always going to be looked at as a bad thing.

ninja, you don't have no car, you totaled that ish, lol

LMAO , but yo you got to get with the times. I'm in a Honda now.