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Does Evolution Require Atheism?
Tung
post Mar 10 2008, 04:07 PM
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Well does it? Most religious people and hardcore scientists today are often incline to believe that atheism and evolution are rigorously intertwined. According to the majority (us), we are thought to believe that if one is to accept evolution as the explanation for life on Earth, it usually leads that person to become an atheist.

The problem I have with this assumption is that I don’t agree with it. Contrary to popular belief, evolution actually doesn’t explain anything about the origins of the universe, the world, or life in general. You can say Evolution is more of an explanation on the development of life.

I personally believe a person can accept evolution as an explanation for the advancement of life, and the diversity, while still being able to believe that the Earth and life were first caused by God. Therefore, there’s no reason why a person can’t be a theist and at the same time accept the theory of evolution.

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post Mar 12 2008, 04:16 PM
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QUOTE(brooklyneast05 @ Mar 10 2008, 07:40 PM) *
i think it would just depend on how literal you choose to take genesis. 7 days could be 7 billion years if someone wanted to try to interpret it that way you know. but yeah i get what you're saying.


QUOTE(Tamacracker @ Mar 11 2008, 05:58 PM) *
Possibly 1 day to God could be 1000 years.


QUOTE(Tamacracker @ Mar 12 2008, 02:52 PM) *
I'm sayin by religious text/sources that 1 day to God is 1000 years to planet earth, ya dig? Good.


And, I'm saying you're all wrong. How many f**king times do I have to point this shit out?

1. Why should we ever believe that the word "day" is written in any other intent than its natural and understood meaning? And, why should we believe it's any different for the biblical texts?

2. The Hebrew word used in the actual text is "yôm." This word is used to indicate a normal 24-hour day (often guided by the movements of the sun).

3. In Genesis 1:5 the text even defines a day as how we understand it naturally: "And God called the light day, and the darkness He called night. And there was evening and there was morning, one day."

4. What is the difference? God is omnipotent, but just not omnipotent enough to have believably made the world in six days? Gotta make it six thousand or else the almighty God just couldn't handle it? f**king stupid.

P.S. I have an opinion on this topic and intend to post it sometime soon. Oh, and, just the simple doodle: Theism and evolution are not mutually exclusive.
 
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post Mar 17 2008, 06:34 PM
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QUOTE(NoSex @ Mar 12 2008, 05:16 PM) *
And, I'm saying you're all wrong. How many f**king times do I have to point this shit out?

1. Why should we ever believe that the word "day" is written in any other intent than its natural and understood meaning? And, why should we believe it's any different for the biblical texts?

2. The Hebrew word used in the actual text is "yôm." This word is used to indicate a normal 24-hour day (often guided by the movements of the sun).

3. In Genesis 1:5 the text even defines a day as how we understand it naturally: "And God called the light day, and the darkness He called night. And there was evening and there was morning, one day."

4. What is the difference? God is omnipotent, but just not omnipotent enough to have believably made the world in six days? Gotta make it six thousand or else the almighty God just couldn't handle it? f**king stupid.

P.S. I have an opinion on this topic and intend to post it sometime soon. Oh, and, just the simple doodle: Theism and evolution are not mutually exclusive.



Who gives a shit what a human has to say about Gods work. So what if a Jew said 7 days. Mother f**ker what I'm sayin is... when God told his people it took him 7 days, mother f**ker it was his 7 days, not human, planetary, motherf**kin earthly 7 mther shit f**k 7 days. f**k!!!


If God said, Earth is the size of a pea... motherf**ker, do you really think we're on planet earth the size of a pea? No.. this isn't taken literally. To God's enormous size... from his own EYES, from his OWN perception earth from the distance OF HIM makes the motehr f**kin shitty f**kin planet the size of the mother f**kin pea that's in your mother f**kin mouth mother f**ker!!....


Sorry.. I just hate people and their f**kin literal minds. -.-

Please forgive me.
 
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post Mar 29 2008, 03:33 AM
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QUOTE(Tamacracker @ Mar 17 2008, 07:34 PM) *
Who gives a shit what a human has to say about Gods work. So what if a Jew said 7 days. Mother f**ker what I'm sayin is... when God told his people it took him 7 days, mother f**ker it was his 7 days, not human, planetary, motherf**kin earthly 7 mther shit f**k 7 days. f**k!!!
If God said, Earth is the size of a pea... motherf**ker, do you really think we're on planet earth the size of a pea? No.. this isn't taken literally. To God's enormous size... from his own EYES, from his OWN perception earth from the distance OF HIM makes the motehr f**kin shitty f**kin planet the size of the mother f**kin pea that's in your mother f**kin mouth mother f**ker!!....
Sorry.. I just hate people and their f**kin literal minds. -.-

Please forgive me.


Dude, are you some kind of Nazi? Jesus Christ was a Jew and he was a pretty nice dude, and so were his disciples. It sucked that they had to completely f**k up the world for the next 2 million years, but what the hell.


You are completely missing the point. It doesn't matter what God said in this case because in this case a human being was recounting the fairytale that is Genesis and stating that it happened in seven human days, because it was a human who wrote it. Stop making shit up about how we have to read 1 human year as 1000 godyears, and other bullshit.

Please don't ask us to forgive you. If you know that you're being a turd (which you do, or you wouldn't be apologizing), and you act like a turd regardless, it doesn't matter if you apologize or not. Just because you apologize for something doesn't make it alright when you do it anyway. In fact, not being ignorant about the wrongness of your actions and committing them anyway makes it worse. I hope you understand that some day.
 

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tungmyBANANA   Does Evolution Require Atheism?   Mar 10 2008, 04:07 PM
brooklyneast05   no. it doesn't require atheism.   Mar 10 2008, 04:10 PM
misoshiru   No. I believe in evolution, but I'm not athei...   Mar 10 2008, 04:16 PM
Steven   Do you believe in magiccccccccc it's here at M...   Mar 10 2008, 04:17 PM
monster   no. -edit tung, im ranting here. why is it that...   Mar 10 2008, 04:53 PM
BadCraziness   QUOTE(monster @ Mar 10 2008, 05:53 PM) an...   Mar 29 2008, 03:16 AM
Tamacracker   QUOTE(BadCraziness @ Mar 29 2008, 04:16 A...   Mar 29 2008, 03:27 AM
BadCraziness   QUOTE(Tamacracker @ Mar 29 2008, 04:27 AM...   Mar 29 2008, 03:55 AM
Tamacracker   QUOTE(BadCraziness @ Mar 29 2008, 04:55 A...   Mar 29 2008, 04:19 AM
BadCraziness   QUOTE(Tamacracker @ Mar 29 2008, 05:19 AM...   Mar 29 2008, 05:06 AM
Tamacracker   QUOTE(BadCraziness @ Mar 29 2008, 06:06 A...   Mar 29 2008, 05:25 AM
BadCraziness   QUOTE(Tamacracker @ Mar 29 2008, 06:25 AM...   Mar 29 2008, 05:49 AM
BadCraziness   QUOTE(Tamacracker @ Mar 29 2008, 05:19 AM...   Mar 29 2008, 05:11 AM
ChaseTheDragon   QUOTE(BadCraziness @ Mar 29 2008, 05:11 A...   Mar 29 2008, 05:33 AM
BadCraziness   QUOTE(ChaseTheDragon @ Mar 29 2008, 06:33...   Mar 29 2008, 05:39 AM
pandora   evolution does not require atheism. as a christian...   Mar 10 2008, 05:46 PM
pandora   http://atheism.about.com/library/FAQs/evo/...o_rel...   Mar 10 2008, 05:48 PM
Tamacracker   Evolution is evolution... whether a religious or n...   Mar 10 2008, 06:13 PM
superstitious   I believe the question is whether or not one can b...   Mar 10 2008, 06:24 PM
Tamacracker   QUOTE(superstitious @ Mar 10 2008, 07:24 ...   Mar 10 2008, 06:28 PM
kryogenix   I believe in evolution.   Mar 10 2008, 07:06 PM
Steven   QUOTE(kryogenix @ Mar 10 2008, 07:06 PM) ...   Mar 10 2008, 08:17 PM
Sulfur   If one believes in evolution, one can't believ...   Mar 10 2008, 07:32 PM
tungmyBANANA   Wow whoa there okay podo. I'm a dick, and so a...   Mar 10 2008, 07:54 PM
Sulfur   QUOTE(tungmyBANANA @ Mar 10 2008, 08:54 P...   Mar 10 2008, 08:38 PM
tungmyBANANA   QUOTE(Sulfur @ Mar 10 2008, 06:38 PM) Wel...   Mar 11 2008, 06:50 PM
yrrnotelekktric   no, evolution doesnt require atheism.   Mar 10 2008, 08:00 PM
brooklyneast05   i think it would just depend on how literal you ch...   Mar 10 2008, 08:40 PM
Sulfur   QUOTE(brooklyneast05 @ Mar 10 2008, 09:40...   Mar 10 2008, 08:42 PM
Tamacracker   QUOTE(brooklyneast05 @ Mar 10 2008, 09:40...   Mar 11 2008, 06:58 PM
brooklyneast05   QUOTE(Tamacracker @ Mar 11 2008, 06:58 PM...   Mar 11 2008, 08:27 PM
Sulfur   QUOTE(Tamacracker @ Mar 11 2008, 07:58 PM...   Mar 12 2008, 12:52 AM
Tamacracker   QUOTE(Sulfur @ Mar 12 2008, 01:52 AM) If ...   Mar 12 2008, 03:52 PM
ArjunaCapulong   I've seen a couple of Roman Catholics out ther...   Mar 11 2008, 06:52 PM
misoshiru   QUOTE(ArjunaCapulong @ Mar 12 2008, 07:52...   Mar 11 2008, 08:23 PM
NoSex   QUOTE(brooklyneast05 @ Mar 10 2008, 07:40...   Mar 12 2008, 04:16 PM
brooklyneast05   QUOTE(NoSex @ Mar 12 2008, 04:16 PM) And,...   Mar 12 2008, 04:23 PM
NoSex   QUOTE(brooklyneast05 @ Mar 12 2008, 03:23...   Mar 12 2008, 04:54 PM
Tamacracker   QUOTE(NoSex @ Mar 12 2008, 05:16 PM) And,...   Mar 17 2008, 06:34 PM
BadCraziness   QUOTE(Tamacracker @ Mar 17 2008, 07:34 PM...   Mar 29 2008, 03:33 AM
Tamacracker   QUOTE(BadCraziness @ Mar 29 2008, 04:33 A...   Mar 29 2008, 03:38 AM
BadCraziness   QUOTE(Tamacracker @ Mar 29 2008, 04:38 AM...   Mar 29 2008, 04:01 AM
brooklyneast05   we are in agreement.   Mar 12 2008, 04:56 PM
Sulfur   What I'm trying to do is backing up religious ...   Mar 12 2008, 08:51 PM
Sulfur   But for all we know, it could still be 7 literal d...   Mar 17 2008, 09:11 PM
Tamacracker   QUOTE(Sulfur @ Mar 17 2008, 10:11 PM) But...   Mar 18 2008, 01:27 AM
BadCraziness   QUOTE(Tamacracker @ Mar 18 2008, 02:27 AM...   Mar 29 2008, 03:36 AM
Autobahn   IMO, evolution is simply another sector of science...   Mar 18 2008, 09:35 PM
BadCraziness   QUOTE(Tamacracker @ Mar 11 2008, 07:58 PM...   Mar 29 2008, 03:21 AM
ChaseTheDragon   Thats retarded. Atheism requires evolution though...   Mar 29 2008, 05:00 AM
Tamacracker   QUOTE(ChaseTheDragon @ Mar 29 2008, 06:00...   Mar 29 2008, 05:07 AM
Tamacracker   BadCraziness, can you agree that atheist derived f...   Mar 29 2008, 05:34 AM
ChaseTheDragon   QUOTE(Tamacracker @ Mar 29 2008, 05:34 AM...   Mar 29 2008, 05:40 AM
BadCraziness   QUOTE(ChaseTheDragon @ Mar 29 2008, 06:40...   Mar 29 2008, 05:51 AM
BadCraziness   QUOTE(Tamacracker @ Mar 29 2008, 06:34 AM...   Mar 29 2008, 05:40 AM
Tamacracker   QUOTE(BadCraziness @ Mar 29 2008, 06:40 A...   Mar 29 2008, 05:43 AM
ChaseTheDragon   QUOTE(Tamacracker @ Mar 29 2008, 05:43 AM...   Mar 29 2008, 05:47 AM
Tamacracker   QUOTE(ChaseTheDragon @ Mar 29 2008, 06:47...   Mar 29 2008, 05:51 AM
BadCraziness   QUOTE(Tamacracker @ Mar 29 2008, 06:51 AM...   Mar 29 2008, 06:00 AM
Tamacracker   QUOTE(BadCraziness @ Mar 29 2008, 07:00 A...   Mar 29 2008, 06:08 AM
BadCraziness   QUOTE(Tamacracker @ Mar 29 2008, 07:08 AM...   Mar 29 2008, 06:20 AM
BadCraziness   QUOTE(ChaseTheDragon @ Mar 29 2008, 06:47...   Mar 29 2008, 05:56 AM
BadCraziness   QUOTE(Tamacracker @ Mar 29 2008, 06:43 AM...   Mar 29 2008, 05:54 AM
ChaseTheDragon   QUOTE(BadCraziness @ Mar 29 2008, 05:40 A...   Mar 29 2008, 05:45 AM
BadCraziness   QUOTE(Tamacracker @ Mar 29 2008, 06:51 AM...   Mar 29 2008, 06:07 AM
NoSex   There are so many errors and absurdities in this t...   Mar 29 2008, 05:21 PM
Rhianann   QUOTE(monster @ Mar 10 2008, 05:53 PM) no...   Mar 29 2008, 05:22 PM
BadCraziness   So basically, Rhiannan, you're a deist. I use...   Apr 1 2008, 09:26 PM
PrIncEoFSeXaPpeAL   you ppl all idiot.. stopp fukin sayin tha sm...   Apr 2 2008, 08:56 AM
ersatz   There are no origins of atheism. Atheism is just t...   Apr 2 2008, 03:11 PM
PrIncEoFSeXaPpeAL   QUOTE(ersatz @ Apr 2 2008, 04:11 PM) Ther...   Apr 2 2008, 03:13 PM
Tamacracker   QUOTE(ersatz @ Apr 2 2008, 04:11 PM) Ther...   Apr 2 2008, 03:28 PM
brooklyneast05   so what were you when you were born?   Apr 2 2008, 03:31 PM
Tamacracker   QUOTE(brooklyneast05 @ Apr 2 2008, 04:31 ...   Apr 2 2008, 03:46 PM
NoSex   QUOTE(Tamacracker @ Apr 2 2008, 02:28 PM)...   Apr 2 2008, 05:14 PM
Tamacracker   QUOTE(NoSex @ Apr 2 2008, 06:14 PM) Blah ...   Apr 2 2008, 05:19 PM
NoSex   QUOTE(Tamacracker @ Apr 2 2008, 04:19 PM)...   Apr 2 2008, 08:11 PM
Tamacracker   QUOTE(NoSex @ Apr 2 2008, 09:11 PM) Not o...   Apr 3 2008, 09:33 AM
NoSex   QUOTE(Tamacracker @ Apr 3 2008, 08:33 AM)...   Apr 3 2008, 03:24 PM
Tamacracker   QUOTE(NoSex @ Apr 3 2008, 04:24 PM) How w...   Apr 3 2008, 04:35 PM
NoSex   QUOTE(Tamacracker @ Apr 3 2008, 03:35 PM)...   Apr 3 2008, 05:36 PM
Tamacracker   QUOTE(NoSex @ Apr 3 2008, 06:36 PM) Athei...   Apr 3 2008, 05:42 PM
NoSex   QUOTE(Tamacracker @ Apr 3 2008, 04:42 PM)...   Apr 3 2008, 05:50 PM
Tamacracker   QUOTE(NoSex @ Apr 3 2008, 06:50 PM) Get t...   Apr 3 2008, 06:03 PM
BadCraziness   QUOTE(Tamacracker @ Apr 3 2008, 06:42 PM)...   Apr 3 2008, 06:24 PM
Tamacracker   QUOTE(BadCraziness @ Apr 3 2008, 07:24 PM...   Apr 3 2008, 06:30 PM
BadCraziness   As for not having a reason to exist, most of us ju...   Apr 3 2008, 06:39 PM
Tamacracker   QUOTE(BadCraziness @ Apr 3 2008, 07:39 PM...   Apr 3 2008, 06:41 PM
BadCraziness   QUOTECut the shit, atheism is a choice after being...   Apr 3 2008, 05:28 PM
BadCraziness   Well, there goes my faith in the human race again.   Apr 2 2008, 10:02 PM
ersatz   You can't hold everyone accountable for readin...   Apr 3 2008, 03:07 PM
Tamacracker   QUOTE(ersatz @ Apr 3 2008, 04:07 PM) You ...   Apr 3 2008, 03:18 PM
ersatz   How does not believing in a god negate a person...   Apr 3 2008, 10:04 PM
Tungster   Wow the f**ken last 10 posts has nothing relevant ...   Apr 4 2008, 03:58 PM
Lanochka   Well my view is that if you believe in evolution t...   May 5 2008, 09:37 AM
Reidar   Evolution is the opposite of "blind chance...   May 5 2008, 03:06 PM
NoSex   QUOTE(Lanochka @ May 5 2008, 09:37 AM) Ev...   May 5 2008, 04:01 PM
Joss-eh-lime   i say no it doesnt   Jun 24 2008, 12:51 AM
CelestialAbyss   No it doesn't... because you could think of it...   Jul 23 2008, 10:57 PM
brooklyneast05   ^it would seem like the bible needs to do quite a ...   Jul 24 2008, 09:01 AM


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