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The Never Ending Debate on Prostitution
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post Mar 24 2005, 05:05 PM
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The title alone should speak for itself.

From time to time, I'll turn on my digital cable box in the midst of my insomnia to find something erotic in nature, or just downright kinky on the major movie channels. Last night, at around 2am, I flip on HBO and found myself fixated on a documentary following the business and girls of the Bunny Ranch in Nevada. I had never even heard of a legal brothel so my jaw dropped. Along with the entertainment, I went along watching this hour long show attempting to morally justify someone's pastor concealing his identity and helping out their business. Being that this country is run by the moral majority, I still tried to way the pros of a possible decriminalisation on a wider scale.

Already there are brothels run legally all over Nevada; Las Vegas (of course), Reno, Carson City, Beatty, Hawthorne, Winnemucca, Battle Mountain, Elko and Wells. If its already legal there, don't you think its just a matter of time before its legal across the country? Imagine driving up the highway and seeing whorehouses instead of XXX Megaplexes.

So, I ask all of you. Do you think its wrong? Or do you think that in this free country a woman should be allowed to sell her body for cash.
 
 
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post Mar 17 2008, 04:01 PM
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Wow, I was going to make a topic about this Steven but you beat me to it. Was just learning about this in lecture last week. Anyways. I think what Chrissy said sums up where I stand on this.

QUOTE(Tamacracker @ Mar 17 2008, 01:48 PM) *
Plus do you know the rise of STDs?... lol Cheese dick, cheese clit, drip dick, drip clit... ugh.
As to how it would become an epidemic? With prostitution (and I gotta find this government site so I can back this up) it is known that men tend to lean towards "raw/unprotected sex" I'm not saying all prostitutes have STDs but some do and some will. Same with men who are looking for a few minutes/hour of fun, they might have STDs or even HIV but who's to stop them? The woman wants money like the man wants pussy. It's mutual.

That's why it is better to legalize so we can regulate the Prostitute Business. The client and clientèle will have AID/STD checkups daily. I mean, if we don't legalize this, prostitution will still occur no matter what, and they are higher at risks for STDs because they either don't know it, or they don't care because nobody will know. Regulating the clients will make prostitution more "cleaner".

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I know prostitution has always existed... all I'm implying is, the numbers of divorces alone in a time period of a year would rise even more. Legalizing or making it easier access to getting laid when your woman is out of town, or she's on her period, or assume she's cheating would only cause a problem that could have been avoided.


I don't think it would make it easier access. I mean regardless, go to the slums or downtown. There's clients all over the streets just waiting for customers. How is that not easier access than say to regulate prostitution?


Also taxing prostitutes, would be very beneficial economically wise. There are some cities who legalize it and tax on it already, and it has helped them economically. You might say, yes prostitutes wouldn't want a share of their earnings to go to the government, but legalizing it would make it a very safer and better condition for them to work in. They get to be more professional about it, and they would get to pick their customers through a full checkup. It would decrease the number of pimps and the violence that goes around in the Prostitution business. Overall, I see some of the drawbacks, but there are way more benefits to legalizing it.
 
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post Mar 17 2008, 04:14 PM
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That's why it is better to legalize so we can regulate the Prostitute Business. The client and clientèle will have AID/STD checkups daily. I mean, if we don't legalize this, prostitution will still occur no matter what, and they are higher at risks for STDs because they either don't know it, or they don't care because nobody will know. Regulating the clients will make prostitution more "cleaner".


So basically you want the government to spend more money than it would receive in order for prostitution to be clean, legitimate, and anti-viral?

And I agree even if it wasn't legalized, prostitution is gonna exist.

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I don't think it would make it easier access. I mean regardless, go to the slums or downtown. There's clients all over the streets just waiting for customers. How is that not easier access than say to regulate prostitution?

I think it would. Easier access because people don't have to go through a mission just to talk to the prostitute to begin with. There's no worrying about under cover female cops just waitin for you to say, "how much" just to bust you and put a nasty mark on your background.

It's also easier access because if it becomes legal, it won't only exist in slums. It'll exist in any part of the country. Whether it's in high class towns, middle class, or low class. It'll be legal to exist just about anywhere. Bowling allies, clubs, bars, disney world lol...

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Also taxing prostitutes, would be very beneficial economically wise. There are some cities who legalize it and tax on it already, and it has helped them economically. You might say, yes prostitutes wouldn't want a share of their earnings to go to the government, but legalizing it would make it a very safer and better condition for them to work in.


Can you give me your source? Only place that I know of where prostitution is legal and taxed, is in Europe, well Germany. And it's not the "per sale" that's being taxed, it's the "property" tax in which houses the prostitution. On top of that, the legalization of prostitution is actually causing problems in parts of Europe, in terms of politics, they thought the people wanted legalized prostitution, but it looks like the people want it unlegalized.


Guys, the argument that not only legalizing but making people who are involved with prostitution (women and men) get tested for STDs and HIV is just ridiculous.

If you were to make every employee and customer get a 100% analytical STD/HIV test done, it would cost about $3000 per head, depending the location of course. A prostitute or a company of prostitutes is not gonna charge some loser from the slums over $3000 just for some damn head. Keep in mind that this business has to pay bills, taxes, and it's employees, while also payin for every drug test on every single employee (prostitute) and client. lol
 
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QUOTE(Tamacracker @ Mar 17 2008, 02:14 PM) *
Can you give me your source? Only place that I know of where prostitution is legal and taxed, is in Europe, well Germany. And it's not the "per sale" that's being taxed, it's the "property" tax in which houses the prostitution. On top of that, the legalization of prostitution is actually causing problems in parts of Europe, in terms of politics, they thought the people wanted legalized prostitution, but it looks like the people want it unlegalized.

There's only a couple of states, and Nevada is one of them. There are brothel houses, and they are legalized and regulated extremely. These prositutes are consider independent contractors, meaning that they don't get the label as being unemployed, or retired. Therefore, they are required to file tax to the IRS.

It's actually been studied that ever since 1986, which was when they actually started having a mandatory testing of HIV/STDS before being employed by the brothel, there was not even one single brothel house that tested positive. Then two years later of course, they had another law that required you to wear condoms, and the use of condoms were very consistent and STDS were absent.
 

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BrandonSaunders   The Never Ending Debate on Prostitution   Mar 24 2005, 05:05 PM
[Mediocre]Artist   George Carlin, "Why should it be illegal to s...   Mar 24 2005, 05:24 PM
BrandonSaunders   QUOTE([Mediocre]Artist @ Mar 24 2005...   Mar 24 2005, 05:38 PM
mzkandi   QUOTE(BrandonSaunders @ Mar 24 2005, 5:38 PM)...   Mar 24 2005, 05:41 PM
kryzcoak47luv666   QUOTE([Mediocre]Artist @ Mar 24 2005...   Apr 25 2005, 05:11 AM
Heathasm   QUOTE([Mediocre]Artist @ Mar 24 2005,...   Mar 17 2008, 05:32 PM
tungmyBANANA   QUOTE(Heathasm @ Mar 17 2008, 03:32 PM) i...   Mar 17 2008, 05:35 PM
mzkandi   i personally dont care, putting morals aside, a pe...   Mar 24 2005, 05:27 PM
OriskybusinessO   being from las vegas myself, i know that prostitut...   Mar 24 2005, 06:01 PM
BrandonSaunders   QUOTE(OriskybusinessO @ Mar 24 2005, 5:01 PM)...   Mar 24 2005, 06:10 PM
ohh_so_elektrikk<3   QUOTE(BrandonSaunders @ Mar 24 2005, 5:05 PM)...   Mar 24 2005, 06:30 PM
BrandonSaunders   QUOTE(ohh_so_elektrikk<3 @ Mar 24 2005, 5:...   Mar 24 2005, 10:28 PM
Sumiaki   Whatever it takes to make money. Imagine a world...   Mar 24 2005, 06:39 PM
sadolakced acid   if it's legal, it can be regulated. You'd...   Mar 24 2005, 11:19 PM
OriskybusinessO   oh, well i didnt know sorry, but thanks for leadin...   Mar 25 2005, 11:30 AM
BrandonSaunders   QUOTE(OriskybusinessO @ Mar 25 2005, 10:30 AM...   Mar 25 2005, 11:41 AM
OriskybusinessO   yes, there are legal brothels, but i dont see a pr...   Mar 25 2005, 11:42 AM
BrandonSaunders   QUOTE(OriskybusinessO @ Mar 25 2005, 10:42 AM...   Mar 25 2005, 11:46 AM
racoons > you   QUOTEif it's legal, it can be regulated. You...   Mar 25 2005, 12:05 PM
ohh_so_elektrikk<3   who wants kids to follow in the footsteps of prost...   Mar 25 2005, 03:51 PM
BrandonSaunders   QUOTE(ohh_so_elektrikk<3 @ Mar 25 2005, 2:...   Mar 25 2005, 03:55 PM
ohh_so_elektrikk<3   QUOTE(BrandonSaunders @ Mar 25 2005, 3:55 PM)...   Mar 25 2005, 04:00 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(ohh_so_elektrikk<3 @ Mar 25 2005, 4:...   Mar 25 2005, 04:02 PM
BrandonSaunders   QUOTE(ohh_so_elektrikk<3 @ Mar 25 2005, 3:...   Mar 25 2005, 04:05 PM
mzkandi   yes yes prostitution will become a respected profe...   Mar 25 2005, 04:15 PM
[Mediocre]Artist   QUOTE(mzkandi @ Mar 25 2005, 3:15 PM)CEO of A...   Mar 25 2005, 10:11 PM
OriskybusinessO   i dont see anything wrong with it, all the conserv...   Mar 25 2005, 07:42 PM
DizBukHahNi   Doesnt this open up the question of exploitation, ...   Mar 25 2005, 10:02 PM
Crimson_Sky   I think that's a good idea about the medical t...   Mar 26 2005, 03:42 PM
yourmydream4now   ****Regardless of if it's legal, people will a...   Apr 10 2005, 06:30 PM
tmauze   A woman selling her body to a man is quite obvious...   Apr 10 2005, 09:28 PM
BrandonSaunders   QUOTE(tmauze @ Apr 10 2005, 8:28 PM)A woman s...   Apr 11 2005, 03:44 PM
starlette   to me, as a woman, I think things like that make i...   Apr 11 2005, 03:49 PM
Frankie   i think that is wrong and down-right nasty. i thin...   Apr 11 2005, 04:58 PM
gOODpIRATE   well, people have the right to do whatever they wi...   Apr 14 2005, 12:40 AM
Weird addiction   I think it's a slutty job BUT it IS a job. If ...   Apr 14 2005, 03:56 AM
BrandonSaunders   So could ho'ing and stripping be placed in the...   Apr 14 2005, 06:38 PM
Weird addiction   QUOTE(BrandonSaunders @ Apr 15 2005, 12:38 AM...   Apr 16 2005, 04:17 AM
BrandonSaunders   QUOTE(sandra6645 @ Apr 16 2005, 3:17 AM)No...   Apr 16 2005, 09:11 AM
Weird addiction   Showing off your body isn't the same thing as ...   Apr 16 2005, 09:16 AM
BrandonSaunders   Women are objectified either way. With prostituti...   Apr 16 2005, 09:32 AM
mzkandi   QUOTE(BrandonSaunders @ Apr 16 2005, 9:32 AM)...   Apr 16 2005, 09:39 AM
Weird addiction   From the dictionary A stripper: dancer who provid...   Apr 16 2005, 09:40 AM
BrandonSaunders   QUOTE(sandra6645 @ Apr 16 2005, 8:40 AM)From ...   Apr 16 2005, 12:30 PM
Weird addiction   QUOTE(BrandonSaunders @ Apr 16 2005, 6:30 PM)...   Apr 16 2005, 12:35 PM
YoGrandpaIsFine   Psh, and they call America a free country. Yeah, r...   Apr 16 2005, 12:39 PM
sadolakced acid   prostitutes sell sex. strippers sell the alure of...   Apr 16 2005, 08:31 PM
BrandonSaunders   QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Apr 16 2005, 7:31 PM)...   Apr 16 2005, 11:31 PM
lilliannnn   i think it should be legalized. we were talking ab...   Apr 17 2005, 09:45 PM
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Weird addiction   QUOTE(BrandonSaunders @ Apr 18 2005, 3:48 AM)...   Apr 19 2005, 10:26 AM
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mzkandi   QUOTE(BrandonSaunders @ Apr 19 2005, 1:30 PM)...   Apr 19 2005, 01:45 PM
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chippy   most pros out there are mommas that r jus tryin to...   Apr 19 2005, 06:42 PM
ROARxD   its their body; they haev their own choices.   Apr 29 2005, 06:49 PM
BrandonSaunders   QUOTE(ROARxD @ Apr 29 2005, 5:49 PM)its their...   Apr 30 2005, 01:02 AM
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BrandonSaunders   Bump.   Jan 31 2008, 06:47 AM
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Steven   pimpin' ain't easy   Jan 31 2008, 10:28 AM
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xTINAA   QUOTE(Tamacracker @ Mar 17 2008, 02:27 PM...   Mar 17 2008, 03:36 PM
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