f**k No Sex Before Marriage Options

[Tung]

Honestly, the people who believe in not having sex before marriage is setting themselves for a huge risk. Why you ask? You're about to marry someone you've never had sex with, and after you're married, they are going to be your sex partner for the rest of your life.

People who say sex isn't a big deal and that important in a healthy relationship are kidding themselves. There are those who have sexual chemistry, and some who just have general personality chemistry. Also, of course you can have both. What I'm saying is that, why set yourself up for a risk and marry someone you haven't sexually experienced yet? You two could be have the best relationship and get married. However, what happens after you guys get married, and your partner totally sucks at sex? You're screwed, and stuck with that person for the rest of your life, until maybe you want a divorce. But why go through all that, and deal with the financial burden of one?

Also, it's also a good thing, to live with someone you're about to marry. Again, you're going to be with your spouse for quite some time under the same roof after you're married. I've seen too many times couples who never lived with one another, get married, and move in together for the first time. They have so much problems with living with one another.

So I say, f**k the no sex before marriage rule. Have all the sex you can get in the relationship before getting married, and know what you are getting yourself into.


edit: oops posted in wrong forums. mod move to relationship plox.

[brooklyneast05]

DING DING,
Christina WINS

[illriginal]

DING DING,
Christina WINS

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Your debates consist of like 2 sentences. Please stfu.

You're undermining the emotional aspect of sex.

No I'm not... the only emotion associated to sex is either love or lust.

So you would HAVE SEX to give birth? That's taking away pleasures from it. That's like telling a person to read a book for a class, and not enjoy it. That they should only read the book during that class, and ONLY IF they are taking that class.

Uh pretty much... Lets pretend that there's no such thing as protection nor STDs. Are you goin to have sex every time you want sex? Knowing that you could get pregnant?... You're willing to risk pregnancy just for your selfish pleasure?

Speaking of pleasure, what pleasure are we taking away from having sex just for pregnancy? It's gonna feel the same regardless. The emotion of love still exists... what's missing? Stress? I hope not.. cuz you can simply meditate for relaxation.

What's not enjoyable about having sex just to birth a child?... If you find it not enjoyable to have sex in order to bring a child into this world, then you should do yourself a favor and have your tubes tied.

And sex is all about evolution? LMAO. Darwinism is evolution. Let's not bring science into this.

Actually LETS bring science into this. The only reason why sex is needed in humans is in order for evolution to exist. In order to bring more generations, in order for the human specie to exist. Obviously you fail to understand the true concept of sex.

It may "not be" a stress reliever or a sport, but why tell people it cannot be? If it's something someone enjoys, no one should inhibit it. I'd much rather enjoy having sex than knowing that I have to have sex ONLY to conceive a child, kthx.

I never said it can't be a stress reliever. But there's other alternatives to stress relief. Again if there's no such thing as protection nor STDs... you're gonna tell me that you're willing to risk having a child just to relieve some stress? LOL

LULZ WUT? Don't stereotype us. We have morals, but it doesn't mean we're SO DIFFERENT that we can't have pre-marital sex. Oh yea and I bet you'd also say that homosexuality shouldn't happen in Asian cultures because Asians in general had more morals than this.

If the shoe fits, I can stereo type all I want. I bet right now if I was discussing this with your earlier ancestors such as your grandparents they would agree with my posts over your posts. It quite sad that I have more knowledge of your culture (mongolian) than you, for you to sit here and claim that it's fine and dandy to have pre-marital sex. People have died in your culture because of pre-marital sex.. dummy.

Oh yes and Americans are so goddamn sex crazed, they have less morality! Honestly, I'm not trying to undermine those who believe in sex AFTER marriage - it's all sweet and dandy that they choose to do so, but I dislike biased views that undermine the enjoyment of sexual pleasure.

Actually America is very highly sex crazed. Shit here in America industry leaders all know that sex sales. If they could display a naked group of women holding Mcdonald products in order to sell... they'd do it. Why? Because here in the U.S. sex is the thing right now. That's all everyone is ever thinking about. Some how some way... someone can associate sex with just about anything that exists.

Oh and please sex goddess... tell me what undermining I'm doin on the enjoyment of sexual pleasures. Because you're making it seem like I'm soooo against sex lol. Tell me what a couple that's not looking to have kids can enjoy more than a couple who are looking to have kids. Tell me the difference... maybe I'll take you serious and realize you're actually an adult, and not some horny lil middle school child.

As for being Americanized... well some (or many) of us are ________ - American. Except Steph. She's like, Asian-Hispanic-Canadian. <333 lol this could be moved to debate, BUT the topic title sucks. :P

Who gives a damn... I already see the destiny of America and it's people. You're all f**ked lol.

[Just_Dream]

No I'm not... the only emotion associated to sex is either love or lust.

You just said "sex is all about evolution", ignoring the "love" part of it. So if two people are in love, they are ONLY allowed to have sex if they consider conceiving a child?

Uh pretty much... Lets pretend that there's no such thing as protection nor STDs. Are you goin to have sex every time you want sex? Knowing that you could get pregnant?... You're willing to risk pregnancy just for your selfish pleasure?

I don't want to get pregnant. If there's no such thing as protection or STDs, yea I would still have sex.

Speaking of pleasure, what pleasure are we taking away from having sex just for pregnancy? Stress? I hope not.. cuz you can simply meditate for relaxation.

The love still exists, but you're saying that sex should only be done so in order to give birth. Now you're taking this WAY TOO FAR because sex AFTER MARRIAGE does not necessarily mean you have to have a child. I never said I have sex as a stress reliever. Rather, that you shouldn't undermine it. You can't say what sex should and shouldn't be like. You say "oh it's not supposed to be this way, but people make it this way." Yea well who are you to go out and tell people what to do? And I'm going to ASSUME YOU ARE STILL A VIRGIN only because of your answers. Anyway, sex is actually a form of relaxation. If you've had sex before, you know what I mean. I don't have sex to feel relaxed. I do it because I am in a position where I really love the person that I am with and I like the sexual pleasure from it. RELAXATION is an EFFECT of sex. At least it is for people who enjoy it. And it doesn't matter about pregnancy. Again we need to stray away from the idea of "sex can only lead to birth." That's why you're taking away the emotional pleasures. You're just like the people who say that people should get married then have sex to have children and that's it. What about the people who get married and DON'T WANT CHILDREN?!

Then you should do yourself a favor and have your tubes tied.

I don't want children, KTHX. Yea I would get my tubes tied, but I'm going to wait until "science" develops more further and it's a safer procedure. I wish I could get my tubes tied easily. It's easier and less of a risk for a man to get a vasectomy (and reversible) compared to women getting their tubes tied.

Actually LETS bring science into this. The only reason why sex is needed in humans is in order for evolution to exist. In order to bring more generations, in order for the human specie to exist. Obviously you fail to understand the true concept of sex.

Who are you to tell me what the "true concept" of sex is? I can define it however I like. We all have different perceptions of what sex is, and why we do it. Are you going to tell me that EVERYONE has sex to conceive children? If so, you're dead wrong.

It quite sad that I have more knowledge of your culture (mongolian) than you, for you to sit here and claim that it's fine and dandy to have pre-marital sex. People have died in your culture because of pre-marital sex.. dummy.

I'm NOT Mongolian, kthxbye. lol Oh please don't group me with the people who have sex with anyone they can get. It's the fact that people aren't truthful with each other, that AIDS and other fallible diseases spread. It's that people aren't using protection. Oh and if you're going to bring in "science" into this, consider children who grow up and are virgins. They get married. Then they have sex and have children, who have diseases. If you've taken Genetics, you'll know that sex passes on GENES as well that result in diseases, where people die, such as through recessive traits and percentage penetrance of such diseases. Let's not take this too far though, as these scientific tangents can confuse people.

Actually America is very hsighly sex crazed. Shit here in America industry leaders all know that sex sales
Tell me what a couple that's not looking to have kids can enjoy more than a couple who are looking to have kids.

Obviously you don't know about the crzy shit that happens in Asian or Europe. Nude beaches, pornographic magazines in VENDING MACHINES (Asia, maybe even "Mongolia"!), etc. I could care less about the sex craze of America, as I don't buy into the hype. Like I said dont' stereotype because everyone is different. Just because I'm American, you're going to say that I'm one of the people who constantly look at porn and such? Of course sex sells. When does it NOT? But so what? You're making this into a bigger deal than it really is, you know that. Yes I am saying that you seem like you're SOOO AGAINST SEX THAT DOES FOCUS ON BIRTH-GIVING.

Okay you want me to tell you wht a couple that's not looking to have kids can enjoy more? I'm going to say freedom. The freedom of having sex whenever they choose so without the inhibition of knowing that "oh yea I'm only having sex to have a child." AGAIN I ASK: What about the married couples who do NOT want children? YOu are focusing this too much on childbirth. You have such high expectations for people that you don't even understand how DIFFERENT PEOPLE HAVE DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVES.

Oh, you're "treating me" like a middle school horny child? Well then I guess I'll just treat you like an elementary school child runs the chance they hear the word "cooties!"

[illriginal]

You just said "sex is all about evolution", ignoring the "love" part of it. So if two people are in love, they are ONLY allowed to have sex if they consider conceiving a child?

I don't want to get pregnant. If there's no such thing as protection or STDs, yea I would still have sex.

The love still exists, but you're saying that sex should only be done so in order to give birth. Now you're taking this WAY TOO FAR because sex AFTER MARRIAGE does not necessarily mean you have to have a child. I never said I have sex as a stress reliever. Rather, that you shouldn't undermine it. You can't say what sex should and shouldn't be like. You say "oh it's not supposed to be this way, but people make it this way." Yea well who are you to go out and tell people what to do? And I'm going to ASSUME YOU ARE STILL A VIRGIN only because of your answers. Anyway, sex is actually a form of relaxation. If you've had sex before, you know what I mean. I don't have sex to feel relaxed. I do it because I am in a position where I really love the person that I am with and I like the sexual pleasure from it. RELAXATION is an EFFECT of sex. At least it is for people who enjoy it. And it doesn't matter about pregnancy. Again we need to stray away from the idea of "sex can only lead to birth." That's why you're taking away the emotional pleasures. You're just like the people who say that people should get married then have sex to have children and that's it. What about the people who get married and DON'T WANT CHILDREN?!

I don't want children, KTHX. Yea I would get my tubes tied, but I'm going to wait until "science" develops more further and it's a safer procedure. I wish I could get my tubes tied easily. It's easier and less of a risk for a man to get a vasectomy (and reversible) compared to women getting their tubes tied.

Who are you to tell me what the "true concept" of sex is? I can define it however I like. We all have different perceptions of what sex is, and why we do it. Are you going to tell me that EVERYONE has sex to conceive children? If so, you're dead wrong.

I'm NOT Mongolian, kthxbye. lol Oh please don't group me with the people who have sex with anyone they can get. It's the fact that people aren't truthful with each other, that AIDS and other fallible diseases spread. It's that people aren't using protection. Oh and if you're going to bring in "science" into this, consider children who grow up and are virgins. They get married. Then they have sex and have children, who have diseases. If you've taken Genetics, you'll know that sex passes on GENES as well that result in diseases, where people die, such as through recessive traits and percentage penetrance of such diseases. Let's not take this too far though, as these scientific tangents can confuse people.

Obviously you don't know about the crzy shit that happens in Asian or Europe. Nude beaches, pornographic magazines in VENDING MACHINES (Asia, maybe even "Mongolia"!), etc. I could care less about the sex craze of America, as I don't buy into the hype. Like I said dont' stereotype because everyone is different. Just because I'm American, you're going to say that I'm one of the people who constantly look at porn and such? Of course sex sells. When does it NOT? But so what? You're making this into a bigger deal than it really is, you know that. Yes I am saying that you seem like you're SOOO AGAINST SEX THAT DOES FOCUS ON BIRTH-GIVING.

Okay you want me to tell you wht a couple that's not looking to have kids can enjoy more? I'm going to say freedom. The freedom of having sex whenever they choose so without the inhibition of knowing that "oh yea I'm only having sex to have a child." AGAIN I ASK: What about the married couples who do NOT want children? YOu are focusing this too much on childbirth. You have such high expectations for people that you don't even understand how DIFFERENT PEOPLE HAVE DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVES.

Oh, you're "treating me" like a middle school horny child? Well then I guess I'll just treat you like an elementary school child runs the chance they hear the word "cooties!"

Wait... you're not even Asian yet your avatar screams Mongolian?... You're all screwed up. "kthnxbye" LOL what a child.


Anyone else have the same opinion as this person and can better explain their opinion? I think this person's angry to the point of not understanding by adding more to the argument than needs be. If that makes any sense.

[brooklyneast05]

Wait... you're not even Asian yet your avatar screams Mongolian?... You're all screwed up. "kthnxbye" LOL what a child.
Anyone else have the same opinion as this person and can better explain their opinion? I think this person's angry to the point of not understanding by adding more to the argument than needs be. If that makes any sense.

no, it doesn't make sense. she makes perfect sense. sorry :(

[illriginal]

no, it doesn't make sense. she makes perfect sense. sorry :(

Actually she's twisting and adding more to my argument.
Nor is she properly answering the questions... this looks like nothin more but rambling/ranting.

So I'll check once in a while for a proper argument against my post.