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god, part 2
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post Jun 11 2004, 11:55 PM
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post Jun 21 2004, 12:06 PM
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QUOTE(onenonly101 @ Jun 21 2004, 11:47 AM)
You might have never heard of The Ten Commandment exactly but the basic morals your p-arents or people surrounding you came from the Ten Commandment because they could've known them and realized they were basic moral ideas. Such as your parents tell you not to lie, don't make idols, rest on sunday. honor them, don't murder,don't commit adultry,don't steal, don't be jealous.

So you're saying that before the Ten Commandments people were savages and babarians who killed for pleasure and they were people who lived in decadence and enjoyed every moment of it? Are you saying that people in Asia, Mid East were all savages because they didn't know of God's laws?

I don't see how you came to that deduction, but already I see it as an incredible offense.

My father is Buddhist, and as far as I know (correct me if I'm wrong), Buddhism came before the age of Christ. The teachings of the Buddha is older than the teachings of the Bible since Buddhism came to be first.

If anything, his morality branched off of the Buddha's teachings, not those of Christ or Man who claimed to speak for the Lord.

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Oh and heathens,pagans and nonbelievers are not the same. Heathens don't go to church you can be a christian and not go to church. Pagans don't believe in God and will not go to church. Non believers aren't Christians, but that doesn't mean they don't want to believe in God.


And...? Did you wanted to clear something up?

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not that huge. They weren't blatant accusations. I see it as, if you believe in only yourself and you accomplish something well you are going to praise yourself and the act of worship is praise, so ultimatly you are worshipping yourself.

There's a difference between believing in oneself and worshipping oneself. A person who believes in his/her own worth has confidence, while a person who worships him/herself is vain and conceited, psychotic even.
According to you, when parents praise their children for a job well done, parents are worshipping their kids? I don't think that makes much sense.
The act of worship is not so simple as praise or belief, it's beyond that. Do you mean to tell me that when you worship God, all you do is believe and praise Him? Do you not love Him, honor Him, and respect Him as well? Do you not entrust your life to Him?
There is a great difference.

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What I believe is that everyone who says they don't believe there is God does too believe. The thing is they believe there is God, but they don't want to believe IN God. I don't know, what i get from ya'll is that is too easy. That you want to control your life, not God. The way I see it is that I would rather God control my life then have me control it and make bad decisions that will ultimatly question who am i and why do i get so much authority to ruin my life.


That's your own choosing to give God your control, many do not want that and you must respect their choice because they respect yours.
If I ruin my own life, then I have nothing more to say, but if my life is ruined and I believed in God, then God would be nothing more than a person who ruined my life.
 

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CEP   god   Jun 11 2004, 11:55 PM
abberdabber   this goes out to FAE.. so here ya go. **Is God al...   Jun 11 2004, 11:58 PM
ryfitaDF   QUOTE(abberdabber @ Jun 11 2004, 11:58 PM)thi...   Jun 12 2004, 12:09 AM
iheartsimba   QUOTE(abberdabber @ Jun 11 2004, 11:58 PM)thi...   Jun 12 2004, 12:19 AM
abberdabber   LoL .. Well you guys obviously didnt read back to ...   Jun 12 2004, 12:22 AM
CEP   QUOTE(abberdabber @ Jun 11 2004, 10:22 PM)LoL...   Jun 12 2004, 01:30 AM
abberdabber   * this will be the last entry submitted * fae wa...   Jun 12 2004, 01:52 AM
synkro   just wondering.. have any of you ever read the boo...   Jun 12 2004, 08:05 AM
princess2113   QUOTE(synkro @ Jun 12 2004, 8:05 AM)just wond...   Jun 12 2004, 09:00 AM
synkro   QUOTE(princess2113 @ Jun 12 2004, 9:00 AM)not...   Jun 12 2004, 09:17 AM
princess2113   QUOTE(synkro @ Jun 12 2004, 9:17 AM)what...   Jun 12 2004, 10:28 AM
CEP   QUOTE(synkro @ Jun 12 2004, 6:05 AM)just wond...   Jun 12 2004, 10:40 AM
IIO__oII   u guys should read MERE CHRISTIANITY.. =] PS...ch...   Jun 12 2004, 11:53 AM
GinaDaQueen   I haven't really read the other topic but from...   Jun 12 2004, 02:21 PM
easilyxamusedx   nicely said.   Jun 12 2004, 02:29 PM
DisneyPrincessKate   I honestly don't see how you can't believe...   Jun 12 2004, 02:31 PM
CrimsonArchangel   QUOTE(GinaDaQueen @ Jun 12 2004, 2:21 PM)I ha...   Jun 12 2004, 03:17 PM
synkro   it wasn't a question whether the book was true...   Jun 12 2004, 06:27 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(abberdabber @ Jun 11 2004, 11:58 PM)gos...   Jun 12 2004, 07:16 PM
machinoman   I just saw Saved! and it was great. "Jes...   Jun 13 2004, 02:56 AM
abberdabber   [QUOTE=uninspiredfae,Jun 12 2004, 7:16 PM] Just ...   Jun 13 2004, 03:47 AM
Spirited Away   So things that you speak from the heart comes fro...   Jun 13 2004, 10:15 AM
princess2113   alrite u want us to give u OUR knowledge, but we ...   Jun 13 2004, 10:35 AM
sadolakced acid   i have a question for all you christians out there...   Jun 13 2004, 02:14 PM
abberdabber   alright i jacked it up again, i answered at two di...   Jun 13 2004, 03:13 PM
abberdabber   .QUOTEYou mean God will right the wrongs done to C...   Jun 13 2004, 04:13 PM
IIO__oII   YAY fresh and new! no more scrolling thru 50+ ...   Jun 13 2004, 04:39 PM
abberdabber   yea i know, its a whole lot better than before...   Jun 13 2004, 05:23 PM
princess2113   wait to answer that other persons ??....Creation d...   Jun 13 2004, 08:40 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(princess2113 @ Jun 13 2004, 10:35 AM)al...   Jun 13 2004, 09:05 PM
Spirited Away   First of all, sorry for double posting. That...   Jun 13 2004, 09:47 PM
princess2113   second-hand knowledge???? u trust ur history book...   Jun 13 2004, 10:01 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(princess2113 @ Jun 13 2004, 10:01 PM)u ...   Jun 13 2004, 10:06 PM
abberdabber   Fae, are you sure thats the reason you continue to...   Jun 13 2004, 10:06 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(abberdabber @ Jun 13 2004, 10:06 PM)Fae...   Jun 13 2004, 10:14 PM
DisneyPrincessKate   You guys are so nit-picky and technical. The impo...   Jun 13 2004, 10:42 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(DisneyPrincessKate @ Jun 13 2004, 10:42...   Jun 13 2004, 10:49 PM
princess2113   QUOTE(uninspiredfae @ Jun 13 2004, 10:06 PM)W...   Jun 13 2004, 10:59 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(princess2113 @ Jun 13 2004, 10:59 PM)...   Jun 13 2004, 11:05 PM
abberdabber   QUOTEHow have you suffered persecution for your be...   Jun 13 2004, 11:06 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(abberdabber @ Jun 13 2004, 11:06 PM)Fae...   Jun 13 2004, 11:19 PM
sadolakced acid   sure, christians shouldn't be persecuted for w...   Jun 13 2004, 11:46 PM
ryfitaDF   QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Jun 13 2004, 11:46 PM...   Jun 14 2004, 12:02 AM
abberdabber   Fae, ive been reading through the last few posts o...   Jun 14 2004, 02:25 AM
synkro   i find it interesting that when we say "god...   Jun 14 2004, 04:54 AM
DisneyPrincessKate   QUOTE(uninspiredfae @ Jun 13 2004, 11:49 PM)W...   Jun 14 2004, 09:43 AM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(abberdabber @ Jun 14 2004, 2:25 AM)Fae,...   Jun 14 2004, 10:25 AM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(synkro @ Jun 14 2004, 4:54 AM)i find it...   Jun 14 2004, 10:34 AM
synkro   QUOTEBut since everyone has been saying that God w...   Jun 14 2004, 10:42 AM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(synkro @ Jun 14 2004, 10:42 AM)you may ...   Jun 14 2004, 10:54 AM
synkro   QUOTE(uninspiredfae @ Jun 14 2004, 10:54 AM)I...   Jun 14 2004, 10:58 AM
IIO__oII   QUOTEWhy believe in something I cannot see, when I...   Jun 14 2004, 04:37 PM
ryfitaDF   i'm cool with anyone, believer or not.   Jun 14 2004, 05:54 PM
CrimsonArchangel   QUOTE(uninspiredfae @ Jun 13 2004, 11:05 PM)G...   Jun 14 2004, 07:20 PM
CrimsonArchangel   QUOTE(uninspiredfae @ Jun 14 2004, 10:25 AM)H...   Jun 14 2004, 07:34 PM
IIO__oII   QUOTEI know many don't like quotings of the Bi...   Jun 14 2004, 08:59 PM
ryfitaDF   what about all the revisions of the bible? you may...   Jun 14 2004, 09:18 PM
CrimsonArchangel   QUOTE(ryfitaDF @ Jun 14 2004, 9:18 PM)what ab...   Jun 15 2004, 06:40 AM
Retrogressive   i used to be a very strong christian, i even had a...   Jun 16 2004, 04:40 PM
Yemmerz   QUOTE(ryfitaDF @ Jun 14 2004, 10:18 PM)what a...   Jun 16 2004, 04:46 PM
JlIaTMK   im christian and i personally dont believe so much...   Jun 16 2004, 08:55 PM
shawty_redd   QUOTE(Yemmerz @ Jun 16 2004, 3:46 PM)It does,...   Jun 16 2004, 10:47 PM
ryfitaDF   QUOTE(shawty_redd @ Jun 16 2004, 10:47 PM)so ...   Jun 17 2004, 02:01 AM
CrimsonArchangel   QUOTE(ryfitaDF @ Jun 17 2004, 2:01 AM)yes. i ...   Jun 17 2004, 09:14 AM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(CrimsonArchangel @ Jun 17 2004, 9:14 AM...   Jun 17 2004, 09:39 AM
CrimsonArchangel   QUOTE(uninspiredfae @ Jun 17 2004, 9:39 AM)I ...   Jun 17 2004, 10:46 AM
Spirited Away   Here you go (<--about midrash).   Jun 17 2004, 10:51 AM
CrimsonArchangel   QUOTE(uninspiredfae @ Jun 17 2004, 10:51 AM)H...   Jun 17 2004, 10:56 AM
ryfitaDF   QUOTE(loseronaisle5 @ Jun 16 2004, 4:40 PM)bu...   Jun 17 2004, 02:12 PM
IIO__oII   QUOTEf i believed in god i wouldn't think he h...   Jun 17 2004, 03:38 PM
onenonly101   QUOTEi don't want to believe in a god who does...   Jun 18 2004, 03:59 PM
Gypsy Eyes   Personally, I dont believe in god. I honestly thin...   Jun 18 2004, 05:56 PM
ryfitaDF   QUOTE(Gypsy Eyes @ Jun 18 2004, 5:56 PM)Perso...   Jun 19 2004, 12:31 AM
kryogenix   QUOTE(Gypsy Eyes @ Jun 18 2004, 5:56 PM)Perso...   Jun 19 2004, 07:43 AM
ryfitaDF   QUOTE-Evolution is as much as a theory as the stor...   Jun 19 2004, 11:05 AM
onenonly101   QUOTE(Gypsy Eyes @ Jun 18 2004, 5:56 PM)Perso...   Jun 19 2004, 11:49 AM
ryfitaDF   QUOTE(onenonly101 @ Jun 19 2004, 11:49 AM)The...   Jun 19 2004, 12:56 PM
onenonly101   but didn't you say you believe in your self? t...   Jun 19 2004, 04:04 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(onenonly101 @ Jun 19 2004, 11:49 AM)Fir...   Jun 19 2004, 04:20 PM
CrimsonArchangel   QUOTE(ryfitaDF @ Jun 19 2004, 12:56 PM)then w...   Jun 19 2004, 09:30 PM
Lena   QUOTE(onenonly101 @ Jun 19 2004, 4:04 PM)but ...   Jun 19 2004, 10:06 PM
CrimsonArchangel   QUOTE(Lena @ Jun 19 2004, 10:06 PM)CrimsonArc...   Jun 19 2004, 11:01 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTEThen I ask you...who created the so called cr...   Jun 20 2004, 01:36 AM
Gypsy Eyes   QUOTE(CrimsonArchangel @ Jun 19 2004, 9:30 PM...   Jun 20 2004, 01:49 PM
CrimsonArchangel   QUOTE(Gypsy Eyes @ Jun 20 2004, 1:49 PM)Lamb ...   Jun 20 2004, 03:28 PM
ryfitaDF   QUOTE(CrimsonArchangel @ Jun 20 2004, 3:28 PM...   Jun 20 2004, 03:53 PM
CrimsonArchangel   QUOTE(ryfitaDF @ Jun 20 2004, 3:53 PM)why not...   Jun 20 2004, 04:00 PM
onenonly101   QUOTEI've never heard of the Ten Commandments ...   Jun 21 2004, 11:47 AM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(onenonly101 @ Jun 21 2004, 11:47 AM)You...   Jun 21 2004, 12:06 PM
onenonly101   QUOTESo you're saying that before the Ten Comm...   Jun 21 2004, 12:35 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(onenonly101 @ Jun 21 2004, 12:35 PM)I d...   Jun 21 2004, 12:44 PM
IIO__oII   QUOTEIf trusting God makes my life easier were tru...   Jun 21 2004, 03:55 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(IIO__oII @ Jun 21 2004, 3:55 PM)maybe i...   Jun 21 2004, 04:35 PM
IIO__oII   QUOTEi don't get you. first you say that Chri...   Jun 21 2004, 05:42 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(IIO__oII @ Jun 21 2004, 5:42 PM)err.. w...   Jun 21 2004, 05:47 PM
ComradeRed   How will you spend eternity? Smoking or non-smokin...   Jun 21 2004, 08:15 PM
ryfitaDF   raise your fist in the air. DRUG FREE!   Jun 22 2004, 01:01 AM
stryker76   Yeah i have to agree the christains do suffer more...   Jun 22 2004, 06:10 AM
onenonly101   i don't know if this is what princess and iio_...   Jun 22 2004, 10:13 AM
Beyond Elite   oh my. People are crazy about this topic huh?   Jun 22 2004, 10:44 AM
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