Is Beauty Really In the Eye of The Beholder?, What do you think? Options

[Dreamers]

Feel free to move it if it's in the wrong forum.


Well, anyway, what do you guys think? (This is meant to be a friendly debate, by the way)

Is beauty REALLY in the eyes of the beholder?

I mean, science talks of all these features considered attractive ona woman like waist-hip-ratios of 0.7, and men being tall, and everyone having smooth skin, but is that really all true?

Is that stuff required to be beautiful?

In my opinion, no. Beauty really is in the eyes of the beholder, and I think one can see someone as beautiful, even if they have all the features that are considered ugly. It just depends on the person.

People are constantly swooning over, oh, Ionno, Rihanna and the typical Brad Pitt, but honestly I don't find either one extremely attractive. Then I see an average, or maybe even below-average guy on the street and I'm like, 'Wow, he's cute! '

So, that's my opinion onit. Is there anyone who doesn't believe in the phrase?

Or others who do?

[*Steven*]

Yes. I like Asian people. Some people think Asian people are ugly. Some people like fat chicks. Some people like big butts and they can not lie.

[weed]

Some people like big butts and they can not lie.

that was hilarious.

Whats to say beauty is not in the eye of the beholder, i think that when it comes to being attracted to someone everyone is different. As steven made clear, different people like different things. I don't believe in science when it comes to matters of the heart.

Statistics wont tell anyone what they like and what they don't, i think its a matter of personality, and the kind of person you are.

[Reidar]

that was hilarious.

Whats to say beauty is not in the eye of the beholder, i think that when it comes to being attracted to someone everyone is different.

That's completely different. What makes you attracted to someone is your individual insight of the person's qualities. You may perceive someone as being attractive while another person may not, but the concept of what beauty is characterized by is an objective reality. The difference would be that the other person isn't appealed by that beauty in the same instances as you are.

Immanuel Kant exemplified it by distinguishing between mere "taste" and actual "beauty". By using those synonymously, "he judges not merely for himself, but for everyone, and speaks of beauty as if it were a property of things."

[NoSex]

That's completely different. What makes you attracted to someone is your individual insight of the person's qualities. You may perceive someone as being attractive while another person may not, but the concept of what beauty is characterized by is an objective reality. The difference would be that the other person isn't appealed by that beauty in the same instances as you are.

What objective reality is that? Beauty is merely an invention of the human mind in a reflection of sentiment. The quality does not truly exist. If you ask the question, "Is this beautiful?" you're really asking a meaningless question. You might as well just ask, "Does this appeal to you?" The answer to both questions is entirely subjective, based on the sentiment and feelings of the individual and not determined by the essence of the object itself. Though the object will have an effect on the individual, that effect gives no measurable information on the supposed quality of "beauty." In a more deterministic sense, beauty is merely the sum of our past experience and our biology... it is not within the essence of an object itself.