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[dowhead]

Hey everyone,

In this forum, there is a lot of talk about weather God is real or fake, and which religion is the right one. Some are just discussions, and I completely understand. For the record, I am a Christian myself.

I am somewhat frustrated by the fact that that some of my fellow Christians are not able to defend their faith. I am seeing many posts like, "I am a Christian, and God is real." The end.
I would like to remind you that with this answer coming up over and over again, we are not proving anything. I feel that if I were not a Christian, I would be frustrated because no one was proving to me why God is real and the only way. I would feel like "the Christian" asked for a fight, but cannot finish it.

Here is what I propose:
I feel that if you are a Christian and would like to get into a debate about religion, go right ahead. But you need to know every question, answer and reaction that will occur from both sides. It is hard to debate with a non-Christian and personally, I believe that if the non-Christian is stubborn about his beliefs, he or she will not change their ways no matter what anyone says. I would like to advise my Christian friends that we need to be prepared to finish a fight if you would like to get into one.

I am a senior in a Christian high school and we have Bible class. This year we are studying Apologetics as well as world religions and cults. I have learned so much from Apologetics class. Our textbook was a book called: "Defending Your Faith" by Dan Story. I would recommend every Christian to read this book. It helps you not be wavered from Christ by worldly views and things you hear. I learned how to defend my faith for my good. It is an amazing book.

I am sorry if I offended any of you. I am not telling you what you should do, I am advising you though my opinions. You may choose what you like.

Thank you very much. I appreciate you all.

Michelle

[Kontroll]

Haha, religious battles. OFF THE WALL, SON! Everyone in this thread is being stupid. Instead of defending, you insult and attack others. What does this show? Weakness. I understand that we aren't scholars, but we have some pretty useful tools for our personal use. Check 'em out.

Christianity, though I no longer follow, is a wierd religion. It's not something you can read one thing about and be able to understand it. People tend to do this when it comes to debate. They will read something out of context and pride themselves in discriminating against one another.

I don't know much about religion. I grew up as a Christian. It's not for me, at least not right now. Reasons being I don't understand. I'm not going to follow something which is a faith oriented organization if I do not believe. But I understand it enough to see when people don't know what they're talking about.

For instance... Tamacracker... the Torah is apart of the Bible. It's the books of law. Where are the holes in the Bible? What do parables have to do with anything? They are merely stories written for Christians and meant to only be useful and understood by Christians. That's why they are in the Christian Bible. And not all people are moved by evidence. If that were the case, then religion would be dead. Except for those who force it upon others.

And correct me if I'm wrong....

Like someone else mentioned, apologetics is nothin but shit. The people want cold hard facts, not fantasies of a religion who base their faith on a prophet, who was HUMAN... nothin else. =\

Aren't you a Muslim?

The Bible is not meant to fully be taken literally. There are some parts that are history, law, allegories, PARABLES, and such.

[illriginal]

For instance... Tamacracker... the Torah is apart of the Bible. It's the books of law. Where are the holes in the Bible?

Right, the Torah is the Old Testament, not the New Testament, the New Testament is blasphemous. No other religion agrees with the New Testament, only the existence of their Prophets, not the historical events of the New Testament's Prophets.

What do parables have to do with anything? They are merely stories written for Christians and meant to only be useful and understood by Christians. That's why they are in the Christian Bible. And not all people are moved by evidence. If that were the case, then religion would be dead. Except for those who force it upon others.

Right... that's why it's not meant to be taken literally. Like... at all.

And correct me if I'm wrong....
Aren't you a Muslim?

Meh... more like a Pantheist.
Just in case you don't know what that is:
Pantheism - the doctrine or belief that God is the universe and its phenomena (taken or conceived of as a whole) or the doctrine that regards the universe as a manifestation of God

The Bible is not meant to fully be taken literally. There are some parts that are history, law, allegories, PARABLES, and such.

Right... Thus is why cross referencing is always best in order to know what's authentic or not.

[Kontroll]

Right, the Torah is the Old Testament, not the New Testament, the New Testament is blasphemous. No other religion agrees with the New Testament, only the existence of their Prophets, not the historical events of the New Testament's Prophets.

It's apart of the Old Testament. It's only a few books. How is the New Testament blasphemous? It consists of nothing that speaks wrongly of God. There are events in the New Testament that were prophecized in the Old Testament.

Right... that's why it's not meant to be taken literally. Like... at all.

Alright, I'm clearly not going to be of any help persuading you that the Bible is not always literal. So, I'm not even gonna try.

[illriginal]

It's apart of the Old Testament. It's only a few books. How is the New Testament blasphemous? It consists of nothing that speaks wrongly of God. There are events in the New Testament that were prophecized in the Old Testament.

Yes it does... It kills the Original and only God and replaces God with a Prophet by the name of Jesus Christ in the form of a trinity.

No other religion believes in this... this can't even be cross referenced with any other religion, other than the religion of the Ancient Egyptians. The story of the trinity, is nothin more but a copy off of the religion of the Ancient Egyptians. Waaay before the existence of Jesus. And who else would have that knowledge prior to Jesus existence? The Jews. And what did the Jews and the Romans do to the holy scriptures of Jesus Christ? They created a Newer Testament which was based on Ancient Egyptian mythology.

But don't take my word for it, I could just be some sort of wacko nut job for all we know. Just do your research on history, you'll learn a lot. :P

[Kontroll]

Yes it does... It kills the Original and only God and replaces God with a Prophet by the name of Jesus Christ in the form of a trinity.

No other religion believes in this... this can't even be cross referenced with any other religion, other than the religion of the Ancient Egyptians. The story of the trinity, is nothin more but a copy off of the religion of the Ancient Egyptians. Waaay before the existence of Jesus. And who else would have that knowledge prior to Jesus existence? The Jews. And what did the Jews and the Romans do to the holy scriptures of Jesus Christ? They created a Newer Testament which was based on Ancient Egyptian mythology.

But don't take my word for it, I could just be some sort of wacko nut job for all we know. Just do your research on history, you'll learn a lot. :P

"There have been described in the Old Testament 300 prophecies of the first coming of the Messiah and 500 of the second coming, all of then made hundreds of years before the birth of Jesus and fulfilled to the letter in Jesus Christ, the Messiah."

Jesus was born of Virgin Mary without any man involved in His conception (Is.7:14, Mat.1:23, Lk.1:27).

See, one thing that you're missing is that just because other religions don't follow it doesn't make it false. There are two distince sections in the Christian Doctrine. That of the Old Testament and that of the New Testament. Imagine if Jesus had been born and the only Bible that was to be published was just the Old Testament. It was be a work unfinished. Jesus is obviously mentioned in the Old Testament.

And would you care to mention what those ancient Egyptian mythologies are?

[illriginal]

And would you care to mention what those ancient Egyptian mythologies are?

Horus.

I never said that Jesus was NOT the Messiah. That is the "WORLD's" savior... And Jesus isn't God.

[Kontroll]

For real. Religious debates are pointless. There's nothing to prove or disprove. But some people can't let it go.

Horus.

I never said that Jesus was NOT the Messiah. That is the "WORLD's" savior... And Jesus isn't God.

Jesus is God incarnate.

"Christians believe that prophecies in the Hebrew Bible refer to a spiritual savior, and consider Jesus to be that Messiah (Christ)."

Who else in the Bible would be called Messiah[The Anointed One]?

[illriginal]

For real. Religious debates are pointless. There's nothing to prove or disprove. But some people can't let it go.
Jesus is God incarnate.

There's no proof. At most, it's just a Christian mythology. Sorry man =\