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Don't Understand Islam? Study The Truth Of Islam, Islam 101
illriginal
post Sep 5 2006, 07:36 PM
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******ISLAM 101******

What is the meaning/purpose of life?

And I have not created the jinn and the men but that they may worship me. No Sustenance do I require of them, nor do I require that they should feed Me. For God is He Who gives all Sustenance, - Lord of Power, - Steadfast for ever. (Qur'an 51:54-58)

Intro

A reminder

Trials in life

The Woman: a Parable

What do Muslims believe?

Monotheism

La ilaha il-la Allah

The meaning of God

Believing in One God

The Muslim creed

The Muslim creed, detailed

Understanding the Miracles and the Messengers

The Seal of the Prophets (pbuh)

Biography

Video Bio

Another video bio

Common deceptions

An analytical view

Miracles

Prophecies 1

Prophecies 2

Prophecies 3

Science 1

Science 2

Science 3

More signs of the times

More prophecies

Major signs, including how to identify the Anti-Christ

The Qur'an: its miracles and preservation

How was the Qur'an Preserved?

History of the Qur'an

Differences between the Bible and the Qur'an

Nine more of the above

About the concept of preservation

Why do Muslims no longer use the "Torah" and "Bible"?

Why do Muslims use the Qur'an?

What is a miracle?

Eight scientific proofs that the Qur'an is the word of God

Other Miracles of the Qur'an

More of the above

Plagiarism Refuted

Jesus in Islam

Jesus, Prophet of Islam

Jesus in Islam, a summary

Islamic view on Jesus (pbuh) and Trinitarianism

Jesus' (pbuh) second coming as outlined in Islam

Islam and the Trinity

What is Jihad?

What is Jihad?

Repentence

Repentence 2

Why do YOU believe what you do?

Some favourite quotations

Using the right methodology

A Rational Approach to Seeking Truth

A Direct Approach

Why do we NEED religion?

Divine Decree

Part 1

Part 2

Part 3

Common Logical Traps!

Pharaoh's error

Satan's error

Other Fallacies


Ramadan

What Is Your Objective in Ramadan?

Review Your Priorities in Ramadan

Ramadan and Fasting

Ramadan: Month of Piety and Purity

Ramadan and Change

Ramadan and Healthy Eating

Invalidators of Fasting

Ramadan Scale- QUIZ
Use the Quiz to evaluate the last Ramdan, to set your goals for this one :)

Ramadan Around The World

Muslims Condemns Terrorism




PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE just discuss, don't convert, don't argue, don't bash. :)


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Why did Muhammad marry a little girl?
 
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post Feb 21 2008, 11:13 PM
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QUOTE(kryogenix @ Feb 21 2008, 10:53 PM) *
Why did Muhammad marry a little girl?

There is no specific reason. There's a reason why I posted the links in this thread. I am not the best person to ask specific questions in regards to Islam.

Why do Jews marry little girls?

Why did/do Catholics marry little girls?

Why did/do Christians marry little girls?

Why do Buddhist families engage their children and have them move to either the girl's or boy's home?

Why do Hindu families marry off their daughters to nearly any aged male as soon as she hits puberty?

I rest my case.


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By the way a lot of Arabs/Muslims find me attractive so I know what they like. Young looking girls with pale skin.



Pfffft...

Reality check... White girls are the thing of the past, this isn't the 90's sweety. Get over yourself lol
 
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post Feb 21 2008, 11:46 PM
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So you don't know why your great prophet married a little girl? Doesn't this bother you enough to at least have looked into it on your own, rather than trusting that the info is out there?
 
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post Feb 21 2008, 11:47 PM
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So you don't know why your great prophet married a little girl? Doesn't this bother you enough to at least have looked into it on your own, rather than trusting that the info is out there?


-.- It's old tradition... Ancient tradition, even the Ancient Egyptians married off their children. So did your ancestors, Mongolian (forgive me for assuming you're Asian if I'm wrong).

I go by MY Qur'an not "info that is out there"

And I'm Sunni.
 
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QUOTE(Tamacracker @ Feb 21 2008, 11:47 PM) *
-.- It's old tradition... Ancient tradition, even the Ancient Egyptians married off their children. So did your ancestors, Mongolian (forgive me for assuming you're Asian if I'm wrong).

I go by MY Qur'an not "info that is out there"

And I'm Sunni.


So back then, was it acceptable in Islam to marry a girl of that age? But the rule changed?

I don't know any of my ancestors that married and lived with someone before puberty. And I'm pretty sure none of my ancestors claimed to be prophets or started their own religions.

How many different versions of the Koran are there? Different sects? I'm asking because I get different answers from different Muslims. Is there an Islamic equivalent to the Pope? If not, where do you place authority for the beliefs? Is the Koran inerrant?

Sorry for all the questions. "I don't know" is an acceptable answer, but for your sake, I hope that if it is your answer, you find out the truth.
 
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QUOTE(kryogenix @ Feb 22 2008, 01:14 AM) *
So back then, was it acceptable in Islam to marry a girl of that age? But the rule changed?

Yes it was acceptable but Islam wasn't the only belief system either, so you can't single them out. As for the rule changing, yeah you can say that, it's a tradition in which is slowly being phased out.

But so are all the other belief systems, so again... the rule didn't change just for Islam.

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I don't know any of my ancestors that married and lived with someone before puberty. And I'm pretty sure none of my ancestors claimed to be prophets or started their own religions.


I'm a pretty big history buff, I know my historical events pretty well.

I don't think you understand what's the point of religion. The reason why religion exist is because these were people who spread the teachings of God. Religion is just a label for a group of followers of God.

Religion wasn't meant to be used to create wars, to force teachings, or what have you. It was just meant to keep the word of God alive.

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How many different versions of the Koran are there? Different sects? I'm asking because I get different answers from different Muslims. Is there an Islamic equivalent to the Pope? If not, where do you place authority for the beliefs? Is the Koran inerrant?


There's legitimately only two versions of the Qur'an. The Sunni version and the Shia version. Which answers the question, "how many sects of Islam is there?" There's specifically only 2 sects in the root of Islam. But then there's the Westernized branches of these two sects which most of the time is blasphemous.

If you'd like to know the differences between the two.. it's a bit long, I really don't know how to sum that up as for every bit of detail in the differences has to be laid down to fully understand. I would recommend you read this if you're interested: http://www.ansar.org/english/fiqh.htm

There's no such thing as a higher being on earth who can speak to God such as the Catholic pope. Only prophets could speak to God and hear God at any given time.

Popes only exist for one thing and one thing only, to control the people with "religious politics". Nothing more, nothing less.

The true authority of Islam is the word of God via the Qur'an.

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Sorry for all the questions. "I don't know" is an acceptable answer, but for your sake, I hope that if it is your answer, you find out the truth.


These were pretty simple questions actually. Hope you understood my answers.
 
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QUOTE(Tamacracker @ Feb 22 2008, 01:34 AM) *
Yes it was acceptable but Islam wasn't the only belief system either, so you can't single them out. As for the rule changing, yeah you can say that, it's a tradition in which is slowly being phased out.

But so are all the other belief systems, so again... the rule didn't change just for Islam.


As I understand, this stuff is still in practice in Africa and the Middle East.

The difference between other belief systems is that I don't think the founder of other religions married young girls. I don't think Abraham did. I don't think Jesus did. I don't think Siddharta Gautama did.

By who's authority was this practice changed?

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I'm a pretty big history buff, I know my historical events pretty well.

I don't think you understand what's the point of religion. The reason why religion exist is because these were people who spread the teachings of God. Religion is just a label for a group of followers of God.

Religion wasn't meant to be used to create wars, to force teachings, or what have you. It was just meant to keep the word of God alive.


How does one know they are following the right religion?

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There's legitimately only two versions of the Qur'an. The Sunni version and the Shia version. Which answers the question, "how many sects of Islam is there?" There's specifically only 2 sects in the root of Islam. But then there's the Westernized branches of these two sects which most of the time is blasphemous.

If you'd like to know the differences between the two.. it's a bit long, I really don't know how to sum that up as for every bit of detail in the differences has to be laid down to fully understand. I would recommend you read this if you're interested: http://www.ansar.org/english/fiqh.htm

There's no such thing as a higher being on earth who can speak to God such as the Catholic pope. Only prophets could speak to God and hear God at any given time.


Where do Sunnis place their authority? Where do Shiites place their authority? If they place their authority in the same place, why do they have distinct beliefs?

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Popes only exist for one thing and one thing only, to control the people with "religious politics". Nothing more, nothing less.


What about Imams? Do they not control people with religious politics? What is your opinion on the Dalai Lama?

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The true authority of Islam is the word of God via the Qur'an.
These were pretty simple questions actually. Hope you understood my answers.


Thanks for the answers.
 

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