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Rehabilitation or Retribution, Our criminal justice system.
MissHygienic
post Feb 1 2008, 07:09 PM
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Which one should we focus on more in our criminal justice system? Basically, which one would serve as a satisfactory/fitting punishment for prisoners?
 
 
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post Feb 12 2008, 12:49 AM
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What are you talking about? Of course you can write it off. You're using the logic that since Norway + Five Star Hotel prison system = good prisoners, then America + Five Star Hotel prison system = good prisoners. The problem with that logic is that America != Norway, and that's EXACTLY why you can write it off as a system that will not work if implemented now.

Did I SAY it should be implemented now? No. I've read the whole debate, that argument is going to lead us in circles. I'm merely suggesting that if one DIFFERENT country's system can be considered, so can another's.

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Oh great, so instead of spending money on one unjust thing, you'll spend it on another unjust thing.

You wanna reduce spending? Stop the war, don't even think about implementing bullshit universal healthcare, stop the inefficient bullshit programs and overall, shrink the government.

The government needs to stop taking half of our f**king income.

PRO-TIP: The poverty line is different from country to country. If the government wants to reduce the poverty rate, they can lower the poverty line like every other country. When you can own 2 TV sets and still be considered in poverty, the poverty line is too high. Jumping to unfounded conclusions at everything I say is an awfully tacky way to debate. (Which is not to say that you cannot debate. I know you can, and I wouldn't be that presumptuous.)

Not to mention, it's not the government's responsibility to put food on your plate, beggar.

That was a) just a side note. And b) referring to one thing, and one thing alone. I hardly meant to discuss the realignment of our socio-economic system in one sentence.

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Are you saying we should get rid of all minorities and make a nearly 100% white state? You racist pig.

I didn't even suggest that in the least. Is jumping to absurd conclusions really the best sort of argument you've got?
 
kryogenix
post Feb 12 2008, 12:56 AM
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QUOTE(paperplane @ Feb 12 2008, 12:49 AM) *
Did I SAY it should be implemented now? No. I've read the whole debate, that argument is going to lead us in circles. I'm merely suggesting that if one DIFFERENT country's system can be considered, so can another's.


It WAS considered, and it was decided that it would blow chunks out of a polar bear's asscrack if it was implemented here.

Move on.


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I didn't even suggest that in the least. Is jumping to absurd conclusions really the best sort of argument you've got?

If you can jump to shitty conclusions, I will too.
 

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MissHygienic   Rehabilitation or Retribution   Feb 1 2008, 07:09 PM
Steven   If we can only focus on one? Retribution.   Feb 1 2008, 07:29 PM
ersatz   I personally feel better mentally about rehabilita...   Feb 2 2008, 01:35 AM
BrandonSaunders   QUOTE(ersatz @ Feb 2 2008, 12:35 AM) I pe...   Feb 2 2008, 03:12 AM
IGetSex   QUOTE(ersatz @ Feb 2 2008, 01:35 AM) I pe...   Feb 2 2008, 12:23 PM
ersatz   No...I was referring to the individual's. That...   Feb 2 2008, 10:45 AM
NoSex   QUOTE(BrandonSaunders @ Feb 2 2008, 02:12...   Feb 2 2008, 06:42 PM
IGetSex   QUOTE(NoSex @ Feb 2 2008, 06:42 PM) Why? ...   Feb 2 2008, 10:27 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(NoSex @ Feb 2 2008, 05:42 PM) Why? ...   Feb 5 2008, 02:48 PM
ersatz   QUOTE(Spirited Away @ Feb 5 2008, 01:48 P...   Feb 10 2008, 12:18 AM
BrandonSaunders   QUOTE(ersatz @ Feb 9 2008, 11:18 PM) Well...   Feb 10 2008, 01:27 AM
ersatz   QUOTE(BrandonSaunders @ Feb 10 2008, 12:2...   Feb 10 2008, 05:11 PM
Steven   QUOTE(ersatz @ Feb 10 2008, 04:11 PM) I w...   Feb 10 2008, 05:57 PM
BrandonSaunders   QUOTE(Steven @ Feb 10 2008, 04:57 PM) It...   Feb 10 2008, 06:17 PM
SoEffinMajor   QUOTE(MissHygienic @ Feb 1 2008, 07:09 PM...   Feb 3 2008, 11:47 PM
IGetSex   QUOTE(SoEffinMajor @ Feb 3 2008, 11:47 PM...   Feb 4 2008, 01:49 AM
SoEffinMajor   QUOTE(IGetSex @ Feb 4 2008, 01:49 AM) Wel...   Feb 4 2008, 12:03 PM
IGetSex   QUOTE(SoEffinMajor @ Feb 4 2008, 12:03 PM...   Feb 5 2008, 08:20 AM
resplendence   QUOTE(SoEffinMajor @ Feb 3 2008, 11:47 PM...   Feb 5 2008, 10:05 AM
NoSex   QUOTE(resplendence @ Feb 5 2008, 09:05 AM...   Feb 5 2008, 11:59 AM
resplendence   ^Are we in Norway? No. So refrain from calling me...   Feb 5 2008, 12:01 PM
NoSex   QUOTE(resplendence @ Feb 5 2008, 11:01 AM...   Feb 5 2008, 12:28 PM
resplendence   I did read it. I was stating my opinion. Just beca...   Feb 5 2008, 02:20 PM
B-NOX   what a long text   Feb 5 2008, 03:36 PM
BrandonSaunders   This topic is rather broad. Its a little difficult...   Feb 9 2008, 09:18 AM
kryogenix   Norway? More like NorGAY.   Feb 10 2008, 02:03 AM
ersatz   It's a matter of treating people a certain way...   Feb 11 2008, 04:14 PM
Steven   QUOTE(ersatz @ Feb 11 2008, 03:14 PM) It...   Feb 11 2008, 04:46 PM
kryogenix   Send all the ghetto gangsters to Norwegian prisons...   Feb 11 2008, 04:32 PM
NoSex   Granted the society in Norway is different, as a w...   Feb 11 2008, 06:27 PM
kryogenix   QUOTE(NoSex @ Feb 11 2008, 06:27 PM) Gran...   Feb 11 2008, 08:41 PM
resplendence   How about you go to Norway, then?   Feb 11 2008, 07:40 PM
Steven   That and even if some how Americans became more wi...   Feb 11 2008, 08:54 PM
NoSex   QUOTE(resplendence @ Feb 11 2008, 06:40 P...   Feb 11 2008, 09:13 PM
kryogenix   QUOTE(NoSex @ Feb 11 2008, 09:13 PM) With...   Feb 11 2008, 09:21 PM
BrandonSaunders   QUOTE(kryogenix @ Feb 11 2008, 08:21 PM) ...   Feb 11 2008, 10:27 PM
NoSex   QUOTE(kryogenix @ Feb 11 2008, 08:21 PM) ...   Feb 11 2008, 10:33 PM
resplendence   We'll miss you dearly when you do leave for so...   Feb 11 2008, 11:03 PM
NoSex   QUOTE(resplendence @ Feb 11 2008, 10:03 P...   Feb 11 2008, 11:38 PM
paperplane   QUOTE(kryogenix @ Feb 11 2008, 08:41 PM) ...   Feb 12 2008, 12:03 AM
kryogenix   ITT: kids worship Europe and take the US for grant...   Feb 12 2008, 12:33 AM
paperplane   QUOTEWhat are you talking about? Of course you can...   Feb 12 2008, 12:49 AM
kryogenix   QUOTE(paperplane @ Feb 12 2008, 12:49 AM)...   Feb 12 2008, 12:56 AM
paperplane   At least mine aren't completely arbitrary.   Feb 12 2008, 12:58 AM
kryogenix   QUOTE( @ Feb 12 2008, 12:58 AM) I have Do...   Feb 12 2008, 03:36 AM
ersatz   You guys keep saying it won't work here, but y...   Feb 12 2008, 08:05 AM
kryogenix   QUOTE(ersatz @ Feb 12 2008, 08:05 AM) You...   Feb 12 2008, 09:40 AM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(kryogenix @ Feb 12 2008, 08:40 AM) ...   Feb 12 2008, 10:22 AM
NoSex   QUOTE(Spirited Away @ Feb 12 2008, 09:22 ...   Feb 22 2008, 04:23 AM
kryogenix   And I've been saying, what's your point? W...   Feb 22 2008, 08:18 PM
NoSex   QUOTE(kryogenix @ Feb 22 2008, 07:18 PM) ...   Feb 23 2008, 05:11 AM
kryogenix   QUOTE(NoSex @ Feb 23 2008, 05:11 AM) Actu...   Feb 23 2008, 07:24 PM
Reidar   Norway's penal system, or lack thereof, is atr...   Feb 23 2008, 04:44 PM


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