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Feb 1 2008, 07:09 PM
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Which one should we focus on more in our criminal justice system? Basically, which one would serve as a satisfactory/fitting punishment for prisoners?
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Feb 11 2008, 06:27 PM
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Granted the society in Norway is different, as a whole, and that, in part, allows for the success of their progressive and wildly liberal justice system. However, what none of you seem to be understanding is that the point of pointing out Norway's system was to show that rehabilitation can work, and does work. There are very profound and far-reaching implications in that American prisoners might not do so well in a Norwegian center for rehabilitation, even though those said prisoners committed identical, or at least similar, crimes to those Norwegian criminals who found success in the same system. Our society is largely to blame for this, but our prison system is only perpetuating and inflating the problem.
We need sociological reform, sure. We need to change before this sort of rehabilitation could be wholly successful in the United States, definitely. But, that doesn't mean that there aren't steps that we could be taking or should be taking. America is f**king broken, and if a country like Norway doesn't make that painfully clear to the lot of you... you aren't f**king listening. |
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Feb 11 2008, 08:41 PM
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Granted the society in Norway is different, as a whole, and that, in part, allows for the success of their progressive and wildly liberal justice system. However, what none of you seem to be understanding is that the point of pointing out Norway's system was to show that rehabilitation can work, and does work. There are very profound and far-reaching implications in that American prisoners might not do so well in a Norwegian center for rehabilitation, even though those said prisoners committed identical, or at least similar, crimes to those Norwegian criminals who found success in the same system. Our society is largely to blame for this, but our prison system is only perpetuating and inflating the problem. We need sociological reform, sure. We need to change before this sort of rehabilitation could be wholly successful in the United States, definitely. But, that doesn't mean that there aren't steps that we could be taking or should be taking. America is f**king broken, and if a country like Norway doesn't make that painfully clear to the lot of you... you aren't f**king listening. America has a problem with repeat offenders of drunk driving. El Salvador has no repeat drunk driving offenders- the first time you are caught drunk driving, you are put to death by firing squad. It works for them, so why shouldn't we do it too? Just because it works doesn't mean its the right, or that it's right for us. You have to understand there are consequences to having a prison system like Norway. Norway has some of the highest taxes in the world. I don't think that America will be too excited about higher taxes because you want to make sure the guy who just killed a cop has a nice furniture in his hotel suite. |
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MissHygienic Rehabilitation or Retribution Feb 1 2008, 07:09 PM
Steven If we can only focus on one? Retribution. Feb 1 2008, 07:29 PM
ersatz I personally feel better mentally about rehabilita... Feb 2 2008, 01:35 AM
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ersatz QUOTE(Spirited Away @ Feb 5 2008, 01:48 P... Feb 10 2008, 12:18 AM
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ersatz QUOTE(BrandonSaunders @ Feb 10 2008, 12:2... Feb 10 2008, 05:11 PM
Steven QUOTE(ersatz @ Feb 10 2008, 04:11 PM) I w... Feb 10 2008, 05:57 PM
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IGetSex QUOTE(SoEffinMajor @ Feb 4 2008, 12:03 PM... Feb 5 2008, 08:20 AM
resplendence QUOTE(SoEffinMajor @ Feb 3 2008, 11:47 PM... Feb 5 2008, 10:05 AM
NoSex QUOTE(resplendence @ Feb 5 2008, 09:05 AM... Feb 5 2008, 11:59 AM
resplendence ^Are we in Norway? No.
So refrain from calling me... Feb 5 2008, 12:01 PM
NoSex QUOTE(resplendence @ Feb 5 2008, 11:01 AM... Feb 5 2008, 12:28 PM
resplendence I did read it. I was stating my opinion. Just beca... Feb 5 2008, 02:20 PM
B-NOX what a long text Feb 5 2008, 03:36 PM
BrandonSaunders This topic is rather broad. Its a little difficult... Feb 9 2008, 09:18 AM
kryogenix Norway? More like NorGAY. Feb 10 2008, 02:03 AM
ersatz It's a matter of treating people a certain way... Feb 11 2008, 04:14 PM
Steven QUOTE(ersatz @ Feb 11 2008, 03:14 PM) It... Feb 11 2008, 04:46 PM
kryogenix Send all the ghetto gangsters to Norwegian prisons... Feb 11 2008, 04:32 PM
resplendence How about you go to Norway, then? Feb 11 2008, 07:40 PM
Steven That and even if some how Americans became more wi... Feb 11 2008, 08:54 PM
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kryogenix QUOTE(NoSex @ Feb 11 2008, 09:13 PM) With... Feb 11 2008, 09:21 PM
BrandonSaunders QUOTE(kryogenix @ Feb 11 2008, 08:21 PM) ... Feb 11 2008, 10:27 PM
NoSex QUOTE(kryogenix @ Feb 11 2008, 08:21 PM) ... Feb 11 2008, 10:33 PM
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paperplane QUOTE(kryogenix @ Feb 11 2008, 08:41 PM) ... Feb 12 2008, 12:03 AM
kryogenix ITT: kids worship Europe and take the US for grant... Feb 12 2008, 12:33 AM
paperplane QUOTEWhat are you talking about? Of course you can... Feb 12 2008, 12:49 AM
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paperplane At least mine aren't completely arbitrary. Feb 12 2008, 12:58 AM
kryogenix QUOTE( @ Feb 12 2008, 12:58 AM) I have Do... Feb 12 2008, 03:36 AM
ersatz You guys keep saying it won't work here, but y... Feb 12 2008, 08:05 AM
kryogenix QUOTE(ersatz @ Feb 12 2008, 08:05 AM) You... Feb 12 2008, 09:40 AM
Spirited Away QUOTE(kryogenix @ Feb 12 2008, 08:40 AM) ... Feb 12 2008, 10:22 AM
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Reidar Norway's penal system, or lack thereof, is atr... Feb 23 2008, 04:44 PM![]() ![]() |