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Rehabilitation or Retribution, Our criminal justice system.
MissHygienic
post Feb 1 2008, 07:09 PM
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Which one should we focus on more in our criminal justice system? Basically, which one would serve as a satisfactory/fitting punishment for prisoners?
 
 
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post Feb 11 2008, 06:27 PM
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Granted the society in Norway is different, as a whole, and that, in part, allows for the success of their progressive and wildly liberal justice system. However, what none of you seem to be understanding is that the point of pointing out Norway's system was to show that rehabilitation can work, and does work. There are very profound and far-reaching implications in that American prisoners might not do so well in a Norwegian center for rehabilitation, even though those said prisoners committed identical, or at least similar, crimes to those Norwegian criminals who found success in the same system. Our society is largely to blame for this, but our prison system is only perpetuating and inflating the problem.

We need sociological reform, sure. We need to change before this sort of rehabilitation could be wholly successful in the United States, definitely. But, that doesn't mean that there aren't steps that we could be taking or should be taking. America is f**king broken, and if a country like Norway doesn't make that painfully clear to the lot of you... you aren't f**king listening.
 

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MissHygienic   Rehabilitation or Retribution   Feb 1 2008, 07:09 PM
Steven   If we can only focus on one? Retribution.   Feb 1 2008, 07:29 PM
ersatz   I personally feel better mentally about rehabilita...   Feb 2 2008, 01:35 AM
BrandonSaunders   QUOTE(ersatz @ Feb 2 2008, 12:35 AM) I pe...   Feb 2 2008, 03:12 AM
IGetSex   QUOTE(ersatz @ Feb 2 2008, 01:35 AM) I pe...   Feb 2 2008, 12:23 PM
ersatz   No...I was referring to the individual's. That...   Feb 2 2008, 10:45 AM
NoSex   QUOTE(BrandonSaunders @ Feb 2 2008, 02:12...   Feb 2 2008, 06:42 PM
IGetSex   QUOTE(NoSex @ Feb 2 2008, 06:42 PM) Why? ...   Feb 2 2008, 10:27 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(NoSex @ Feb 2 2008, 05:42 PM) Why? ...   Feb 5 2008, 02:48 PM
ersatz   QUOTE(Spirited Away @ Feb 5 2008, 01:48 P...   Feb 10 2008, 12:18 AM
BrandonSaunders   QUOTE(ersatz @ Feb 9 2008, 11:18 PM) Well...   Feb 10 2008, 01:27 AM
ersatz   QUOTE(BrandonSaunders @ Feb 10 2008, 12:2...   Feb 10 2008, 05:11 PM
Steven   QUOTE(ersatz @ Feb 10 2008, 04:11 PM) I w...   Feb 10 2008, 05:57 PM
BrandonSaunders   QUOTE(Steven @ Feb 10 2008, 04:57 PM) It...   Feb 10 2008, 06:17 PM
SoEffinMajor   QUOTE(MissHygienic @ Feb 1 2008, 07:09 PM...   Feb 3 2008, 11:47 PM
IGetSex   QUOTE(SoEffinMajor @ Feb 3 2008, 11:47 PM...   Feb 4 2008, 01:49 AM
SoEffinMajor   QUOTE(IGetSex @ Feb 4 2008, 01:49 AM) Wel...   Feb 4 2008, 12:03 PM
IGetSex   QUOTE(SoEffinMajor @ Feb 4 2008, 12:03 PM...   Feb 5 2008, 08:20 AM
resplendence   QUOTE(SoEffinMajor @ Feb 3 2008, 11:47 PM...   Feb 5 2008, 10:05 AM
NoSex   QUOTE(resplendence @ Feb 5 2008, 09:05 AM...   Feb 5 2008, 11:59 AM
resplendence   ^Are we in Norway? No. So refrain from calling me...   Feb 5 2008, 12:01 PM
NoSex   QUOTE(resplendence @ Feb 5 2008, 11:01 AM...   Feb 5 2008, 12:28 PM
resplendence   I did read it. I was stating my opinion. Just beca...   Feb 5 2008, 02:20 PM
B-NOX   what a long text   Feb 5 2008, 03:36 PM
BrandonSaunders   This topic is rather broad. Its a little difficult...   Feb 9 2008, 09:18 AM
kryogenix   Norway? More like NorGAY.   Feb 10 2008, 02:03 AM
ersatz   It's a matter of treating people a certain way...   Feb 11 2008, 04:14 PM
Steven   QUOTE(ersatz @ Feb 11 2008, 03:14 PM) It...   Feb 11 2008, 04:46 PM
kryogenix   Send all the ghetto gangsters to Norwegian prisons...   Feb 11 2008, 04:32 PM
NoSex   Granted the society in Norway is different, as a w...   Feb 11 2008, 06:27 PM
kryogenix   QUOTE(NoSex @ Feb 11 2008, 06:27 PM) Gran...   Feb 11 2008, 08:41 PM
resplendence   How about you go to Norway, then?   Feb 11 2008, 07:40 PM
Steven   That and even if some how Americans became more wi...   Feb 11 2008, 08:54 PM
NoSex   QUOTE(resplendence @ Feb 11 2008, 06:40 P...   Feb 11 2008, 09:13 PM
kryogenix   QUOTE(NoSex @ Feb 11 2008, 09:13 PM) With...   Feb 11 2008, 09:21 PM
BrandonSaunders   QUOTE(kryogenix @ Feb 11 2008, 08:21 PM) ...   Feb 11 2008, 10:27 PM
NoSex   QUOTE(kryogenix @ Feb 11 2008, 08:21 PM) ...   Feb 11 2008, 10:33 PM
resplendence   We'll miss you dearly when you do leave for so...   Feb 11 2008, 11:03 PM
NoSex   QUOTE(resplendence @ Feb 11 2008, 10:03 P...   Feb 11 2008, 11:38 PM
paperplane   QUOTE(kryogenix @ Feb 11 2008, 08:41 PM) ...   Feb 12 2008, 12:03 AM
kryogenix   ITT: kids worship Europe and take the US for grant...   Feb 12 2008, 12:33 AM
paperplane   QUOTEWhat are you talking about? Of course you can...   Feb 12 2008, 12:49 AM
kryogenix   QUOTE(paperplane @ Feb 12 2008, 12:49 AM)...   Feb 12 2008, 12:56 AM
paperplane   At least mine aren't completely arbitrary.   Feb 12 2008, 12:58 AM
kryogenix   QUOTE( @ Feb 12 2008, 12:58 AM) I have Do...   Feb 12 2008, 03:36 AM
ersatz   You guys keep saying it won't work here, but y...   Feb 12 2008, 08:05 AM
kryogenix   QUOTE(ersatz @ Feb 12 2008, 08:05 AM) You...   Feb 12 2008, 09:40 AM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(kryogenix @ Feb 12 2008, 08:40 AM) ...   Feb 12 2008, 10:22 AM
NoSex   QUOTE(Spirited Away @ Feb 12 2008, 09:22 ...   Feb 22 2008, 04:23 AM
kryogenix   And I've been saying, what's your point? W...   Feb 22 2008, 08:18 PM
NoSex   QUOTE(kryogenix @ Feb 22 2008, 07:18 PM) ...   Feb 23 2008, 05:11 AM
kryogenix   QUOTE(NoSex @ Feb 23 2008, 05:11 AM) Actu...   Feb 23 2008, 07:24 PM
Reidar   Norway's penal system, or lack thereof, is atr...   Feb 23 2008, 04:44 PM


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