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Rehabilitation or Retribution, Our criminal justice system.
MissHygienic
post Feb 1 2008, 07:09 PM
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Which one should we focus on more in our criminal justice system? Basically, which one would serve as a satisfactory/fitting punishment for prisoners?
 
 
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post Feb 11 2008, 04:14 PM
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It's a matter of treating people a certain way, not where they're from. If you treat your criminals nicely and show them that they are your equal, they are much more likely to be receptive and change their behavior. That is true in America, Norway, England, China, Antarctica, anywhere. That's a matter of the human brain. We are all humans no matter where we live.

But, we could just keep on doing the exact same thing, over and over, that doesn't work as well and doesn't really prevent anything, because if people really wanted to commit a crime, they would just do it, whether they would go to jail or not. Good idea. We've been doing this, so why change? Brilliant mentality.
 
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post Feb 11 2008, 04:46 PM
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QUOTE(ersatz @ Feb 11 2008, 03:14 PM) *
It's a matter of treating people a certain way, not where they're from. If you treat your criminals nicely and show them that they are your equal, they are much more likely to be receptive and change their behavior. That is true in America, Norway, England, China, Antarctica, anywhere. That's a matter of the human brain. We are all humans no matter where we live.

But, we could just keep on doing the exact same thing, over and over, that doesn't work as well and doesn't really prevent anything, because if people really wanted to commit a crime, they would just do it, whether they would go to jail or not. Good idea. We've been doing this, so why change? Brilliant mentality.

The crime is going to happen so long as humans are human. AMG INEQUALITY! Jealousy, envy, greed, sloth. IF someone has something you want bad enough to kill for, then what's going to stop you? Why might you be willing to kill? The way you grew up maybe? Your response brings up the nature vs nurture argument which could be argued either way and won't really lead to much as neither of us are certified psychologists (not that it would mean either of us are right, even if we were). Also, treat a criminal like an equal and they'll think they can get away with it again and again and again. They aren't our equals. They committed crimes, and depending on the severity of it punishments are handed out (be they fair or not).
 

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MissHygienic   Rehabilitation or Retribution   Feb 1 2008, 07:09 PM
Steven   If we can only focus on one? Retribution.   Feb 1 2008, 07:29 PM
ersatz   I personally feel better mentally about rehabilita...   Feb 2 2008, 01:35 AM
BrandonSaunders   QUOTE(ersatz @ Feb 2 2008, 12:35 AM) I pe...   Feb 2 2008, 03:12 AM
IGetSex   QUOTE(ersatz @ Feb 2 2008, 01:35 AM) I pe...   Feb 2 2008, 12:23 PM
ersatz   No...I was referring to the individual's. That...   Feb 2 2008, 10:45 AM
NoSex   QUOTE(BrandonSaunders @ Feb 2 2008, 02:12...   Feb 2 2008, 06:42 PM
IGetSex   QUOTE(NoSex @ Feb 2 2008, 06:42 PM) Why? ...   Feb 2 2008, 10:27 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(NoSex @ Feb 2 2008, 05:42 PM) Why? ...   Feb 5 2008, 02:48 PM
ersatz   QUOTE(Spirited Away @ Feb 5 2008, 01:48 P...   Feb 10 2008, 12:18 AM
BrandonSaunders   QUOTE(ersatz @ Feb 9 2008, 11:18 PM) Well...   Feb 10 2008, 01:27 AM
ersatz   QUOTE(BrandonSaunders @ Feb 10 2008, 12:2...   Feb 10 2008, 05:11 PM
Steven   QUOTE(ersatz @ Feb 10 2008, 04:11 PM) I w...   Feb 10 2008, 05:57 PM
BrandonSaunders   QUOTE(Steven @ Feb 10 2008, 04:57 PM) It...   Feb 10 2008, 06:17 PM
SoEffinMajor   QUOTE(MissHygienic @ Feb 1 2008, 07:09 PM...   Feb 3 2008, 11:47 PM
IGetSex   QUOTE(SoEffinMajor @ Feb 3 2008, 11:47 PM...   Feb 4 2008, 01:49 AM
SoEffinMajor   QUOTE(IGetSex @ Feb 4 2008, 01:49 AM) Wel...   Feb 4 2008, 12:03 PM
IGetSex   QUOTE(SoEffinMajor @ Feb 4 2008, 12:03 PM...   Feb 5 2008, 08:20 AM
resplendence   QUOTE(SoEffinMajor @ Feb 3 2008, 11:47 PM...   Feb 5 2008, 10:05 AM
NoSex   QUOTE(resplendence @ Feb 5 2008, 09:05 AM...   Feb 5 2008, 11:59 AM
resplendence   ^Are we in Norway? No. So refrain from calling me...   Feb 5 2008, 12:01 PM
NoSex   QUOTE(resplendence @ Feb 5 2008, 11:01 AM...   Feb 5 2008, 12:28 PM
resplendence   I did read it. I was stating my opinion. Just beca...   Feb 5 2008, 02:20 PM
B-NOX   what a long text   Feb 5 2008, 03:36 PM
BrandonSaunders   This topic is rather broad. Its a little difficult...   Feb 9 2008, 09:18 AM
kryogenix   Norway? More like NorGAY.   Feb 10 2008, 02:03 AM
ersatz   It's a matter of treating people a certain way...   Feb 11 2008, 04:14 PM
Steven   QUOTE(ersatz @ Feb 11 2008, 03:14 PM) It...   Feb 11 2008, 04:46 PM
kryogenix   Send all the ghetto gangsters to Norwegian prisons...   Feb 11 2008, 04:32 PM
NoSex   Granted the society in Norway is different, as a w...   Feb 11 2008, 06:27 PM
kryogenix   QUOTE(NoSex @ Feb 11 2008, 06:27 PM) Gran...   Feb 11 2008, 08:41 PM
resplendence   How about you go to Norway, then?   Feb 11 2008, 07:40 PM
Steven   That and even if some how Americans became more wi...   Feb 11 2008, 08:54 PM
NoSex   QUOTE(resplendence @ Feb 11 2008, 06:40 P...   Feb 11 2008, 09:13 PM
kryogenix   QUOTE(NoSex @ Feb 11 2008, 09:13 PM) With...   Feb 11 2008, 09:21 PM
BrandonSaunders   QUOTE(kryogenix @ Feb 11 2008, 08:21 PM) ...   Feb 11 2008, 10:27 PM
NoSex   QUOTE(kryogenix @ Feb 11 2008, 08:21 PM) ...   Feb 11 2008, 10:33 PM
resplendence   We'll miss you dearly when you do leave for so...   Feb 11 2008, 11:03 PM
NoSex   QUOTE(resplendence @ Feb 11 2008, 10:03 P...   Feb 11 2008, 11:38 PM
paperplane   QUOTE(kryogenix @ Feb 11 2008, 08:41 PM) ...   Feb 12 2008, 12:03 AM
kryogenix   ITT: kids worship Europe and take the US for grant...   Feb 12 2008, 12:33 AM
paperplane   QUOTEWhat are you talking about? Of course you can...   Feb 12 2008, 12:49 AM
kryogenix   QUOTE(paperplane @ Feb 12 2008, 12:49 AM)...   Feb 12 2008, 12:56 AM
paperplane   At least mine aren't completely arbitrary.   Feb 12 2008, 12:58 AM
kryogenix   QUOTE( @ Feb 12 2008, 12:58 AM) I have Do...   Feb 12 2008, 03:36 AM
ersatz   You guys keep saying it won't work here, but y...   Feb 12 2008, 08:05 AM
kryogenix   QUOTE(ersatz @ Feb 12 2008, 08:05 AM) You...   Feb 12 2008, 09:40 AM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(kryogenix @ Feb 12 2008, 08:40 AM) ...   Feb 12 2008, 10:22 AM
NoSex   QUOTE(Spirited Away @ Feb 12 2008, 09:22 ...   Feb 22 2008, 04:23 AM
kryogenix   And I've been saying, what's your point? W...   Feb 22 2008, 08:18 PM
NoSex   QUOTE(kryogenix @ Feb 22 2008, 07:18 PM) ...   Feb 23 2008, 05:11 AM
kryogenix   QUOTE(NoSex @ Feb 23 2008, 05:11 AM) Actu...   Feb 23 2008, 07:24 PM
Reidar   Norway's penal system, or lack thereof, is atr...   Feb 23 2008, 04:44 PM


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