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Hillary Clinton |
Jan 31 2008, 06:56 PM
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![]() I'm Jc ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Mentor Posts: 13,619 Joined: Jul 2006 Member No: 437,556 |
watcha think about her?
don't just say you hate her, or think she's a bitch, blah blah blah. i wanna know WHY you like or dislike her. if you don't know anything about her, her stances, ect...don't reply here please. i really don't give a shit about what you've assumed from looking at her or the fact she's a woman. i want opinions from people who actually have a clue. |
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| *CowerPointyObjects* |
Jan 31 2008, 08:15 PM
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Well, I object to the the fact that electing Hilary would be putting another Clinton into office when we've already had two Bushes. I don't think establishing that sort of trend is very democratic. By merit of these connections, voting for Hilary would be the opposite of voting for change, which is what we all so desire, is it not? I fully think that a Democrat needs take the presidency for the next term given the disaster what was Bush. I think that would give the party a very big advantage as well. Given that a lot of people vote based on party affiliation alone, things are looking pretty favorable in the general election. Now, if people's dissatisfaction is enough to pull their opposition through, then we're going to need to have a good candidate as that opposition. This isn't Hilary. Lots of people have had an irrational hate of Hilary for a long time. Hilary isn't change. I don't even know how she's pulling "35 years of experience" out of her ass; being married to experience is not experience. She voted to go to war in Iraq. She's being guilty of gross demagoguery on too many occasions. And while many people are afraid because she's soooo liberal, I've actually studied her views and wouldn't consider her nearly liberal enough to get my vote.
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Feb 10 2008, 09:36 PM
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![]() i'll fvck you til you luv me fagget ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Official Member Posts: 2,152 Joined: Jun 2006 Member No: 428,884 |
Well, I object to the the fact that electing Hilary would be putting another Clinton into office when we've already had two Bushes. I don't think establishing that sort of trend is very democratic. By merit of these connections, voting for Hilary would be the opposite of voting for change, which is what we all so desire, is it not? I fully think that a Democrat needs take the presidency for the next term given the disaster what was Bush. I think that would give the party a very big advantage as well. Given that a lot of people vote based on party affiliation alone, things are looking pretty favorable in the general election. Now, if people's dissatisfaction is enough to pull their opposition through, then we're going to need to have a good candidate as that opposition. This isn't Hilary. Lots of people have had an irrational hate of Hilary for a long time. Hilary isn't change. I don't even know how she's pulling "35 years of experience" out of her ass; being married to experience is not experience. She voted to go to war in Iraq. She's being guilty of gross demagoguery on too many occasions. And while many people are afraid because she's soooo liberal, I've actually studied her views and wouldn't consider her nearly liberal enough to get my vote. On a very nonpersonal note, people don't want change, they think they do, but they don't. The vast majority of people, even in their personal life find that they think of themselves as more tolerant than they actually are. In regards to Hillary, I disagree with you. There's been much talk about how it would be the same when Bill was pres. Not really. People neglect to realize that she, honestly, is her own person. Has always been a political activist and has really, far more so than any other first lady been very active politics, since her time in college. I think she has enough mind of her own to assess things the way that she wants to assess her. With that said though, I didn't vote for her, because one) I can't vote, but even if I can, I wouldn't. I don't think that a Republican would win again. Just because of the public backlash against this establishment. I think that people who have no affiliation with politics can feel the stigma. But I mean, a 15-year-olds mere opinion would seem silly and illegitimate. Correct? |
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Feb 10 2008, 09:45 PM
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In regards to Hillary, I disagree with you. There's been much talk about how it would be the same when Bill was pres. Not really. People neglect to realize that she, honestly, is her own person. Has always been a political activist and has really, far more so than any other first lady been very active politics, since her time in college. I think she has enough mind of her own to assess things the way that she wants to assess her. With that said though, I didn't vote for her, because one) I can't vote, but even if I can, I wouldn't. But I mean, a 15-year-olds mere opinion would seem silly and illegitimate. Correct? Um, only because you completely missed my point. My objection has nothing to do with a belief a vote for Hilary would be a vote for Bill; on the contrary, I cannot understand people who are voting for her sheerly because they essentially want him back. Political dynasties, I feel, have no place in a democracy (ignoring the fact that our government isn't technically democratic in the first place). |
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Feb 11 2008, 12:57 AM
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muhfucka yo mama's a bitch ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Banned Posts: 1,461 Joined: Feb 2007 Member No: 506,674 |
Political dynasties, I feel, have no place in a democracy (ignoring the fact that our government isn't technically democratic in the first place). Dynasty or not, shouldn't affect how the president is elected. If every Clinton and Bush were qualified to do the job(which is proven wrong, just my opinion), I wouldn't mind living in a so called "dynasty" |
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brooklyneast05 Hillary Clinton Jan 31 2008, 06:56 PM
superficial Hillary Clinton seems to be convincing a lot of pe... Jan 31 2008, 06:59 PM
YaGurlSukedMe2SLeep QUOTE(superficial @ Jan 31 2008, 03:59 PM... Feb 6 2008, 06:09 PM
ArjunaCapulong QUOTE(YaGurlSukedMe2SLeep @ Feb 6 2008, 06... Feb 6 2008, 07:22 PM
Steven QUOTE(ArjunaCapulong @ Feb 6 2008, 06:22 ... Feb 6 2008, 07:23 PM
YaGurlSukedMe2SLeep QUOTE(ArjunaCapulong @ Feb 6 2008, 04:22 ... Feb 7 2008, 12:24 AM
BrandonSaunders Debate? Having this in the lounge gives it visibil... Jan 31 2008, 08:08 PM
ArjunaCapulong QUOTE(CowerPointyObjects @ Jan 31 2008, 08... Jan 31 2008, 09:13 PM
BrandonSaunders QUOTE(YaGurlSukedMe2SLeep @ Feb 10 2008, 11... Feb 11 2008, 01:52 AM
YaGurlSukedMe2SLeep QUOTE(BrandonSaunders @ Feb 10 2008, 10:5... Feb 12 2008, 10:51 PM
brooklyneast05 as of now it's just expressing opinions/taking... Jan 31 2008, 08:49 PM
Steven I hate her attitude. She's arrogant as all he... Jan 31 2008, 08:52 PM
Elba I love her! She's going to be at my school... Jan 31 2008, 08:58 PM
BrandonSaunders QUOTE(Elba @ Jan 31 2008, 07:58 PM) I lov... Jan 31 2008, 09:02 PM

Elba QUOTE(BrandonSaunders @ Jan 31 2008, 06:0... Jan 31 2008, 09:05 PM

BrandonSaunders QUOTE(Elba @ Jan 31 2008, 08:05 PM) Why a... Jan 31 2008, 09:08 PM
Steven QUOTE(Elba @ Jan 31 2008, 07:58 PM) I lov... Jan 31 2008, 09:04 PM
Elba Mmmkay. Didn't know this was a debate. Baibai Jan 31 2008, 09:09 PM
BrandonSaunders QUOTE(Elba @ Jan 31 2008, 08:09 PM) Mmmka... Jan 31 2008, 09:16 PM
Steven QUOTEwatcha think about her?
don't just say y... Jan 31 2008, 09:09 PM
Elba I did say why; I didn't "support" my... Jan 31 2008, 09:11 PM
Steven yeah f**k the immigrants (illegal ones)! Base... Jan 31 2008, 09:11 PM
Elba QUOTELET'S GIVE ALL ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS DRIVERS... Jan 31 2008, 09:13 PM
Steven http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_B0uHybfmmY Jan 31 2008, 09:17 PM
Elba QUOTE(Steven @ Jan 31 2008, 06:17 PM) htt... Jan 31 2008, 09:21 PM
BrandonSaunders QUOTE(Elba @ Jan 31 2008, 08:21 PM) This ... Jan 31 2008, 09:24 PM
CowerPointyObjects ^haha Jan 31 2008, 09:24 PM
Elba Oh, because no one else flip-flops?
You're be... Jan 31 2008, 09:26 PM
CowerPointyObjects QUOTE(Elba @ Jan 31 2008, 09:26 PM) Oh, b... Jan 31 2008, 09:37 PM
ArjunaCapulong RE: Hillary Clinton Jan 31 2008, 09:28 PM
brooklyneast05 moved to debate Jan 31 2008, 09:29 PM
DoubleJ I personally don't have a problem with Mrs. Cl... Jan 31 2008, 10:53 PM
dyu if i could vote (not old enough), i wouldn't v... Feb 1 2008, 09:35 PM
Steven QUOTE(dyu @ Feb 1 2008, 08:35 PM) if i co... Feb 2 2008, 12:50 AM
CowerPointyObjects Whereas you are in 100% agreement with everything ... Feb 2 2008, 12:06 AM
instantmusic I don't watch the polls or news on presidentia... Feb 4 2008, 01:32 AM
BrandonSaunders QUOTE( @ Feb 4 2008, 12:32 AM) I don... Feb 4 2008, 01:38 AM
brooklyneast05 QUOTE( @ Feb 4 2008, 02:32 AM) I don... Feb 4 2008, 07:32 AM

instantmusic This post has been edited for security reasons. Feb 4 2008, 11:58 AM
Steven QUOTE( @ Feb 4 2008, 12:32 AM) I don... Feb 4 2008, 08:10 AM
brooklyneast05 that wasn't really all that clever
why are y... Feb 4 2008, 12:19 PM
instantmusic This post has been edited for security reasons. Feb 4 2008, 12:51 PM
brooklyneast05 good job. that was about 567 times better than you... Feb 4 2008, 12:59 PM
instantmusic This post has been edited for security reasons. Feb 4 2008, 01:29 PM
NoSex QUOTE( @ Feb 4 2008, 12:29 PM) Also, didn... Feb 5 2008, 11:57 AM
paperplane Then why not Edwards? He preaches of his hope for ... Feb 4 2008, 09:09 PM
instantmusic This post has been edited for security reasons. Feb 4 2008, 09:21 PM
DoubleJ Oh gosh, she was crying again yesterday. Feb 5 2008, 04:17 PM
ProudLeechLover i dont like her.
or anything she stands for Feb 5 2008, 05:09 PM
brooklyneast05 QUOTE(ProudLeechLover @ Feb 5 2008, 06:09... Feb 6 2008, 10:41 AM
Steven QUOTE(ProudLeechLover @ Feb 5 2008, 04:09... Feb 6 2008, 01:57 PM
c0cONuTTeR Tell me this. What do you not like that she stand... Feb 6 2008, 11:53 AM
B-NOX In any country, prison is where society sends it... Feb 6 2008, 01:08 PM
brooklyneast05 QUOTE(B-NOX @ Feb 6 2008, 02:08 PM) ... Feb 6 2008, 01:25 PM
instantmusic This post has been edited for security reasons. Feb 6 2008, 05:05 PM
kryogenix Hilary Clinton is a giant turd. She is not a New Y... Feb 9 2008, 02:20 AM
pandamonium QUOTE(kryogenix @ Feb 9 2008, 02:20 AM) T... Feb 9 2008, 02:51 AM
BrandonSaunders When people refer to the "experience" th... Feb 9 2008, 09:03 AM
Teesa ^Yeah, Hillary has had experience in the White Hou... Feb 9 2008, 05:41 PM
paperplane QUOTE(YaGurlSukedMe2SLeep @ Feb 11 2008, 12... Feb 11 2008, 08:39 AM
Tamacracker Plain and simple... her views/agenda seem very com... Feb 14 2008, 08:33 PM![]() ![]() |