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Hillary Clinton
brooklyneast05
post Jan 31 2008, 06:56 PM
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watcha think about her?

don't just say you hate her, or think she's a bitch, blah blah blah. i wanna know WHY you like or dislike her.


if you don't know anything about her, her stances, ect...don't reply here please. i really don't give a shit about what you've assumed from looking at her or the fact she's a woman. i want opinions from people who actually have a clue.
 
 
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post Jan 31 2008, 08:15 PM
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Well, I object to the the fact that electing Hilary would be putting another Clinton into office when we've already had two Bushes. I don't think establishing that sort of trend is very democratic. By merit of these connections, voting for Hilary would be the opposite of voting for change, which is what we all so desire, is it not? I fully think that a Democrat needs take the presidency for the next term given the disaster what was Bush. I think that would give the party a very big advantage as well. Given that a lot of people vote based on party affiliation alone, things are looking pretty favorable in the general election. Now, if people's dissatisfaction is enough to pull their opposition through, then we're going to need to have a good candidate as that opposition. This isn't Hilary. Lots of people have had an irrational hate of Hilary for a long time. Hilary isn't change. I don't even know how she's pulling "35 years of experience" out of her ass; being married to experience is not experience. She voted to go to war in Iraq. She's being guilty of gross demagoguery on too many occasions. And while many people are afraid because she's soooo liberal, I've actually studied her views and wouldn't consider her nearly liberal enough to get my vote.
 
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post Feb 10 2008, 09:36 PM
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QUOTE(CowerPointyObjects @ Jan 31 2008, 07:15 PM) *
Well, I object to the the fact that electing Hilary would be putting another Clinton into office when we've already had two Bushes. I don't think establishing that sort of trend is very democratic. By merit of these connections, voting for Hilary would be the opposite of voting for change, which is what we all so desire, is it not? I fully think that a Democrat needs take the presidency for the next term given the disaster what was Bush. I think that would give the party a very big advantage as well. Given that a lot of people vote based on party affiliation alone, things are looking pretty favorable in the general election. Now, if people's dissatisfaction is enough to pull their opposition through, then we're going to need to have a good candidate as that opposition. This isn't Hilary. Lots of people have had an irrational hate of Hilary for a long time. Hilary isn't change. I don't even know how she's pulling "35 years of experience" out of her ass; being married to experience is not experience. She voted to go to war in Iraq. She's being guilty of gross demagoguery on too many occasions. And while many people are afraid because she's soooo liberal, I've actually studied her views and wouldn't consider her nearly liberal enough to get my vote.


On a very nonpersonal note, people don't want change, they think they do, but they don't. The vast majority of people, even in their personal life find that they think of themselves as more tolerant than they actually are.

In regards to Hillary, I disagree with you. There's been much talk about how it would be the same when Bill was pres. Not really. People neglect to realize that she, honestly, is her own person. Has always been a political activist and has really, far more so than any other first lady been very active politics, since her time in college. I think she has enough mind of her own to assess things the way that she wants to assess her. With that said though, I didn't vote for her, because one) I can't vote, but even if I can, I wouldn't.

I don't think that a Republican would win again. Just because of the public backlash against this establishment. I think that people who have no affiliation with politics can feel the stigma.

But I mean, a 15-year-olds mere opinion would seem silly and illegitimate. Correct?
 
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post Feb 10 2008, 09:45 PM
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QUOTE(BLAZINASIAN @ Feb 10 2008, 09:36 PM) *
In regards to Hillary, I disagree with you. There's been much talk about how it would be the same when Bill was pres. Not really. People neglect to realize that she, honestly, is her own person. Has always been a political activist and has really, far more so than any other first lady been very active politics, since her time in college. I think she has enough mind of her own to assess things the way that she wants to assess her. With that said though, I didn't vote for her, because one) I can't vote, but even if I can, I wouldn't.

But I mean, a 15-year-olds mere opinion would seem silly and illegitimate. Correct?

Um, only because you completely missed my point.

My objection has nothing to do with a belief a vote for Hilary would be a vote for Bill; on the contrary, I cannot understand people who are voting for her sheerly because they essentially want him back. Political dynasties, I feel, have no place in a democracy (ignoring the fact that our government isn't technically democratic in the first place).
 
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post Feb 11 2008, 12:57 AM
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QUOTE(paperplane @ Feb 10 2008, 06:45 PM) *
Political dynasties, I feel, have no place in a democracy (ignoring the fact that our government isn't technically democratic in the first place).

Dynasty or not, shouldn't affect how the president is elected. If every Clinton and Bush were qualified to do the job(which is proven wrong, just my opinion), I wouldn't mind living in a so called "dynasty"
 

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brooklyneast05   Hillary Clinton   Jan 31 2008, 06:56 PM
superficial   Hillary Clinton seems to be convincing a lot of pe...   Jan 31 2008, 06:59 PM
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YaGurlSukedMe2SLeep   QUOTE(ArjunaCapulong @ Feb 6 2008, 04:22 ...   Feb 7 2008, 12:24 AM
BrandonSaunders   Debate? Having this in the lounge gives it visibil...   Jan 31 2008, 08:08 PM
CowerPointyObjects   Well, I object to the the fact that electing Hilar...   Jan 31 2008, 08:15 PM
ArjunaCapulong   QUOTE(CowerPointyObjects @ Jan 31 2008, 08...   Jan 31 2008, 09:13 PM
BLAZINASIAN   QUOTE(CowerPointyObjects @ Jan 31 2008, 07...   Feb 10 2008, 09:36 PM
paperplane   QUOTE(BLAZINASIAN @ Feb 10 2008, 09:36 PM...   Feb 10 2008, 09:45 PM
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BrandonSaunders   QUOTE(YaGurlSukedMe2SLeep @ Feb 10 2008, 11...   Feb 11 2008, 01:52 AM
YaGurlSukedMe2SLeep   QUOTE(BrandonSaunders @ Feb 10 2008, 10:5...   Feb 12 2008, 10:51 PM
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Steven   I hate her attitude. She's arrogant as all he...   Jan 31 2008, 08:52 PM
Elba   I love her! She's going to be at my school...   Jan 31 2008, 08:58 PM
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Steven   QUOTE(Elba @ Jan 31 2008, 07:58 PM) I lov...   Jan 31 2008, 09:04 PM
Elba   Mmmkay. Didn't know this was a debate. Baibai   Jan 31 2008, 09:09 PM
BrandonSaunders   QUOTE(Elba @ Jan 31 2008, 08:09 PM) Mmmka...   Jan 31 2008, 09:16 PM
Steven   QUOTEwatcha think about her? don't just say y...   Jan 31 2008, 09:09 PM
Elba   I did say why; I didn't "support" my...   Jan 31 2008, 09:11 PM
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Elba   QUOTE(Steven @ Jan 31 2008, 06:17 PM) htt...   Jan 31 2008, 09:21 PM
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CowerPointyObjects   ^haha   Jan 31 2008, 09:24 PM
Elba   Oh, because no one else flip-flops? You're be...   Jan 31 2008, 09:26 PM
CowerPointyObjects   QUOTE(Elba @ Jan 31 2008, 09:26 PM) Oh, b...   Jan 31 2008, 09:37 PM
ArjunaCapulong   RE: Hillary Clinton   Jan 31 2008, 09:28 PM
brooklyneast05   moved to debate   Jan 31 2008, 09:29 PM
DoubleJ   I personally don't have a problem with Mrs. Cl...   Jan 31 2008, 10:53 PM
dyu   if i could vote (not old enough), i wouldn't v...   Feb 1 2008, 09:35 PM
Steven   QUOTE(dyu @ Feb 1 2008, 08:35 PM) if i co...   Feb 2 2008, 12:50 AM
CowerPointyObjects   Whereas you are in 100% agreement with everything ...   Feb 2 2008, 12:06 AM
instantmusic   I don't watch the polls or news on presidentia...   Feb 4 2008, 01:32 AM
BrandonSaunders   QUOTE( @ Feb 4 2008, 12:32 AM) I don...   Feb 4 2008, 01:38 AM
brooklyneast05   QUOTE( @ Feb 4 2008, 02:32 AM) I don...   Feb 4 2008, 07:32 AM
instantmusic   This post has been edited for security reasons.   Feb 4 2008, 11:58 AM
Steven   QUOTE( @ Feb 4 2008, 12:32 AM) I don...   Feb 4 2008, 08:10 AM
brooklyneast05   that wasn't really all that clever why are y...   Feb 4 2008, 12:19 PM
instantmusic   This post has been edited for security reasons.   Feb 4 2008, 12:51 PM
brooklyneast05   good job. that was about 567 times better than you...   Feb 4 2008, 12:59 PM
instantmusic   This post has been edited for security reasons.   Feb 4 2008, 01:29 PM
NoSex   QUOTE( @ Feb 4 2008, 12:29 PM) Also, didn...   Feb 5 2008, 11:57 AM
paperplane   Then why not Edwards? He preaches of his hope for ...   Feb 4 2008, 09:09 PM
instantmusic   This post has been edited for security reasons.   Feb 4 2008, 09:21 PM
DoubleJ   Oh gosh, she was crying again yesterday.   Feb 5 2008, 04:17 PM
ProudLeechLover   i dont like her. or anything she stands for   Feb 5 2008, 05:09 PM
brooklyneast05   QUOTE(ProudLeechLover @ Feb 5 2008, 06:09...   Feb 6 2008, 10:41 AM
Steven   QUOTE(ProudLeechLover @ Feb 5 2008, 04:09...   Feb 6 2008, 01:57 PM
c0cONuTTeR   Tell me this. What do you not like that she stand...   Feb 6 2008, 11:53 AM
B-NOX   In any country, prison is where society sends it...   Feb 6 2008, 01:08 PM
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instantmusic   This post has been edited for security reasons.   Feb 6 2008, 05:05 PM
kryogenix   Hilary Clinton is a giant turd. She is not a New Y...   Feb 9 2008, 02:20 AM
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paperplane   QUOTE(YaGurlSukedMe2SLeep @ Feb 11 2008, 12...   Feb 11 2008, 08:39 AM
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