A Gay Idea Options

[pandora]

Christine Pham: i just thought of the most awesome thing
Christine Pham: if all the gays in the US came together and created a religion around being gay
Christine Pham: they technically would be able to get married
Christine Pham: BECAUSE
Christine Pham: otherwise it would be religious persecution to disallow them from getting married
Christine Pham: and NO COUNTRY wants to do that hahahahhahaa
toyadelfuego: hahahahha that's freakin genius
Christine Pham: and ANYONE can create a religion about anything.

Go.

[Spirited Away]

i think what they meant was that no one is disallowing rapists and drugees from getting married.

Oh. Thanks.

true that. but this is for gay people, its okay for straight drug addicts to marry.

What I meant is a religion for drug addicts to be able to use and abuse drugs as they like. It doesn't have to be druggies.

What about incest? How about a religion for brothers and sisters to be able to get married?

If marriage is holy matrimony between a male and a female, why is it that aetheists are able to get married? Are they horrible people?

If you really break it down, marriage is a piece of paper and a lot of responsibility. I don't want to downplay the significance of love and marriage, but on paper, marriage is just legal binding. Why exclude gay people?

True.

[Just_Dream]

What about incest? How about a religion for brothers and sisters to be able to get married?

Incest is not only deemed as immoral by many (or some), but there is also the issue of bloodlines where hereditary disorders come into play. That's why there were kings and queens with bloodlines that died off so quickly because incest became dangerous. Although I believe cousins can marry. I'm not exactly sure though.


As for the gains of homosexual marriage:

• The right to adopt. It is seem as a much more stable environment for adopted children if they have two parents. Although one parent can adopt, with the case of a homosexual individual wanting to adopt, the standards are set differently.
• Marriage license - Since it's a legal binding, some (or most, if not all) people see it as proof that they are legally married.

That's all I can think of now. I will edit this later.

[Spirited Away]

For the record, I'm refuting this for the sake of debate, not that I condone incest or that I am anti-gay marriage.

1. Incest is not only deemed as immoral by many (or some),

2. but there is also the issue of bloodlines where hereditary disorders come into play.

3. That's why there were kings and queens with bloodlines that died off so quickly because incest became dangerous.

4. Although I believe cousins can marry. I'm not exactly sure though.

1. Homosexuality is also deemed as immoral by many (or some).
2. Health issues of HIV and other STDs are prominent in the gay community.
3. Whereas there is no true bloodlines to speak of when a gay couple marries.
4. As there are restrictions on homosexual marriage, there are also restrictions on cousins marrying each other. Please elaborate on your problem on this point.

5. The right to adopt. It is seem as a much more stable environment for adopted children if they have two parents. Although one parent can adopt, with the case of a homosexual individual wanting to adopt, the standards are set differently.

6. Marriage license - Since it's a legal binding, some (or most, if not all) people see it as proof that they are legally married.
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That's all I can think of now. I will edit this later.

5. While adoption laws vary State to State, the fact is that the option to adopt is available to joint or single adoption (depending on the State). I only know of one State (Florida) that completely ban adoption by homosexuals.

6. I'm not married so I'm not savvy on all benefits of being "legally married", but legality of marriage serves tax, medical benefits purposes. If a couple tells me that they're married, I'll take their word for it. They don't need to show me papers or anything to prove that they are. A legally binding document means shit these day aside from their compensation and pecuniary values. If the focus is on those things, and such are the basis of the pro-homosexual marriage argument, then marriage is damned all together.

Let me step outside of my devi's advocate role for a second to clarify my stance. Tax and medical and health benefits (death benefits) are ALL VERY legit reasons for homosexual to get married. As a single adult who can no longer enjoy lower tax and medical benefits of my parents, I understand completely the importance of having those available to any group of people.


On another note, calling marriage a "holy matrimony" is rather prejudicial, not to mention confining. By that definition, those who did not married by church, or some religious authority are not considered married. We all know that to be false.

[Just_Dream]

For the record, I'm refuting this for the sake of debate, not that I condone incest or that I am anti-gay marriage.

Wait I'm confused - are you taking what I said and debating against it? Because if so, I mentioned the incest part only to say why people are against incest, not why people are against homosexuality. In any case, I am all for multiculturalism, as I have not mentioned anything against it. If I misinterpreted what you meant, then I apologize for that.

Ah I did not know of the tax benefits and such, but thank you for clarifying that.