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Obama's Religious Background, Does It Matter? |
Jan 22 2008, 08:29 PM
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For those of you that have been following, yet another, God-awful US election, you're well aware of the recent specualtions about Barack Obama being a Muslim. Does it really matter? What difference would it make if the man was a Scientologist?
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/ Discuss. EDIT: Can someone please correct the spelling in the title? |
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Jan 22 2008, 10:47 PM
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If I am not mistaken, it would matter because he would be like the first person of the religion in the whitehouse. Like I think they made a big deal for either Kennedy or Clinton because one of them was the first Jewish President. What in the hell are you talking about? We haven't had a Jewish president, Clinton wasn't anything religiously special, and Kennedy was the first Catholic president. This would be much less of a big deal now, as Catholicism is more widely accepted now, but it didn't really help Kerry either. Romney is doing pretty well despite his Mormonism. Which actually sucks, not because I am a bigot, but because I really hate Romney. People are far more worried about his religion this Obama's, let alone Huckabee. People love their Protestants. Although I support Huckabee's candidacy about as much as I support Romney's. I don't think he understands the concept of the separation of church and state. I think it's necessary that Obama defend his faith against slander only because of where this country is internationally right now; if he were being accused of believing in a less "offensive" religion, then I would hope he would take a stronger stand for that religion rather than defending himself against something that shouldn't be a potentially campaign-wrecking accusation. Just the same, I think don't think he's addressing the concerns in the right way; rather than merely insisting that he's a Christian and explaining how he's always gone to the same church and such, he should also add that if he were a Muslim he would willing admit it and stand up for his faith, and that shows moral character and real tolerance, rather than conformation to the ignorant and intolerant. |
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Feb 3 2008, 03:33 PM
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What in the hell are you talking about? We haven't had a Jewish president, Clinton wasn't anything religiously special, and Kennedy was the first Catholic president. This would be much less of a big deal now, as Catholicism is more widely accepted now, but it didn't really help Kerry either. Relax ass wipe, I knew it was something like that but I wasn't sure. Anyway, people who are ignorant enough to not want Obama as president because they think he is Muslim, or because Hilary is a woman, really don't deserve to vote. I mean seriously, take your head out of your ass. |
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Feb 3 2008, 03:37 PM
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Relax ass wipe, I knew it was something like that but I wasn't sure. Anyway, people who are ignorant enough to not want Obama as president because they think he is Muslim, or because Hilary is a woman, really don't deserve to vote. I mean seriously, take your head out of your ass. Whether they "don't deserve to vote" or not isn't going to stop them from actually casting a vote based on their prejudices and beliefs - which, essentially, is the reality of our democratic republic. Do you honestly believe that there are a bunch of informed and prepared voters? |
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BrandonSaunders Obama's Religious Background Jan 22 2008, 08:29 PM
MissFits It shouldn't matter, but it always does.
I th... Jan 22 2008, 08:55 PM
BrandonSaunders QUOTE(MissFits @ Jan 22 2008, 07:55 PM) I... Jan 22 2008, 09:04 PM
yrrnotelekktric QUOTE(MissFits @ Jan 22 2008, 05:55 PM) I... Jan 27 2008, 02:29 PM
DoubleJ If I am not mistaken, it would matter because he w... Jan 22 2008, 08:56 PM
chena1991 it shouldn't matter i think........as long as ... Jan 22 2008, 09:06 PM
MissFits QUOTE(chena1991 @ Jan 22 2008, 11:06 PM) ... Jan 23 2008, 07:11 AM
BrandonSaunders It shouldn't even matter if this man believed ... Jan 22 2008, 09:08 PM
chena1991 true......but just think about it. it will never r... Jan 22 2008, 09:13 PM
BrandonSaunders QUOTE(chena1991 @ Jan 22 2008, 08:13 PM) ... Jan 22 2008, 09:18 PM
MissHygienic QUOTE(chena1991 @ Jan 22 2008, 09:13 PM) ... Jan 22 2008, 09:31 PM
BrandonSaunders QUOTE(MissHygienic @ Jan 22 2008, 08:31 P... Jan 22 2008, 10:29 PM
brooklyneast05 i'd be more worried about huckabee's relig... Jan 22 2008, 10:01 PM
YaGurlSukedMe2SLeep QUOTE(brooklyneast05 @ Jan 22 2008, 07:01... Feb 7 2008, 08:13 PM
brooklyneast05 yeah agreed, i'm just saying out of all of the... Jan 22 2008, 10:34 PM
DoubleJ Of course it would. Again this is where stereotypi... Jan 22 2008, 10:35 PM
BrandonSaunders QUOTE(CowerPointyObjects @ Jan 22 2008, 09... Jan 22 2008, 11:20 PM
paperplane QUOTE(DoubleJ @ Feb 3 2008, 03:33 PM) Rel... Feb 3 2008, 04:24 PM
DoubleJ QUOTE(paperplane @ Feb 3 2008, 04:24 PM) ... Feb 3 2008, 04:38 PM
libertie I'm going to step completely out of "rati... Jan 22 2008, 11:43 PM
NoSex QUOTE(libertie @ Jan 22 2008, 10:43 PM) T... Jan 24 2008, 12:11 PM
libertie QUOTE(NoSex @ Jan 24 2008, 11:11 AM) You ... Feb 8 2008, 03:44 PM
Steven I hate political correctness. Almost as much as I... Jan 24 2008, 12:15 PM
tungmyBANANA QUOTE(Steven @ Jan 24 2008, 09:15 AM) I h... Jan 25 2008, 06:35 PM
ersatz What shouldn't matter is the fact that their r... Jan 28 2008, 10:41 PM
jaeman It shouldn't matter, he practices a different ... Jan 29 2008, 06:50 AM
superstitious QUOTE(jaeman @ Jan 29 2008, 05:50 AM) It ... Jan 29 2008, 07:00 PM
resplendence I think his religion is the least of his problems.... Jan 29 2008, 02:29 PM
brooklyneast05 i do think america is ready for a black or female ... Jan 29 2008, 06:29 PM
BrandonSaunders QUOTE(brooklyneast05 @ Jan 29 2008, 05:29... Jan 29 2008, 07:00 PM
TheFegNut I don't really care about him.
I just hope Huc... Jan 29 2008, 06:42 PM
brooklyneast05 QUOTE(TheFegNut @ Jan 29 2008, 07:42 PM) ... Jan 29 2008, 06:44 PM
TheFegNut I misread an article.
Never mind >___>;
But ... Jan 29 2008, 07:10 PM
CowerPointyObjects RE: Obama's Religious Background Jan 29 2008, 07:25 PM
brooklyneast05 anyone watch Caroline/Ted Kennedy's speech end... Jan 29 2008, 09:49 PM
agiri Ideally, separation of church and state is wonderf... Jan 30 2008, 01:38 AM
NoSex QUOTE(agiri @ Jan 30 2008, 12:38 AM) But ... Jan 30 2008, 04:56 PM
agiri QUOTE(NoSex @ Jan 30 2008, 01:56 PM) Hith... Jan 30 2008, 05:19 PM
NoSex QUOTE(agiri @ Jan 30 2008, 04:19 PM) I ne... Jan 30 2008, 08:05 PM
Joss-eh-lime it does matter.
religion is really important to pe... Feb 2 2008, 10:00 PM
Steven QUOTE(Joss-eh-lime @ Feb 2 2008, 09... Feb 3 2008, 01:08 AM
Sulfur Haven't read the previous posts, but I'd l... Feb 3 2008, 03:01 PM
brooklyneast05 obama is christian Feb 3 2008, 03:02 PM
paperplane Bush is a white male and still a shit president. I... Feb 3 2008, 03:32 PM
DoubleJ ^Of course not, but I think you get the idea of wh... Feb 3 2008, 03:44 PM
brooklyneast05 ^why do you think that hillary isn't capable o... Feb 3 2008, 04:40 PM
DoubleJ QUOTE(brooklyneast05 @ Feb 3 2008, 04:40 ... Feb 4 2008, 02:59 AM
hilaryhashandcuffs [color="#00BFFF"]Everybody in this elect... Feb 3 2008, 09:39 PM
brooklyneast05 ^wanna be more specific about why you don't li... Feb 3 2008, 09:46 PM
ProudLeechLover the presidental campain shouldnt be about race or ... Feb 7 2008, 11:18 AM
Steven QUOTE(ProudLeechLover @ Feb 7 2008, 10:18... Feb 7 2008, 11:30 AM
superstitious QUOTE(Steven @ Feb 7 2008, 10:30 AM) Yes ... Feb 7 2008, 12:17 PM
Steven QUOTE(superstitious @ Feb 7 2008, 11:17 A... Feb 7 2008, 01:48 PM
ProudLeechLover RE: Obama's Religious Background Feb 7 2008, 12:17 PM
ProudLeechLover animal..... Feb 7 2008, 08:22 PM
kryogenix Obama belongs to a very afrocentric church. He was... Feb 8 2008, 12:42 PM
kryogenix Here's Obama's church
http://www.tucc.org... Feb 8 2008, 04:04 PM
NoSex QUOTE(kryogenix @ Feb 8 2008, 03:04 PM) Y... Feb 8 2008, 10:34 PM
ersatz I, too, don't see the problem in any of those ... Feb 8 2008, 11:49 PM
brooklyneast05 QUOTE(ersatz @ Feb 9 2008, 12:49 AM) I d... Feb 8 2008, 11:55 PM
kryogenix QUOTE(ersatz @ Feb 8 2008, 11:49 PM) I, t... Feb 9 2008, 01:46 AM
BrandonSaunders QUOTE(kryogenix @ Feb 9 2008, 12:46 AM) P... Feb 9 2008, 09:07 AM
NoSex QUOTE(kryogenix @ Feb 9 2008, 12:46 AM) P... Feb 22 2008, 04:33 AM
kryogenix QUOTE(NoSex @ Feb 22 2008, 04:33 AM) Oh, ... Feb 22 2008, 06:58 PM
Tamacracker QUOTE(BrandonSaunders @ Jan 22 2008, 08:2... Feb 22 2008, 10:24 AM
brooklyneast05 QUOTE(Tamacracker @ Feb 22 2008, 11:24 AM... Feb 22 2008, 10:43 AM
Tamacracker QUOTE(brooklyneast05 @ Feb 22 2008, 10:43... Feb 22 2008, 11:10 AM
brooklyneast05 QUOTE(Tamacracker @ Feb 22 2008, 12:10 PM... Feb 22 2008, 12:31 PM
Tamacracker QUOTE(brooklyneast05 @ Feb 22 2008, 12:31... Feb 22 2008, 12:54 PM
Tamacracker Instead of abortions... why not just quickly kill ... Feb 22 2008, 07:02 PM
paperplane Shut up. Feb 22 2008, 07:31 PM
pandora QUOTE(paperplane @ Feb 22 2008, 04:31 PM)... Feb 22 2008, 07:40 PM
Tamacracker QUOTE(paperplane @ Feb 22 2008, 07:31 PM)... Feb 22 2008, 07:55 PM
paperplane QUOTE(paperplane @ Feb 22 2008, 07:31 PM)... Feb 22 2008, 08:10 PM
Tamacracker This is a debate thread... stop posting if you... Feb 23 2008, 01:46 AM
NoSex If you want to discuss the "ethics" of a... Feb 22 2008, 08:19 PM
paperplane Take your own advice? Feb 23 2008, 06:37 PM
Steven Now now guys, let's stop this mindless incessa... Feb 23 2008, 09:15 PM
Strive If you take a look at obama's race on tv.
Whe... Feb 23 2008, 09:42 PM
BrandonSaunders QUOTE(Strive @ Feb 23 2008, 08:42 PM) If ... Feb 23 2008, 10:58 PM
YaGurlSukedMe2SLeep QUOTE(Strive @ Feb 23 2008, 06:42 PM) If ... Feb 27 2008, 11:24 PM
Steven the clinton people were like, LOOK OMG HE DOESNT P... Feb 23 2008, 09:44 PM
paperplane I guess he's talking about that one picture wh... Feb 23 2008, 11:00 PM
kryogenix Obama missed the State of the Black Union, Clinton... Feb 24 2008, 12:00 AM
BrandonSaunders QUOTE(kryogenix @ Feb 23 2008, 11:00 PM) ... Feb 24 2008, 12:01 AM
Tamacracker QUOTE(BrandonSaunders @ Feb 24 2008, 12:0... Feb 24 2008, 11:10 PM
BrandonSaunders QUOTE(Tamacracker @ Feb 24 2008, 10:10 PM... Feb 24 2008, 11:13 PM
CruelDemeanor I don't know why is it should matter.
If that... Feb 24 2008, 10:14 PM
Heathasm barack out with your caucus out! Feb 24 2008, 10:20 PM
BrandonSaunders QUOTE(Heathasm @ Feb 24 2008, 09:20 PM) b... Feb 24 2008, 10:30 PM
brooklyneast05 ^seriously. i didn't get what the big deal ove... Feb 24 2008, 11:15 PM
kryogenix BARACK IRAQ HUSSEIN OBAMA BIN LADEN Feb 24 2008, 11:17 PM
DoubleJ Yeah, and on top of that, he offered to send Miche... Feb 24 2008, 11:40 PM
kryogenix WHOOPS Obama is done Feb 25 2008, 09:12 AM
NoSex QUOTE(kryogenix @ Feb 25 2008, 08:12 AM) ... Feb 27 2008, 04:31 PM
kryogenix QUOTE(NoSex @ Feb 27 2008, 04:31 PM) Ahhh... Feb 28 2008, 01:29 AM
paperplane are you f**king serious? Feb 28 2008, 01:33 AM![]() ![]() |