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Obama's Religious Background, Does It Matter?
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post Jan 22 2008, 08:29 PM
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For those of you that have been following, yet another, God-awful US election, you're well aware of the recent specualtions about Barack Obama being a Muslim. Does it really matter? What difference would it make if the man was a Scientologist?

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EDIT: Can someone please correct the spelling in the title?
 
 
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post Jan 22 2008, 10:47 PM
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QUOTE(DoubleJ @ Jan 22 2008, 08:56 PM) *
If I am not mistaken, it would matter because he would be like the first person of the religion in the whitehouse. Like I think they made a big deal for either Kennedy or Clinton because one of them was the first Jewish President.

What in the hell are you talking about? We haven't had a Jewish president, Clinton wasn't anything religiously special, and Kennedy was the first Catholic president. This would be much less of a big deal now, as Catholicism is more widely accepted now, but it didn't really help Kerry either.

Romney is doing pretty well despite his Mormonism. Which actually sucks, not because I am a bigot, but because I really hate Romney. People are far more worried about his religion this Obama's, let alone Huckabee. People love their Protestants. Although I support Huckabee's candidacy about as much as I support Romney's. I don't think he understands the concept of the separation of church and state.

I think it's necessary that Obama defend his faith against slander only because of where this country is internationally right now; if he were being accused of believing in a less "offensive" religion, then I would hope he would take a stronger stand for that religion rather than defending himself against something that shouldn't be a potentially campaign-wrecking accusation. Just the same, I think don't think he's addressing the concerns in the right way; rather than merely insisting that he's a Christian and explaining how he's always gone to the same church and such, he should also add that if he were a Muslim he would willing admit it and stand up for his faith, and that shows moral character and real tolerance, rather than conformation to the ignorant and intolerant.
 
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post Feb 3 2008, 03:33 PM
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QUOTE(CowerPointyObjects @ Jan 22 2008, 10:47 PM) *
What in the hell are you talking about? We haven't had a Jewish president, Clinton wasn't anything religiously special, and Kennedy was the first Catholic president. This would be much less of a big deal now, as Catholicism is more widely accepted now, but it didn't really help Kerry either.

Relax ass wipe, I knew it was something like that but I wasn't sure. Anyway, people who are ignorant enough to not want Obama as president because they think he is Muslim, or because Hilary is a woman, really don't deserve to vote. I mean seriously, take your head out of your ass.
 

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BrandonSaunders   Obama's Religious Background   Jan 22 2008, 08:29 PM
MissFits   It shouldn't matter, but it always does. I th...   Jan 22 2008, 08:55 PM
BrandonSaunders   QUOTE(MissFits @ Jan 22 2008, 07:55 PM) I...   Jan 22 2008, 09:04 PM
yrrnotelekktric   QUOTE(MissFits @ Jan 22 2008, 05:55 PM) I...   Jan 27 2008, 02:29 PM
DoubleJ   If I am not mistaken, it would matter because he w...   Jan 22 2008, 08:56 PM
chena1991   it shouldn't matter i think........as long as ...   Jan 22 2008, 09:06 PM
MissFits   QUOTE(chena1991 @ Jan 22 2008, 11:06 PM) ...   Jan 23 2008, 07:11 AM
BrandonSaunders   It shouldn't even matter if this man believed ...   Jan 22 2008, 09:08 PM
chena1991   true......but just think about it. it will never r...   Jan 22 2008, 09:13 PM
BrandonSaunders   QUOTE(chena1991 @ Jan 22 2008, 08:13 PM) ...   Jan 22 2008, 09:18 PM
MissHygienic   QUOTE(chena1991 @ Jan 22 2008, 09:13 PM) ...   Jan 22 2008, 09:31 PM
BrandonSaunders   QUOTE(MissHygienic @ Jan 22 2008, 08:31 P...   Jan 22 2008, 10:29 PM
brooklyneast05   i'd be more worried about huckabee's relig...   Jan 22 2008, 10:01 PM
YaGurlSukedMe2SLeep   QUOTE(brooklyneast05 @ Jan 22 2008, 07:01...   Feb 7 2008, 08:13 PM
brooklyneast05   yeah agreed, i'm just saying out of all of the...   Jan 22 2008, 10:34 PM
DoubleJ   Of course it would. Again this is where stereotypi...   Jan 22 2008, 10:35 PM
CowerPointyObjects   QUOTE(DoubleJ @ Jan 22 2008, 08:56 PM) If...   Jan 22 2008, 10:47 PM
BrandonSaunders   QUOTE(CowerPointyObjects @ Jan 22 2008, 09...   Jan 22 2008, 11:20 PM
DoubleJ   QUOTE(CowerPointyObjects @ Jan 22 2008, 10...   Feb 3 2008, 03:33 PM
NoSex   QUOTE(DoubleJ @ Feb 3 2008, 02:33 PM) Rel...   Feb 3 2008, 03:37 PM
paperplane   QUOTE(DoubleJ @ Feb 3 2008, 03:33 PM) Rel...   Feb 3 2008, 04:24 PM
DoubleJ   QUOTE(paperplane @ Feb 3 2008, 04:24 PM) ...   Feb 3 2008, 04:38 PM
libertie   I'm going to step completely out of "rati...   Jan 22 2008, 11:43 PM
NoSex   QUOTE(libertie @ Jan 22 2008, 10:43 PM) T...   Jan 24 2008, 12:11 PM
libertie   QUOTE(NoSex @ Jan 24 2008, 11:11 AM) You ...   Feb 8 2008, 03:44 PM
Steven   I hate political correctness. Almost as much as I...   Jan 24 2008, 12:15 PM
tungmyBANANA   QUOTE(Steven @ Jan 24 2008, 09:15 AM) I h...   Jan 25 2008, 06:35 PM
ersatz   What shouldn't matter is the fact that their r...   Jan 28 2008, 10:41 PM
jaeman   It shouldn't matter, he practices a different ...   Jan 29 2008, 06:50 AM
superstitious   QUOTE(jaeman @ Jan 29 2008, 05:50 AM) It ...   Jan 29 2008, 07:00 PM
resplendence   I think his religion is the least of his problems....   Jan 29 2008, 02:29 PM
brooklyneast05   i do think america is ready for a black or female ...   Jan 29 2008, 06:29 PM
BrandonSaunders   QUOTE(brooklyneast05 @ Jan 29 2008, 05:29...   Jan 29 2008, 07:00 PM
TheFegNut   I don't really care about him. I just hope Huc...   Jan 29 2008, 06:42 PM
brooklyneast05   QUOTE(TheFegNut @ Jan 29 2008, 07:42 PM) ...   Jan 29 2008, 06:44 PM
TheFegNut   I misread an article. Never mind >___>; But ...   Jan 29 2008, 07:10 PM
CowerPointyObjects   RE: Obama's Religious Background   Jan 29 2008, 07:25 PM
brooklyneast05   anyone watch Caroline/Ted Kennedy's speech end...   Jan 29 2008, 09:49 PM
agiri   Ideally, separation of church and state is wonderf...   Jan 30 2008, 01:38 AM
NoSex   QUOTE(agiri @ Jan 30 2008, 12:38 AM) But ...   Jan 30 2008, 04:56 PM
agiri   QUOTE(NoSex @ Jan 30 2008, 01:56 PM) Hith...   Jan 30 2008, 05:19 PM
NoSex   QUOTE(agiri @ Jan 30 2008, 04:19 PM) I ne...   Jan 30 2008, 08:05 PM
Joss-eh-lime   it does matter. religion is really important to pe...   Feb 2 2008, 10:00 PM
Steven   QUOTE(Joss-eh-lime @ Feb 2 2008, 09...   Feb 3 2008, 01:08 AM
Sulfur   Haven't read the previous posts, but I'd l...   Feb 3 2008, 03:01 PM
brooklyneast05   obama is christian   Feb 3 2008, 03:02 PM
paperplane   Bush is a white male and still a shit president. I...   Feb 3 2008, 03:32 PM
DoubleJ   ^Of course not, but I think you get the idea of wh...   Feb 3 2008, 03:44 PM
brooklyneast05   ^why do you think that hillary isn't capable o...   Feb 3 2008, 04:40 PM
DoubleJ   QUOTE(brooklyneast05 @ Feb 3 2008, 04:40 ...   Feb 4 2008, 02:59 AM
hilaryhashandcuffs   [color="#00BFFF"]Everybody in this elect...   Feb 3 2008, 09:39 PM
brooklyneast05   ^wanna be more specific about why you don't li...   Feb 3 2008, 09:46 PM
ProudLeechLover   the presidental campain shouldnt be about race or ...   Feb 7 2008, 11:18 AM
Steven   QUOTE(ProudLeechLover @ Feb 7 2008, 10:18...   Feb 7 2008, 11:30 AM
superstitious   QUOTE(Steven @ Feb 7 2008, 10:30 AM) Yes ...   Feb 7 2008, 12:17 PM
Steven   QUOTE(superstitious @ Feb 7 2008, 11:17 A...   Feb 7 2008, 01:48 PM
ProudLeechLover   RE: Obama's Religious Background   Feb 7 2008, 12:17 PM
ProudLeechLover   animal.....   Feb 7 2008, 08:22 PM
kryogenix   Obama belongs to a very afrocentric church. He was...   Feb 8 2008, 12:42 PM
kryogenix   Here's Obama's church http://www.tucc.org...   Feb 8 2008, 04:04 PM
NoSex   QUOTE(kryogenix @ Feb 8 2008, 03:04 PM) Y...   Feb 8 2008, 10:34 PM
ersatz   I, too, don't see the problem in any of those ...   Feb 8 2008, 11:49 PM
brooklyneast05   QUOTE(ersatz @ Feb 9 2008, 12:49 AM) I d...   Feb 8 2008, 11:55 PM
kryogenix   QUOTE(ersatz @ Feb 8 2008, 11:49 PM) I, t...   Feb 9 2008, 01:46 AM
BrandonSaunders   QUOTE(kryogenix @ Feb 9 2008, 12:46 AM) P...   Feb 9 2008, 09:07 AM
NoSex   QUOTE(kryogenix @ Feb 9 2008, 12:46 AM) P...   Feb 22 2008, 04:33 AM
kryogenix   QUOTE(NoSex @ Feb 22 2008, 04:33 AM) Oh, ...   Feb 22 2008, 06:58 PM
Tamacracker   QUOTE(BrandonSaunders @ Jan 22 2008, 08:2...   Feb 22 2008, 10:24 AM
brooklyneast05   QUOTE(Tamacracker @ Feb 22 2008, 11:24 AM...   Feb 22 2008, 10:43 AM
Tamacracker   QUOTE(brooklyneast05 @ Feb 22 2008, 10:43...   Feb 22 2008, 11:10 AM
brooklyneast05   QUOTE(Tamacracker @ Feb 22 2008, 12:10 PM...   Feb 22 2008, 12:31 PM
Tamacracker   QUOTE(brooklyneast05 @ Feb 22 2008, 12:31...   Feb 22 2008, 12:54 PM
Tamacracker   Instead of abortions... why not just quickly kill ...   Feb 22 2008, 07:02 PM
paperplane   Shut up.   Feb 22 2008, 07:31 PM
pandora   QUOTE(paperplane @ Feb 22 2008, 04:31 PM)...   Feb 22 2008, 07:40 PM
Tamacracker   QUOTE(paperplane @ Feb 22 2008, 07:31 PM)...   Feb 22 2008, 07:55 PM
paperplane   QUOTE(paperplane @ Feb 22 2008, 07:31 PM)...   Feb 22 2008, 08:10 PM
Tamacracker   This is a debate thread... stop posting if you...   Feb 23 2008, 01:46 AM
NoSex   If you want to discuss the "ethics" of a...   Feb 22 2008, 08:19 PM
paperplane   Take your own advice?   Feb 23 2008, 06:37 PM
Steven   Now now guys, let's stop this mindless incessa...   Feb 23 2008, 09:15 PM
Strive   If you take a look at obama's race on tv. Whe...   Feb 23 2008, 09:42 PM
BrandonSaunders   QUOTE(Strive @ Feb 23 2008, 08:42 PM) If ...   Feb 23 2008, 10:58 PM
YaGurlSukedMe2SLeep   QUOTE(Strive @ Feb 23 2008, 06:42 PM) If ...   Feb 27 2008, 11:24 PM
Steven   the clinton people were like, LOOK OMG HE DOESNT P...   Feb 23 2008, 09:44 PM
paperplane   I guess he's talking about that one picture wh...   Feb 23 2008, 11:00 PM
kryogenix   Obama missed the State of the Black Union, Clinton...   Feb 24 2008, 12:00 AM
BrandonSaunders   QUOTE(kryogenix @ Feb 23 2008, 11:00 PM) ...   Feb 24 2008, 12:01 AM
Tamacracker   QUOTE(BrandonSaunders @ Feb 24 2008, 12:0...   Feb 24 2008, 11:10 PM
BrandonSaunders   QUOTE(Tamacracker @ Feb 24 2008, 10:10 PM...   Feb 24 2008, 11:13 PM
CruelDemeanor   I don't know why is it should matter. If that...   Feb 24 2008, 10:14 PM
Heathasm   barack out with your caucus out!   Feb 24 2008, 10:20 PM
BrandonSaunders   QUOTE(Heathasm @ Feb 24 2008, 09:20 PM) b...   Feb 24 2008, 10:30 PM
brooklyneast05   ^seriously. i didn't get what the big deal ove...   Feb 24 2008, 11:15 PM
kryogenix   BARACK IRAQ HUSSEIN OBAMA BIN LADEN   Feb 24 2008, 11:17 PM
DoubleJ   Yeah, and on top of that, he offered to send Miche...   Feb 24 2008, 11:40 PM
kryogenix   WHOOPS Obama is done   Feb 25 2008, 09:12 AM
NoSex   QUOTE(kryogenix @ Feb 25 2008, 08:12 AM) ...   Feb 27 2008, 04:31 PM
kryogenix   QUOTE(NoSex @ Feb 27 2008, 04:31 PM) Ahhh...   Feb 28 2008, 01:29 AM
paperplane   are you f**king serious?   Feb 28 2008, 01:33 AM
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