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Hillary Clinton
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post Jan 31 2008, 06:56 PM
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watcha think about her?

don't just say you hate her, or think she's a bitch, blah blah blah. i wanna know WHY you like or dislike her.


if you don't know anything about her, her stances, ect...don't reply here please. i really don't give a shit about what you've assumed from looking at her or the fact she's a woman. i want opinions from people who actually have a clue.
 
 
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post Jan 31 2008, 08:08 PM
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Debate? Having this in the lounge gives it visibility and allows us to have an open forum, political discussion, but we must be aware of the idiots.

Wikipedia is God.

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In January 2008 Clinton announced she wanted to enact a "stimulus package" totaling as much as $110 billion, to deal with the effects of a possible recession. The package would consists of funds to help deal with the effect of the subprime mortgage crisis, to help lower-income families pay for higher home energy costs, to extend unemployment insurance, and to possibly provide some tax refunds.[5]

Clinton has not signed the tax cut pledge from Americans for Tax Reform, which pledges not to create new taxes or raise existing ones while in office.[6] Clinton advocates repealing portions of the Bush tax cuts, effectively increasing some taxes to the higher rates which existed in 2000.


That sounds lovely. Fiscal planning that benefits the welfare of the American people. But what concerns me is that, in order to support the blue collar Americans that work their fingers to the bone, only to find out that they can't afford to send their child off to college with extreme debt, she will also be chopping their knees by raising tax. Bitch, sign the paper. I understand that in order to get a little, you need to give a little, but there must be a better way to acquire funds without hurting the people you wish to help.

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"I believe that. That's why I put it in the book...And I just believe that there's got to be a healthy tension among all of our institutions in society, and that the market is the driving force behind our prosperity, our freedom in so many respects to make our lives our own but that it cannot be permitted just to run roughshod over people's lives as well."


Wait... what? So, would you rather a socialist economy? I don't think the American free market is ready for that, toots. Since the world of capitalism is in the pocket of blue-beared conservatives, convincing the country that this will work will be a task from hell. We'd get more support by just destroying Iran and making it a parking lot. America is a consumer society because of capitalism, but because of capitalism, America stands as a wealthy society that can afford to provide a sound financial future for generations to come. I want more details on your ideal "free market," Hilary.

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On December 5, 2007, Clinton unveiled her plan to ameliorate the effects of the 2007 subprime mortgage financial crisis on homeowners. She called for a 90-day moratorium on foreclosures, in order that lenders and mortgage servicers have sufficient time to get through paperwork complications and an expected high volume of troubled borrowers without having to shut out the lights, and a five-year freeze on the interest rates of adjustable rate mortgages, so that borrowers would not get slammed by expected 30, 40 or more percent increases in monthly payments due to the effects of the crisis and of unwise initial borrowing decisions.


Impressive.

How I feel about Hilary on cash, money, cheddar, stack bundles (not the rapper, but RIP to him), paper, etc...

I'm not convinced. However, she shows potential. In this day and age, considering the political crosshairs that she's in, that's not good enough.



 

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brooklyneast05   Hillary Clinton   Jan 31 2008, 06:56 PM
superficial   Hillary Clinton seems to be convincing a lot of pe...   Jan 31 2008, 06:59 PM
YaGurlSukedMe2SLeep   QUOTE(superficial @ Jan 31 2008, 03:59 PM...   Feb 6 2008, 06:09 PM
ArjunaCapulong   QUOTE(YaGurlSukedMe2SLeep @ Feb 6 2008, 06...   Feb 6 2008, 07:22 PM
Steven   QUOTE(ArjunaCapulong @ Feb 6 2008, 06:22 ...   Feb 6 2008, 07:23 PM
YaGurlSukedMe2SLeep   QUOTE(ArjunaCapulong @ Feb 6 2008, 04:22 ...   Feb 7 2008, 12:24 AM
BrandonSaunders   Debate? Having this in the lounge gives it visibil...   Jan 31 2008, 08:08 PM
CowerPointyObjects   Well, I object to the the fact that electing Hilar...   Jan 31 2008, 08:15 PM
ArjunaCapulong   QUOTE(CowerPointyObjects @ Jan 31 2008, 08...   Jan 31 2008, 09:13 PM
BLAZINASIAN   QUOTE(CowerPointyObjects @ Jan 31 2008, 07...   Feb 10 2008, 09:36 PM
paperplane   QUOTE(BLAZINASIAN @ Feb 10 2008, 09:36 PM...   Feb 10 2008, 09:45 PM
YaGurlSukedMe2SLeep   QUOTE(paperplane @ Feb 10 2008, 06:45 PM)...   Feb 11 2008, 12:57 AM
BrandonSaunders   QUOTE(YaGurlSukedMe2SLeep @ Feb 10 2008, 11...   Feb 11 2008, 01:52 AM
YaGurlSukedMe2SLeep   QUOTE(BrandonSaunders @ Feb 10 2008, 10:5...   Feb 12 2008, 10:51 PM
brooklyneast05   as of now it's just expressing opinions/taking...   Jan 31 2008, 08:49 PM
Steven   I hate her attitude. She's arrogant as all he...   Jan 31 2008, 08:52 PM
Elba   I love her! She's going to be at my school...   Jan 31 2008, 08:58 PM
BrandonSaunders   QUOTE(Elba @ Jan 31 2008, 07:58 PM) I lov...   Jan 31 2008, 09:02 PM
Elba   QUOTE(BrandonSaunders @ Jan 31 2008, 06:0...   Jan 31 2008, 09:05 PM
BrandonSaunders   QUOTE(Elba @ Jan 31 2008, 08:05 PM) Why a...   Jan 31 2008, 09:08 PM
Steven   QUOTE(Elba @ Jan 31 2008, 07:58 PM) I lov...   Jan 31 2008, 09:04 PM
Elba   Mmmkay. Didn't know this was a debate. Baibai   Jan 31 2008, 09:09 PM
BrandonSaunders   QUOTE(Elba @ Jan 31 2008, 08:09 PM) Mmmka...   Jan 31 2008, 09:16 PM
Steven   QUOTEwatcha think about her? don't just say y...   Jan 31 2008, 09:09 PM
Elba   I did say why; I didn't "support" my...   Jan 31 2008, 09:11 PM
Steven   yeah f**k the immigrants (illegal ones)! Base...   Jan 31 2008, 09:11 PM
Elba   QUOTELET'S GIVE ALL ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS DRIVERS...   Jan 31 2008, 09:13 PM
Steven   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_B0uHybfmmY   Jan 31 2008, 09:17 PM
Elba   QUOTE(Steven @ Jan 31 2008, 06:17 PM) htt...   Jan 31 2008, 09:21 PM
BrandonSaunders   QUOTE(Elba @ Jan 31 2008, 08:21 PM) This ...   Jan 31 2008, 09:24 PM
CowerPointyObjects   ^haha   Jan 31 2008, 09:24 PM
Elba   Oh, because no one else flip-flops? You're be...   Jan 31 2008, 09:26 PM
CowerPointyObjects   QUOTE(Elba @ Jan 31 2008, 09:26 PM) Oh, b...   Jan 31 2008, 09:37 PM
ArjunaCapulong   RE: Hillary Clinton   Jan 31 2008, 09:28 PM
brooklyneast05   moved to debate   Jan 31 2008, 09:29 PM
DoubleJ   I personally don't have a problem with Mrs. Cl...   Jan 31 2008, 10:53 PM
dyu   if i could vote (not old enough), i wouldn't v...   Feb 1 2008, 09:35 PM
Steven   QUOTE(dyu @ Feb 1 2008, 08:35 PM) if i co...   Feb 2 2008, 12:50 AM
CowerPointyObjects   Whereas you are in 100% agreement with everything ...   Feb 2 2008, 12:06 AM
instantmusic   I don't watch the polls or news on presidentia...   Feb 4 2008, 01:32 AM
BrandonSaunders   QUOTE( @ Feb 4 2008, 12:32 AM) I don...   Feb 4 2008, 01:38 AM
brooklyneast05   QUOTE( @ Feb 4 2008, 02:32 AM) I don...   Feb 4 2008, 07:32 AM
instantmusic   This post has been edited for security reasons.   Feb 4 2008, 11:58 AM
Steven   QUOTE( @ Feb 4 2008, 12:32 AM) I don...   Feb 4 2008, 08:10 AM
brooklyneast05   that wasn't really all that clever why are y...   Feb 4 2008, 12:19 PM
instantmusic   This post has been edited for security reasons.   Feb 4 2008, 12:51 PM
brooklyneast05   good job. that was about 567 times better than you...   Feb 4 2008, 12:59 PM
instantmusic   This post has been edited for security reasons.   Feb 4 2008, 01:29 PM
NoSex   QUOTE( @ Feb 4 2008, 12:29 PM) Also, didn...   Feb 5 2008, 11:57 AM
paperplane   Then why not Edwards? He preaches of his hope for ...   Feb 4 2008, 09:09 PM
instantmusic   This post has been edited for security reasons.   Feb 4 2008, 09:21 PM
DoubleJ   Oh gosh, she was crying again yesterday.   Feb 5 2008, 04:17 PM
ProudLeechLover   i dont like her. or anything she stands for   Feb 5 2008, 05:09 PM
brooklyneast05   QUOTE(ProudLeechLover @ Feb 5 2008, 06:09...   Feb 6 2008, 10:41 AM
Steven   QUOTE(ProudLeechLover @ Feb 5 2008, 04:09...   Feb 6 2008, 01:57 PM
c0cONuTTeR   Tell me this. What do you not like that she stand...   Feb 6 2008, 11:53 AM
B-NOX   In any country, prison is where society sends it...   Feb 6 2008, 01:08 PM
brooklyneast05   QUOTE(B-NOX @ Feb 6 2008, 02:08 PM) ...   Feb 6 2008, 01:25 PM
instantmusic   This post has been edited for security reasons.   Feb 6 2008, 05:05 PM
kryogenix   Hilary Clinton is a giant turd. She is not a New Y...   Feb 9 2008, 02:20 AM
pandamonium   QUOTE(kryogenix @ Feb 9 2008, 02:20 AM) T...   Feb 9 2008, 02:51 AM
BrandonSaunders   When people refer to the "experience" th...   Feb 9 2008, 09:03 AM
Teesa   ^Yeah, Hillary has had experience in the White Hou...   Feb 9 2008, 05:41 PM
paperplane   QUOTE(YaGurlSukedMe2SLeep @ Feb 11 2008, 12...   Feb 11 2008, 08:39 AM
Tamacracker   Plain and simple... her views/agenda seem very com...   Feb 14 2008, 08:33 PM


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