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How to explain homosexuality?
Call911Quick
post Jan 17 2008, 04:54 AM
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OK, so as not to step on any toes, let's assume evolution is how the world came about.

Now, homosexuality goes against every theory of evolution that has been thought up. There are certain lizards somewhere that are all female, but they don't have sex. They lay unfertilized eggs, so essentially they clone themselves.

We're studying how and why sex and sexual reproduction developed and everything. So, obviously, homosexuality isn't "programmed" into us.

So what makes a guy gay? Is it increased levels of estrogen? Decreased levels of testosterone? Is it psychological/self-induced, or can you not help it?

I don't understand how any guy can be gay. Lesbians turn me on, but I mean... Ever take a REALLY big shit? Imagine that, but backwards. And continuous. I mean... it's like watching two porcupines have sex. Wait, that's a bad metaphor, more like... watching gorillas have sex.
 
 
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post Jan 30 2008, 01:20 PM
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QUOTE(monster @ Jan 30 2008, 03:08 AM) *
n*gga that shits gay


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After reading all of the replys, it is interesting. I can only speculate as to why it is.

No I don't believe it has anything to do at all with evolution. We are "turning" gay because of evolution. I believe it is because of how you were raised and how you reacted personally with your environment. In other words in regards with psychology. Also, I am open to how you may have different reactions of chemicals in your brain.

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post Jan 30 2008, 05:27 PM
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QUOTE(Flyinryan874 @ Jan 30 2008, 10:20 AM) *
any addition to this topic? _unsure.gif

After reading all of the replys, it is interesting. I can only speculate as to why it is.

No I don't believe it has anything to do at all with evolution. We are "turning" gay because of evolution. I believe it is because of how you were raised and how you reacted personally with your environment. In other words in regards with psychology. Also, I am open to how you may have different reactions of chemicals in your brain.


Lol. That wasn't my point. The point was, if we're going to chalk homosexuality as "wrong" because evolution made reproduction possible only through male and female relations, then what's the say in the future that homosexual relations won't produce the same. You can't base a theory on evolution if you're not 100% that evolution has ended.

It's all in the mind.

It IS psychological. I agree on that, but what does chemicals in the brain have anything to do with this? That's like saying liking strawberries more than cranberries is a chemical reaction in the brain.

Then it brings us to the point of, who stipulated that all relations have to HAVE the capacity for reproduction.
 
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post Jan 30 2008, 05:52 PM
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QUOTE(agiri @ Jan 30 2008, 04:27 PM) *
It IS psychological. I agree on that, but what does chemicals in the brain have anything to do with this? That's like saying liking strawberries more than cranberries is a chemical reaction in the brain.


I'll say it: Liking strawberries more than cranberries is a chemical reaction in the brain. f**k, everything is a chemical reaction in the brain. Sure, out taste pallet has a lot to do with this, but only in relation to the illicit response, in our brain and carried out by chemical markers, that is created biologically.

Sure, a lot of things are psychological, but only to the degree that our nature, our biology, permits. Not matter how convinced we are that we can fly, the shit just ain't going to happen. What we do know is that sexual orientation has not been observed to freely change due to external nurture and stimulus in, at least, adult years and sexual maturity. What we do know is that the complex play of hormonal activity, which largely excites sexual thought and behavior, is controlled by proteins, which are genetically released.

So, in short, "chemical reactions in the brain" have a shit load to do with it.
 

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Call911Quick   How to explain homosexuality?   Jan 17 2008, 04:54 AM
Insurmountable   ...QUOTEwatching gorillas have sex. That makes me ...   Jan 17 2008, 04:59 AM
pandamonium   QUOTE(Insurmountable @ Jan 17 2008, 04:59...   Jan 17 2008, 10:58 AM
ersatz   The same way depression or bipolar disorder or psy...   Jan 17 2008, 08:25 AM
S-Majere   Ah, but scientists have forced animals (male rams ...   Jan 17 2008, 08:29 AM
ersatz   QUOTE(S-Majere @ Jan 17 2008, 07:29 ...   Jan 17 2008, 05:38 PM
Call911Quick   But we know the reason for genetic disorders. Is ...   Jan 17 2008, 08:35 AM
S-Majere   QUOTE(Call911Quick @ Jan 17 2008, 08:35 A...   Jan 17 2008, 08:44 AM
Steven   BEING HOMOSEXUAL MEANS YOU'RE BROKEN AND YOU H...   Jan 17 2008, 12:18 PM
brooklyneast05   god made gay people gay.   Jan 17 2008, 01:04 PM
Steven   QUOTE(brooklyneast05 @ Jan 17 2008, 12:04...   Jan 17 2008, 01:09 PM
brooklyneast05   QUOTE(Steven @ Jan 17 2008, 02:09 PM) wha...   Jan 17 2008, 01:12 PM
B-NOX   where brooklyn at where brooklyn at biggie was ...   Jan 17 2008, 02:01 PM
brooklyneast05   QUOTE(B-NOX @ Jan 17 2008, 03:01 PM)...   Jan 17 2008, 02:02 PM
B-NOX   okay okay ( masta ace was from booklyn too)   Jan 17 2008, 02:06 PM
sheridan_whiteside   The OP is woefully ignorant of the vibrant gorilla...   Jan 17 2008, 05:37 PM
yrrnotelekktric   QUOTE(Call911Quick @ Jan 17 2008, 01:54 A...   Jan 18 2008, 05:22 AM
resplendence   Didn't we have like 20 other topics like this?...   Jan 29 2008, 02:41 PM
LoveToMySilas   Actually, it IS programmed into some of us. I reme...   Jan 29 2008, 02:52 PM
ersatz   I think some people are getting confused when sayi...   Jan 29 2008, 04:24 PM
IGetSex   As a gay man I am terrifically offended by this to...   Jan 29 2008, 10:36 PM
agiri   An aversion to homosexuality, or the belief that i...   Jan 30 2008, 01:51 AM
monster   n*gga that shits gay   Jan 30 2008, 03:08 AM
Flyinryan874   QUOTE(monster @ Jan 30 2008, 03:08 AM) n*...   Jan 30 2008, 01:20 PM
agiri   QUOTE(Flyinryan874 @ Jan 30 2008, 10:20 A...   Jan 30 2008, 05:27 PM
NoSex   QUOTE(agiri @ Jan 30 2008, 04:27 PM) It I...   Jan 30 2008, 05:52 PM
agiri   Fair enough. Then why should the choice between st...   Jan 30 2008, 06:11 PM
resplendence   The chemical reactions differ for each person. Som...   Jan 30 2008, 06:31 PM
BrandonSaunders   QUOTE(resplendence @ Jan 30 2008, 05:31 P...   Feb 9 2008, 09:22 AM
resplendence   ^The happy chemicals get released or are stimulate...   Feb 10 2008, 11:03 PM
BrandonSaunders   QUOTE(resplendence @ Feb 10 2008, 10:03 P...   Feb 11 2008, 12:16 AM
NoSex   QUOTE(BrandonSaunders @ Feb 10 2008, 11:1...   Feb 11 2008, 09:15 PM
resplendence   ^I'm sorry. I thought you thought that the che...   Feb 11 2008, 07:52 PM


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