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This has been bugging me., Leave religion at the door.
Call911Quick
post Jan 9 2008, 04:56 AM
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Okay, so, we all know how our bodies work right? We're made up of tons of cells, etc.

The cells operate passively. That is, something happens which triggers a reaction. Blood passes through lungs, oxygen passively diffuses into the blood and into the cell. When you have molecules such as glucose which need to be broken down, they literally float around until they bump into amylase or something like that, which would cause a reaction.

So every cell in our bodies passively do things.

Now, my problem is:

If this holds true for our brains (neurons) as well, then that would mean every emotion, memory, action, and thought would be a result of a series of chemical reactions. That is grasp-able, but what's really weird is... if it's PASSIVE, are we really in control of what we THINK? For example, if I'm thinking of penguins right now, is it because my neurons CHOSE to do that, or because a protein happened to be in a certain place at a certain time which caused me to think of penguins.

Psychologists study thoughts, and basically, they can tell which part of the brain is active when we think about certain things. So... thinking is just our neurons sending each other electrical signals really really fast and in a complex manner. Now, in order to send these signals, it's caused by diffusing Potassium and some other stuff, I don't really recall. At any rate, it's all passive. So if everything is passive, and something has to happen by chance to trigger a reaction...

Are we really in control of what we think and do?

Humans can be though of complex machines that are able to power themselves. If we stopped eating, we would die. If we built a robot with AI, that robot would sustain itself by getting energy from other sources, such as re-fueling or re-charging itself. How are we any different? We are just robots. What makes us "organic" is that we are comprised mainly of carbon, oxygen, hydrogen, and nitrogen.

Thus, if you think of life as a mere series of chemical reactions, there's nothing "morally wrong" with killing someone, because you are merely stopping certain reactions from happening. No big deal. Maybe this is why certain scientists can be thought of as "without a conscience", because they view life that way, and don't have a problem with experimenting on people, etc.




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Okay, let's say I have a twin (I don't). Our brains as babies when we exit the uterus would be EXACTLY the same. Perhaps they grow differently as we are affected by our surroundings, but fresh outta our mom, we would be EXACTLY the same. If we're EXACTLY the same, how come we don't think EXACTLY the same thoughts? What is it that makes me cry but my twin brother not? Why do I want the red toy, while he wants the blue one? How come when I choose to suck on my left toe as a baby, my brother doesn't? Theoretically, since our physical buildup is exactly the SAME... we should be doing exactly the SAME things also. Right?
 
 
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Call911Quick   This has been bugging me.   Jan 9 2008, 04:56 AM
yrrnotelekktric   ^those are very philosophical questions. for the ...   Jan 9 2008, 03:01 PM
ersatz   Your brains are not exactly the same. You do have ...   Jan 9 2008, 04:42 PM
NoSex   QUOTE(Call911Quick @ Jan 9 2008, 03:56 AM...   Jan 9 2008, 05:25 PM
Call911Quick   I've been thinking about this for a while. It...   Jan 10 2008, 06:20 AM
ersatz   It shouldn't be; two people just explained it ...   Jan 10 2008, 08:16 AM
Call911Quick   Two people offered their opinions. You explained ...   Jan 10 2008, 09:04 AM
ersatz   QUOTE(Call911Quick @ Jan 10 2008, 08:04 A...   Jan 10 2008, 12:41 PM
NoSex   QUOTE(ersatz @ Jan 10 2008, 11:41 AM) No....   Jan 11 2008, 12:28 AM
ersatz   QUOTE(NoSex @ Jan 10 2008, 11:28 PM) What...   Jan 11 2008, 12:25 PM
NoSex   QUOTE(ersatz @ Jan 11 2008, 11:25 AM) Thi...   Jan 11 2008, 04:37 PM
ersatz   QUOTE(NoSex @ Jan 11 2008, 03:37 PM) Word...   Jan 12 2008, 11:48 PM
NoSex   QUOTE(ersatz @ Jan 12 2008, 10:48 PM) I...   Jan 15 2008, 05:33 PM
Steven   You know all of this is God's will, right? Ev...   Jan 10 2008, 09:17 AM
monster   We die, and our souls go places.   Jan 10 2008, 11:55 AM
Steven   Heaven or hell, if you will. Sometimes the river ...   Jan 10 2008, 12:04 PM
ArjunaCapulong   Depends on who or what exactly you think you are. ...   Jan 10 2008, 04:35 PM
heartquasm   Actually, identical twins DO have the exact same D...   Jan 10 2008, 07:39 PM
tungmyBANANA   http://www.exile.ru/articles/detail.php?AR...mp;IB...   Jan 11 2008, 02:19 AM
Call911Quick   When I say "my book", it means the book ...   Jan 11 2008, 08:51 PM
ersatz   QUOTEWhat you seem to be arguing is a sort of ...   Jan 15 2008, 09:16 PM
NoSex   QUOTE(ersatz @ Jan 15 2008, 08:16 PM) I ...   Jan 20 2008, 03:30 AM
Joss-eh-lime   when you randomly think of something, you are just...   Jan 20 2008, 02:55 AM
Call911Quick   Have you guys seen the Matrix trilogy? There...   Jan 21 2008, 10:25 AM


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