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Will religion fade out?
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post Dec 20 2007, 12:38 PM
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QUOTE(S-Majere @ Dec 20 2007, 11:33 AM) *
I think eventually religion will just fade out.

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QUOTE(Steven @ Dec 20 2007, 11:37 AM) *
Nope. People need religion. There are so many who don't want to search for an answer or an explanation to the unexplained, and religion is a very easy answer. Why did this happen? Oh, god's will!



So, will religion fade out? Maybe organized religion? Ideas? Thoughts?
 
 
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post Dec 20 2007, 01:41 PM
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as long as poor, weak, and ignorant people exist, so will religion imo

 
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post Dec 20 2007, 03:09 PM
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QUOTE(brooklyneast05 @ Dec 20 2007, 01:41 PM) *
as long as poor, weak, and ignorant people exist, so will religion imo


There's no pride in being able to claim you don't believe in something because there's no evidence in it. A 10 year old can figure out that much. Having true, developed faith in a religion and living your life based on that faith takes much more willpower and discipline. You're full of shit if you think people like... say, Shaolin Monks or Mother Teresa have less discipline than your average internet atheist.

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in my opinion there's a good reason that poor and uneducated people tend to be more religious that rich educated ones. in call cases is this true? no of course not.


Could it be that once man has achieved heaven on Earth, he forgets that his real goal should be heaven after death?

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science will always exist, because people will always strive to understand the world around them. religion in my opinion doesn't explain things, religion doesn't advance. science closes more and more gaps the further we go. god is going to run out of places to hide, but as long as there are scientifically ignorant people, religion will be ok.


The truth doesn't change, therefore dogma doesn't change. Science is man's attempt to understand the world. Man is imperfect so science is imperfect and needs to be refined.

And you're misunderstanding the relationship between science and religion. There shouldn't be an antagonistic relationship between science and religion. Who is the father of Modern Genetics? Who made the Big Bang Theory?

The Church isn't afraid of science, why is science afraid of the Church?

Formerly, when religion was strong and science weak, men mistook magic for medicine; now, when science is strong and religion weak, men mistake medicine for magic.

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post Dec 23 2007, 01:00 PM
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I completely agree with Kryogenix.

But I don't believe that religion will fade out.
Religion has been a major part of all societies for so long.
I don't believe something so grounded in life could just simply fade away.

The desire to understand and explain life and its trials helps drive religion. Science simply cannot explain why human life is as it is, why we have good days and bad days, why we're here, why children die, etc., not only for me but for others as well.
 
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post Dec 23 2007, 02:09 PM
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Science simply cannot explain why human life is as it is, why we have good days and bad days, why we're here, why children die, etc., not only for me but for others as well.

LOL Yes it can.

Children die for many reasons, all explained by science or House M.D.
We're here because we engineered boats and sailed across the ocean and landed here. Then we used different methods and stuff (all explained by science) to build houses and travel.
We have good days and bad days based on events and chemicals in our brains. If I remembered my psychology class I could explain more but I would be making a fool of myself to try to use big words I don't remember :(
Human life is as it is due to evolution (DUN DUN DUNNNNNNNNNNNNNN)
 
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post Dec 23 2007, 08:55 PM
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QUOTE(brooklyneast05 @ Dec 23 2007, 01:02 PM) *
religion explains why children die?
i've been trying to figure out for a long time how religion explains children who die in cruel and painful ways.

idk, that's just more stuff i don't get about religion. i don't get someone who needs some grand explanation for why they had a bad day. i have bad days because not all days are gonna be great. that's all there is to it.

religion doesn't give me a good answer for any of those. i don't think religion answers anything at all. i guess for some people it does though. so i agree that as long as some are satisfied with it, it will exist.


I've thought those same things and I have struggled with my religion.

I'm not trying to say that religion explains these things, I'm just saying that for me (maybe I'm just foolish) the belief that there is someone out there (I say in heaven) who is bigger/better/more important than me who relates to me, seeks me out of the crowd, and is there for meditation when my mom/dad/sister/best friend doesn't feel like listening is quite comforting.





QUOTE(Steven @ Dec 23 2007, 02:09 PM) *
LOL Yes it can.

Children die for many reasons, all explained by science or House M.D.
We're here because we engineered boats and sailed across the ocean and landed here. Then we used different methods and stuff (all explained by science) to build houses and travel.
We have good days and bad days based on events and chemicals in our brains. If I remembered my psychology class I could explain more but I would be making a fool of myself to try to use big words I don't remember :(
Human life is as it is due to evolution (DUN DUN DUNNNNNNNNNNNNNN)


Thanks for the explanation, you've cleared this up for me. See, JC, Steven to the rescue =]
 

Posts in this topic
Steven   Will religion fade out?   Dec 20 2007, 12:38 PM
MissHygienic   Hmm, this is my non-religious take on it. My plai...   Dec 20 2007, 01:03 PM
kryogenix   It's to my understanding that people who are l...   Dec 20 2007, 05:13 PM
MissFits   No, their are new religions created all the time. ...   Dec 20 2007, 01:37 PM
brooklyneast05   as long as poor, weak, and ignorant people exist, ...   Dec 20 2007, 01:41 PM
Joss-eh-lime   QUOTE(brooklyneast05 @ Dec 20 2007, 10:41...   Dec 20 2007, 02:35 PM
brooklyneast05   QUOTE(Joss-eh-lime @ Dec 20 2007, 0...   Dec 20 2007, 02:46 PM
kryogenix   QUOTE(brooklyneast05 @ Dec 20 2007, 01:41...   Dec 20 2007, 03:09 PM
brooklyneast05   QUOTE(kryogenix @ Dec 20 2007, 04:09 PM) ...   Dec 20 2007, 04:25 PM
NoSex   QUOTE(kryogenix @ Dec 20 2007, 02:09 PM) ...   Dec 21 2007, 06:11 PM
kryogenix   QUOTE(NoSex @ Dec 21 2007, 06:11 PM) Give...   Dec 23 2007, 04:33 PM
NoSex   QUOTE(kryogenix @ Dec 23 2007, 03:33 PM) ...   Dec 23 2007, 08:49 PM
kryogenix   QUOTE(NoSex @ Dec 23 2007, 08:49 PM) So w...   Dec 24 2007, 01:01 AM
ersatz   QUOTE(kryogenix @ Dec 24 2007, 12:01 AM) ...   Dec 24 2007, 01:49 PM
NoSex   QUOTE(ersatz @ Dec 24 2007, 12:49 PM) I d...   Dec 24 2007, 02:04 PM
SoEffinMajor   I completely agree with Kryogenix. But I don...   Dec 23 2007, 01:00 PM
brooklyneast05   QUOTE(SoEffinMajor @ Dec 23 2007, 02:00 P...   Dec 23 2007, 01:02 PM
Steven   QUOTE(SoEffinMajor @ Dec 23 2007, 12:00 P...   Dec 23 2007, 02:09 PM
SoEffinMajor   QUOTE(brooklyneast05 @ Dec 23 2007, 01:02...   Dec 23 2007, 08:55 PM
WakingLife   QUOTE(brooklyneast05 @ Dec 20 2007, 12:41...   Jan 3 2008, 05:44 PM
CowerPointyObjects   I saw an episode of South Park the other day in wh...   Dec 20 2007, 01:47 PM
Steven   Southpark is ftw. For instance, smog meets smug. ...   Dec 20 2007, 02:33 PM
Steven   ^You just interpreted it as if he said all rectang...   Dec 20 2007, 02:42 PM
ArjunaCapulong   ^ Yeah, I actually agree somewhat. I mean, I...   Dec 20 2007, 03:18 PM
stacygreen   Religion will never die as long as Utah lives.   Dec 20 2007, 04:18 PM
MissHygienic   I think you underestimate the power of parental in...   Dec 20 2007, 06:21 PM
kryogenix   QUOTE(MissHygienic @ Dec 20 2007, 06:21 P...   Dec 20 2007, 07:30 PM
MissHygienic   QUOTE(kryogenix @ Dec 20 2007, 07:30 PM) ...   Dec 21 2007, 02:50 AM
mycupoftea   No, (like others have said), it will not go out BE...   Dec 20 2007, 07:39 PM
xfrodobagginsx   QUOTE(Steven @ Dec 20 2007, 12:38 PM) So,...   Dec 21 2007, 12:51 AM
Steven   QUOTE(xfrodobagginsx @ Dec 20 2007, 11:51...   Dec 21 2007, 09:58 AM
Joss-eh-lime   QUOTE(xfrodobagginsx @ Dec 20 2007, 09:51...   Dec 22 2007, 10:10 PM
LoveToMySilas   I highly doubt that religion will just vanish afte...   Dec 23 2007, 01:10 AM
Fist   Unless we found out .. another creature were the o...   Dec 23 2007, 05:57 PM
Bishinobi   ^I never understood the concept of fasting, nor bl...   Dec 23 2007, 08:53 PM
Steven   RE: Will religion fade out?   Dec 24 2007, 01:03 AM
Call911Quick   ^ that looks photoshopped   Dec 24 2007, 01:21 AM
ArjunaCapulong   I'm pretty sure it's not photoshopped. I...   Dec 24 2007, 01:25 AM
Steven   It's not photoshopped. That picture was taken...   Dec 24 2007, 01:29 AM
The-Abominable-CPillar   Of course it will, given time, everything fades ou...   Dec 24 2007, 12:26 PM
Steven   Sure maybe religious figures will fade out, but I ...   Dec 24 2007, 01:27 PM
IGetSex   QUOTE(Steven @ Dec 24 2007, 01:27 PM) Sur...   Dec 24 2007, 01:43 PM
ArjunaCapulong   What if you were born into an atheist family? We...   Dec 24 2007, 03:01 PM
ersatz   I don't really care what belief system is forc...   Dec 24 2007, 07:02 PM
jaeman   Religion will not fade out.   Jan 3 2008, 09:04 PM


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