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Will religion fade out?
*Steven*
post Dec 20 2007, 12:38 PM
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QUOTE(S-Majere @ Dec 20 2007, 11:33 AM) *
I think eventually religion will just fade out.

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QUOTE(Steven @ Dec 20 2007, 11:37 AM) *
Nope. People need religion. There are so many who don't want to search for an answer or an explanation to the unexplained, and religion is a very easy answer. Why did this happen? Oh, god's will!



So, will religion fade out? Maybe organized religion? Ideas? Thoughts?
 
 
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post Dec 20 2007, 01:41 PM
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as long as poor, weak, and ignorant people exist, so will religion imo

 
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post Dec 20 2007, 03:09 PM
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QUOTE(brooklyneast05 @ Dec 20 2007, 01:41 PM) *
as long as poor, weak, and ignorant people exist, so will religion imo


There's no pride in being able to claim you don't believe in something because there's no evidence in it. A 10 year old can figure out that much. Having true, developed faith in a religion and living your life based on that faith takes much more willpower and discipline. You're full of shit if you think people like... say, Shaolin Monks or Mother Teresa have less discipline than your average internet atheist.

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in my opinion there's a good reason that poor and uneducated people tend to be more religious that rich educated ones. in call cases is this true? no of course not.


Could it be that once man has achieved heaven on Earth, he forgets that his real goal should be heaven after death?

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science will always exist, because people will always strive to understand the world around them. religion in my opinion doesn't explain things, religion doesn't advance. science closes more and more gaps the further we go. god is going to run out of places to hide, but as long as there are scientifically ignorant people, religion will be ok.


The truth doesn't change, therefore dogma doesn't change. Science is man's attempt to understand the world. Man is imperfect so science is imperfect and needs to be refined.

And you're misunderstanding the relationship between science and religion. There shouldn't be an antagonistic relationship between science and religion. Who is the father of Modern Genetics? Who made the Big Bang Theory?

The Church isn't afraid of science, why is science afraid of the Church?

Formerly, when religion was strong and science weak, men mistook magic for medicine; now, when science is strong and religion weak, men mistake medicine for magic.

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post Dec 21 2007, 06:11 PM
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QUOTE(kryogenix @ Dec 20 2007, 02:09 PM) *
There's no pride in being able to claim you don't believe in something because there's no evidence in it. A 10 year old can figure out that much. Having true, developed faith in a religion and living your life based on that faith takes much more willpower and discipline. You're full of shit if you think people like... say, Shaolin Monks or Mother Teresa have less discipline than your average internet atheist.


Given the amount of people that rather explicitly and loudly believe in something despite an utter lack of evidence, I actually think denying such a behavior and categorizing it as foolish and absurd is something to be proud of. I mean, a lot of different things take all sorts of willpower and discipline - flying those planes into the World Trade Centers and drinking the purple Kool-Aid for example - but that doesn't necessitate that one should be prideful of said dedication and or that others should admire those who hold it. Either way you cut that nasty ass cake, your argument reduces to, "People should be proud of closing their eyes and vehemently refusing to open them! I mean, that takes so much effort and time! Belief in things for which there is no evidence is so cool!"

Shaloin Monks are boring and Mother Teresa is a bitch - seriously.
 

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Steven   Will religion fade out?   Dec 20 2007, 12:38 PM
MissHygienic   Hmm, this is my non-religious take on it. My plai...   Dec 20 2007, 01:03 PM
kryogenix   It's to my understanding that people who are l...   Dec 20 2007, 05:13 PM
MissFits   No, their are new religions created all the time. ...   Dec 20 2007, 01:37 PM
brooklyneast05   as long as poor, weak, and ignorant people exist, ...   Dec 20 2007, 01:41 PM
Joss-eh-lime   QUOTE(brooklyneast05 @ Dec 20 2007, 10:41...   Dec 20 2007, 02:35 PM
brooklyneast05   QUOTE(Joss-eh-lime @ Dec 20 2007, 0...   Dec 20 2007, 02:46 PM
kryogenix   QUOTE(brooklyneast05 @ Dec 20 2007, 01:41...   Dec 20 2007, 03:09 PM
brooklyneast05   QUOTE(kryogenix @ Dec 20 2007, 04:09 PM) ...   Dec 20 2007, 04:25 PM
NoSex   QUOTE(kryogenix @ Dec 20 2007, 02:09 PM) ...   Dec 21 2007, 06:11 PM
kryogenix   QUOTE(NoSex @ Dec 21 2007, 06:11 PM) Give...   Dec 23 2007, 04:33 PM
NoSex   QUOTE(kryogenix @ Dec 23 2007, 03:33 PM) ...   Dec 23 2007, 08:49 PM
kryogenix   QUOTE(NoSex @ Dec 23 2007, 08:49 PM) So w...   Dec 24 2007, 01:01 AM
ersatz   QUOTE(kryogenix @ Dec 24 2007, 12:01 AM) ...   Dec 24 2007, 01:49 PM
NoSex   QUOTE(ersatz @ Dec 24 2007, 12:49 PM) I d...   Dec 24 2007, 02:04 PM
SoEffinMajor   I completely agree with Kryogenix. But I don...   Dec 23 2007, 01:00 PM
brooklyneast05   QUOTE(SoEffinMajor @ Dec 23 2007, 02:00 P...   Dec 23 2007, 01:02 PM
Steven   QUOTE(SoEffinMajor @ Dec 23 2007, 12:00 P...   Dec 23 2007, 02:09 PM
SoEffinMajor   QUOTE(brooklyneast05 @ Dec 23 2007, 01:02...   Dec 23 2007, 08:55 PM
WakingLife   QUOTE(brooklyneast05 @ Dec 20 2007, 12:41...   Jan 3 2008, 05:44 PM
CowerPointyObjects   I saw an episode of South Park the other day in wh...   Dec 20 2007, 01:47 PM
Steven   Southpark is ftw. For instance, smog meets smug. ...   Dec 20 2007, 02:33 PM
Steven   ^You just interpreted it as if he said all rectang...   Dec 20 2007, 02:42 PM
ArjunaCapulong   ^ Yeah, I actually agree somewhat. I mean, I...   Dec 20 2007, 03:18 PM
stacygreen   Religion will never die as long as Utah lives.   Dec 20 2007, 04:18 PM
MissHygienic   I think you underestimate the power of parental in...   Dec 20 2007, 06:21 PM
kryogenix   QUOTE(MissHygienic @ Dec 20 2007, 06:21 P...   Dec 20 2007, 07:30 PM
MissHygienic   QUOTE(kryogenix @ Dec 20 2007, 07:30 PM) ...   Dec 21 2007, 02:50 AM
mycupoftea   No, (like others have said), it will not go out BE...   Dec 20 2007, 07:39 PM
xfrodobagginsx   QUOTE(Steven @ Dec 20 2007, 12:38 PM) So,...   Dec 21 2007, 12:51 AM
Steven   QUOTE(xfrodobagginsx @ Dec 20 2007, 11:51...   Dec 21 2007, 09:58 AM
Joss-eh-lime   QUOTE(xfrodobagginsx @ Dec 20 2007, 09:51...   Dec 22 2007, 10:10 PM
LoveToMySilas   I highly doubt that religion will just vanish afte...   Dec 23 2007, 01:10 AM
Fist   Unless we found out .. another creature were the o...   Dec 23 2007, 05:57 PM
Bishinobi   ^I never understood the concept of fasting, nor bl...   Dec 23 2007, 08:53 PM
Steven   RE: Will religion fade out?   Dec 24 2007, 01:03 AM
Call911Quick   ^ that looks photoshopped   Dec 24 2007, 01:21 AM
ArjunaCapulong   I'm pretty sure it's not photoshopped. I...   Dec 24 2007, 01:25 AM
Steven   It's not photoshopped. That picture was taken...   Dec 24 2007, 01:29 AM
The-Abominable-CPillar   Of course it will, given time, everything fades ou...   Dec 24 2007, 12:26 PM
Steven   Sure maybe religious figures will fade out, but I ...   Dec 24 2007, 01:27 PM
IGetSex   QUOTE(Steven @ Dec 24 2007, 01:27 PM) Sur...   Dec 24 2007, 01:43 PM
ArjunaCapulong   What if you were born into an atheist family? We...   Dec 24 2007, 03:01 PM
ersatz   I don't really care what belief system is forc...   Dec 24 2007, 07:02 PM
jaeman   Religion will not fade out.   Jan 3 2008, 09:04 PM


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