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Will religion fade out?
*Steven*
post Dec 20 2007, 12:38 PM
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I think eventually religion will just fade out.

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QUOTE(Steven @ Dec 20 2007, 11:37 AM) *
Nope. People need religion. There are so many who don't want to search for an answer or an explanation to the unexplained, and religion is a very easy answer. Why did this happen? Oh, god's will!



So, will religion fade out? Maybe organized religion? Ideas? Thoughts?
 
 
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MissHygienic
post Dec 20 2007, 01:03 PM
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Hmm, this is my non-religious take on it.

My plain answer: No. Few spend the time to examine why they believe what they believe. Most understand what they believe and may study it thoughtfully and not hesitating to declare their opinions. A child's mind is like an empty hole waiting to be filled with information, and whatever is installed first has the best chance of staying permanently.

The majority of Christians are so because they were raised by Christians. The majority of Muslims were raised by Muslims. The majority of Hindus were raised by Hindus. Even those who reject their own religion later on in life hold traces of their religious beliefs because they grew up around it. Whether it be saving your virginity until marriage, wanting to have a family right out of high school, or that abortion is always wrong.

Religion is far too universally popular to fade out. Religion is a powerful tool in which certain beliefs or ideas are no longer about the world at large, but is something woven into people's personality and mind. The beliefs become part of them at a deep, intrinsic level. I think a lot of people find religion to be absolute unlike the rest of the world. Nothing God says can be faulted; every word in the Bible is 100 percent true.

Whatever gets into a mind first, stays the longest. Adults are more than happy to teach children what to think, but rarely teach the child how to think. Critical thinking requires asking a lot of questions. Critical thinking requires gathered evidence to reach a quality conclusion rather than saying something along the lines of, "Because I/God said so."
 
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post Dec 20 2007, 05:13 PM
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It's to my understanding that people who are less disciplined in their religion tend to be more fickle and more likely to abandon it. Supposedly like half of the people who attend those megachurches leave within a year or two.


QUOTE(MissHygienic @ Dec 20 2007, 01:03 PM) *
Hmm, this is my non-religious take on it.

My plain answer: No. Few spend the time to examine why they believe what they believe. Most understand what they believe and may study it thoughtfully and not hesitating to declare their opinions. A child's mind is like an empty hole waiting to be filled with information, and whatever is installed first has the best chance of staying permanently.

The majority of Christians are so because they were raised by Christians. The majority of Muslims were raised by Muslims. The majority of Hindus were raised by Hindus. Even those who reject their own religion later on in life hold traces of their religious beliefs because they grew up around it. Whether it be saving your virginity until marriage, wanting to have a family right out of high school, or that abortion is always wrong.

Religion is far too universally popular to fade out. Religion is a powerful tool in which certain beliefs or ideas are no longer about the world at large, but is something woven into people's personality and mind. The beliefs become part of them at a deep, intrinsic level. I think a lot of people find religion to be absolute unlike the rest of the world. Nothing God says can be faulted; every word in the Bible is 100 percent true.

Whatever gets into a mind first, stays the longest. Adults are more than happy to teach children what to think, but rarely teach the child how to think. Critical thinking requires asking a lot of questions. Critical thinking requires gathered evidence to reach a quality conclusion rather than saying something along the lines of, "Because I/God said so."


What got into my mind as a child was that I could piss myself and shit in my diapers. I don't know about you, but I've long since outgrown that.

I'm sick of this notion that all religious people are brainwashed from their birth and never question their faith. My objection isn't with the conclusion that there won't be any more religion, but that the uneducated and gullible masses will be the guardian of old religion throughout time.

When Europe was going to shit in the Dark Ages, what happened? What were the uneducated and gullible masses doing? People thought the world was going to end, forgot about religion and partied like there would be no tomorrow. Who was it that spent that time writing everything down and preserving knowledge? Monks.

When Christ told St. Peter that he would be the foundation of the Church and that hell would never prevail against it, I seriously doubt he meant that the Church would be fine as long as there were enough brainless people to join it.
 

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Steven   Will religion fade out?   Dec 20 2007, 12:38 PM
MissHygienic   Hmm, this is my non-religious take on it. My plai...   Dec 20 2007, 01:03 PM
kryogenix   It's to my understanding that people who are l...   Dec 20 2007, 05:13 PM
MissFits   No, their are new religions created all the time. ...   Dec 20 2007, 01:37 PM
brooklyneast05   as long as poor, weak, and ignorant people exist, ...   Dec 20 2007, 01:41 PM
Joss-eh-lime   QUOTE(brooklyneast05 @ Dec 20 2007, 10:41...   Dec 20 2007, 02:35 PM
brooklyneast05   QUOTE(Joss-eh-lime @ Dec 20 2007, 0...   Dec 20 2007, 02:46 PM
kryogenix   QUOTE(brooklyneast05 @ Dec 20 2007, 01:41...   Dec 20 2007, 03:09 PM
brooklyneast05   QUOTE(kryogenix @ Dec 20 2007, 04:09 PM) ...   Dec 20 2007, 04:25 PM
NoSex   QUOTE(kryogenix @ Dec 20 2007, 02:09 PM) ...   Dec 21 2007, 06:11 PM
kryogenix   QUOTE(NoSex @ Dec 21 2007, 06:11 PM) Give...   Dec 23 2007, 04:33 PM
NoSex   QUOTE(kryogenix @ Dec 23 2007, 03:33 PM) ...   Dec 23 2007, 08:49 PM
kryogenix   QUOTE(NoSex @ Dec 23 2007, 08:49 PM) So w...   Dec 24 2007, 01:01 AM
ersatz   QUOTE(kryogenix @ Dec 24 2007, 12:01 AM) ...   Dec 24 2007, 01:49 PM
NoSex   QUOTE(ersatz @ Dec 24 2007, 12:49 PM) I d...   Dec 24 2007, 02:04 PM
SoEffinMajor   I completely agree with Kryogenix. But I don...   Dec 23 2007, 01:00 PM
brooklyneast05   QUOTE(SoEffinMajor @ Dec 23 2007, 02:00 P...   Dec 23 2007, 01:02 PM
Steven   QUOTE(SoEffinMajor @ Dec 23 2007, 12:00 P...   Dec 23 2007, 02:09 PM
SoEffinMajor   QUOTE(brooklyneast05 @ Dec 23 2007, 01:02...   Dec 23 2007, 08:55 PM
WakingLife   QUOTE(brooklyneast05 @ Dec 20 2007, 12:41...   Jan 3 2008, 05:44 PM
CowerPointyObjects   I saw an episode of South Park the other day in wh...   Dec 20 2007, 01:47 PM
Steven   Southpark is ftw. For instance, smog meets smug. ...   Dec 20 2007, 02:33 PM
Steven   ^You just interpreted it as if he said all rectang...   Dec 20 2007, 02:42 PM
ArjunaCapulong   ^ Yeah, I actually agree somewhat. I mean, I...   Dec 20 2007, 03:18 PM
stacygreen   Religion will never die as long as Utah lives.   Dec 20 2007, 04:18 PM
MissHygienic   I think you underestimate the power of parental in...   Dec 20 2007, 06:21 PM
kryogenix   QUOTE(MissHygienic @ Dec 20 2007, 06:21 P...   Dec 20 2007, 07:30 PM
MissHygienic   QUOTE(kryogenix @ Dec 20 2007, 07:30 PM) ...   Dec 21 2007, 02:50 AM
mycupoftea   No, (like others have said), it will not go out BE...   Dec 20 2007, 07:39 PM
xfrodobagginsx   QUOTE(Steven @ Dec 20 2007, 12:38 PM) So,...   Dec 21 2007, 12:51 AM
Steven   QUOTE(xfrodobagginsx @ Dec 20 2007, 11:51...   Dec 21 2007, 09:58 AM
Joss-eh-lime   QUOTE(xfrodobagginsx @ Dec 20 2007, 09:51...   Dec 22 2007, 10:10 PM
LoveToMySilas   I highly doubt that religion will just vanish afte...   Dec 23 2007, 01:10 AM
Fist   Unless we found out .. another creature were the o...   Dec 23 2007, 05:57 PM
Bishinobi   ^I never understood the concept of fasting, nor bl...   Dec 23 2007, 08:53 PM
Steven   RE: Will religion fade out?   Dec 24 2007, 01:03 AM
Call911Quick   ^ that looks photoshopped   Dec 24 2007, 01:21 AM
ArjunaCapulong   I'm pretty sure it's not photoshopped. I...   Dec 24 2007, 01:25 AM
Steven   It's not photoshopped. That picture was taken...   Dec 24 2007, 01:29 AM
The-Abominable-CPillar   Of course it will, given time, everything fades ou...   Dec 24 2007, 12:26 PM
Steven   Sure maybe religious figures will fade out, but I ...   Dec 24 2007, 01:27 PM
IGetSex   QUOTE(Steven @ Dec 24 2007, 01:27 PM) Sur...   Dec 24 2007, 01:43 PM
ArjunaCapulong   What if you were born into an atheist family? We...   Dec 24 2007, 03:01 PM
ersatz   I don't really care what belief system is forc...   Dec 24 2007, 07:02 PM
jaeman   Religion will not fade out.   Jan 3 2008, 09:04 PM


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