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Special Education/Programs for the "Mentally Challenged", Useful or useless? |
Dec 12 2007, 03:32 AM
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There has been an ongoing debate about whether or not to levy taxes to properly fund public schools. I already know of a few under-funded school districts who forced teachers to work double shifts, and many schools were not able to provide paper, pens, or pencils because no one paid enough taxes.
With that said, what is your opinion on special education that is funded by the state? Public schools are already having a hard enough time. Should people waste more time and money on people with irreconcilable disabilities, or do you believe that all people should have education, whether or not they make use of it? Discuss amongst yourselves. |
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Dec 19 2007, 02:19 PM
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![]() Quand j'étais jeune... ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 6,826 Joined: Jan 2004 Member No: 1,272 |
If everyone is in accordance that those with disabilities that can still function or learn to function should be eligible for special education programs, then there's really no controversy. There are evaluation standards (that vary by programs/schools/districts) for enrollment in these programs. As such, they will probably limit or filter out who is eligible or who is not able to benefit from the program.
As for funding these programs, hell yes. In my humble opinion, it shouldn't matter who is "necessary" to society. If we begin to classify ourselves and designate certain rights to certain groups of people, it will be disastrous; where will it end? The right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness should not be unavaible to these people. About "dependency" and causing problems to those around them, babies and the elderly may very well belong in these categories, shall parents not spend money on their babies and shall we cut off funding to programs that aid seniors? Where will it stop? It doesn't. |
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Dec 19 2007, 03:30 PM
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![]() Tick tock, Bill ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Administrator Posts: 8,764 Joined: Dec 2005 Member No: 333,948 |
As for funding these programs, hell yes. In my humble opinion, it shouldn't matter who is "necessary" to society. If we begin to classify ourselves and designate certain rights to certain groups of people, it will be disastrous; where will it end? The right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness should not be unavaible to these people. About "dependency" and causing problems to those around them, babies and the elderly may very well belong in these categories, shall parents not spend money on their babies and shall we cut off funding to programs that aid seniors? Where will it stop? It doesn't. That was what I was trying to elude to before, although not nearly as well as you have said outright here. I can truly understand both sides of the argument, my problem is the idea or sentiment that certain individuals are inherently useless, without a hope. |
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MissHygienic Special Education/Programs for the "Mentally Challenged" Dec 12 2007, 03:32 AM
CowerPointyObjects Gifted students (typically qualified by having ove... Dec 12 2007, 03:59 AM
JakeKKing QUOTE(CowerPointyObjects @ Dec 12 2007, 03... Dec 13 2007, 01:28 AM
MissHygienic Well, in the title, I also clarified that it was ... Dec 12 2007, 04:06 AM
Amechi QUOTE(MissHygienic @ Dec 12 2007, 03:06 A... Dec 14 2007, 02:29 AM
CowerPointyObjects Ah, sorry. It was 4am and I was freaking out about... Dec 12 2007, 09:10 AM
Steven Put them in the tard cart and take them to work in... Dec 12 2007, 09:19 AM
CowerPointyObjects Anyway (oh how I hate myself for typing this inste... Dec 12 2007, 09:57 AM
ersatz But it's not doing its job. These people are n... Dec 12 2007, 04:24 PM
CowerPointyObjects Cutting funding certainly isn't going to help ... Dec 12 2007, 04:54 PM
ersatz We're not funding special education, is my poi... Dec 12 2007, 07:17 PM
superstitious I am definitely going to have to edit this later, ... Dec 12 2007, 08:05 PM
MissHygienic QUOTE(superstitious @ Dec 12 2007, 08:05 ... Dec 12 2007, 08:11 PM
superstitious QUOTE(MissHygienic @ Dec 12 2007, 07:11 P... Dec 12 2007, 08:16 PM
brooklyneast05 schools could cut down on other things couldn... Dec 12 2007, 08:18 PM
Cowboy QUOTE(brooklyneast05 @ Dec 12 2007, 06:18... Dec 12 2007, 08:31 PM
MissFits I have seen these classes work.
I used to voluntee... Dec 12 2007, 08:20 PM
karmakiller I'm in Special Ed, and I do believe that it he... Dec 12 2007, 08:22 PM
MissHygienic I should state that I'm not talking about the ... Dec 12 2007, 08:23 PM
superstitious Understood, but I do not think that cutting taxes ... Dec 12 2007, 08:29 PM
Cowboy QUOTE(superstitious @ Dec 12 2007, 06:29 ... Dec 12 2007, 08:36 PM
MissHygienic QUOTE(superstitious @ Dec 12 2007, 08:29 ... Dec 12 2007, 08:40 PM
brooklyneast05 yeah but that doesn't seem to be the case. if ... Dec 12 2007, 08:34 PM
angelrevelation I work with autistic kids as a "class" a... Dec 12 2007, 08:41 PM
Cowboy Those who are completely dependent, and or viably ... Dec 12 2007, 09:07 PM
superstitious Not sure what the god's green earth stuff is a... Dec 12 2007, 09:11 PM
CowerPointyObjects QUOTE(JakeKKing @ Dec 13 2007, 01:28 AM) ... Dec 13 2007, 11:08 AM
JakeKKing QUOTE(CowerPointyObjects @ Dec 13 2007, 11... Dec 13 2007, 03:48 PM
CowerPointyObjects ... Dec 13 2007, 04:08 PM
ersatz We don't have gifted classes. Where's our ... Dec 14 2007, 08:02 AM
CowerPointyObjects There's probably just less allocated. No gifte... Dec 14 2007, 09:37 PM
CowerPointyObjects Double post <_< Dec 14 2007, 09:38 PM
NoSex I don't like retards eating my money. Dec 18 2007, 04:34 PM
Uronacid QUOTE(NoSex @ Dec 18 2007, 04:34 PM) I do... Dec 18 2007, 04:37 PM

superstitious QUOTE(Uronacid @ Dec 18 2007, 03:37 PM) I... Dec 19 2007, 11:46 AM
Villainess QUOTE(NoSex @ Dec 18 2007, 03:34 PM) I do... Dec 19 2007, 11:48 AM
kryogenix Our highschool was like some kind of magnet school... Dec 18 2007, 11:09 PM
Uronacid Here Kyro,
Read this. Dec 19 2007, 08:30 AM
kryogenix QUOTE(Uronacid @ Dec 19 2007, 08:30 AM) H... Dec 19 2007, 11:36 AM
Uronacid QUOTE(kryogenix @ Dec 19 2007, 11:36 AM) ... Dec 19 2007, 04:14 PM
MissFits In my town we just passed 120 MILLION dollar schoo... Dec 19 2007, 11:51 AM
Villainess QUOTE(MissFits @ Dec 19 2007, 10:51 AM) I... Dec 19 2007, 11:53 AM
MissFits Exactly!
You said exactly what I wanted to say... Dec 19 2007, 11:54 AM
reptilia I think that these programs are very useful. I hap... Dec 19 2007, 12:46 PM
c0cONuTTeR They should definitely fund special ed classes... Dec 19 2007, 01:01 PM
The-Abominable-CPillar This is going to make me sound like an a-hole, but... Jan 2 2008, 10:18 PM
jaeman I see these types of programs extremely helpful bu... Jan 3 2008, 02:45 AM![]() ![]() |