Women's Rights = Divorce Rate, New Debate Topic Options

[Uronacid]

The Debate:

The divorce rate has been on a major rise over the past few decades. Women's rights have escalated throughout the course of the previous century and continue the rise in rise in this one. Humankind is searching for sexual equality, but is "equality" really the answer? Scientifically we excel in different areas. Is there a connection between the divorce rate and women's rights?

[demolished]

Housewife with children has my total respect.

We need women to stand at home to watch the kids and monitor the house. =/

[MissHygienic]

Housewife with children has my total respect.

We need women to stand at home to watch the kids and monitor the house. =/

Disregarding personal choice, I see no reason why you are saying that there should be more women subjected to a life confined in the parameters of their property and a little mini-clone of themselves. Time and time again, we hear women bitching about lower wages because of their sex; they are not being treated equally; they are the lesser of man, yet women end up being housewives, effectively pulling themselves out of the work force, and to watch the kids and monitor the house. This is very clearly gender role separation?

There are many exceptions, and life isn't about fame or wealth, but this world could use more people working, instead of having them at home and thinking about reproducing over and over. This world is already crowded, and if there's one term I can put on housewives, it'd be "heavy consumer." What do they give back to the world? Especially to the women who have kids right after high school. I can't imagine these girls are experienced enough to maximize productivity.

I could see how "women's rights," as in women who go out and pursue a life other than being a housewife, is in correlation with divorce rate because they want equality, and by all means, I support it. I believe it's only a minor factor in divorce rates, however. In a broader aspect, it's mostly girls and boys who end up with the wrong people and learning later on that they made mistakes. Fun.

[demolished]

Disregarding personal choice, I see no reason why you are saying that there should be more women subjected to a life confined in the parameters of their property and a little mini-clone of themselves. Time and time again, we hear women bitching about lower wages because of their sex; they are not being treated equally; they are the lesser of man, yet women end up being housewives, effectively pulling themselves out of the work force, and to watch the kids and monitor the house. This is very clearly gender role separation?

I DO respect women as much as men in terms of power and wealth. There's no excuse for salaries reductions. Yes, women do bitch because they want to work. What's wrong with women being housewives ... when dad's at work ALREADY supporting the family?

My mom is a housewife, and I totally love her. She works hard to settle things down in a family of 7 members. She serves an inspiration role model for us, siblings. We were poor, not wealthy, and 1st generation of Asian American. Shouldn't mom be concern about their children who's growing up, learning, and becoming a young adult WHILE dad's at work SUPPORTING the family? Parents are responsible for their children. My mom does her job very well. My family is walking with big step to success, the American Dream, but we're not rich but we're trying to break through the social class. All my siblings graduated from school. my sister major in business, other one major in teaching & passionate about children, brother major in criminology but working as business claim adjustor, and brother major in business. if mom wasn't there for us, not being caution about us, not nagging the freak out of us, not annoying us as hell even though we hated her like a mother flippin bitch sometimes, not giving more-than enough attention and concern about us, we probably wouldn't be doing fine.


This is my reasons, my core value, argumentation of heart, and emotional appeals for stating my post earlier.

There are many exceptions, and life isn't about fame or wealth, but this world could use more people working, instead of having them at home and thinking about reproducing over and over. This world is already crowded, and if there's one term I can put on housewives, it'd be "heavy consumer." What do they give back to the world? Especially to the women who have kids right after high school. I can't imagine these girls are experienced enough to maximize productivity.

"Thinking about reproducing over and over" .... What the heck are you thinking? We ARE giving back to the world by teaching our children and leading them to better life than they did.



Think about what mother can do for the children to achieve and reach their potential? Children, now, are the future starting from today. And what happen to them reflect the society.

I could see how "women's rights," as in women who go out and pursue a life other than being a housewife, is in correlation with divorce rate because they want equality, and by all means, I support it. I believe it's only a minor factor in divorce rates, however. In a broader aspect, it's mostly girls and boys who end up with the wrong people and learning later on that they made mistakes. Fun.

I don't care if women go out to work OR MEN and not watch the dam children. It's their choice and what they want best for themselves or everyone.


and please ... think of this as a friendly talk. i'm not really debating

[MissHygienic]

I DO respect women as much as men in terms of power and wealth. There's no excuse for salaries reductions. Yes, women do bitch because they want to work. What's wrong with women being housewives ... when dad's at work ALREADY supporting the family?

My mom is a housewife, and I totally love her. She works hard to settle things down in a family of 7 members. She serves an inspiration role model for us, siblings. We were poor, not wealthy, and 1st generation of Asian American. Shouldn't mom be concern about their children who's growing up, learning, and becoming a young adult WHILE dad's at work SUPPORTING the family? Parents are responsible for their children. My mom does her job very well. My family is walking with big step to success, the American Dream, but we're not rich but we're trying to break through the social class. All my siblings graduated from school. my sister major in business, other one major in teaching & passionate about children, brother major in criminology but working as business claim adjustor, and brother major in business. if mom wasn't there for us, not being caution about us, not nagging the freak out of us, not annoying us as hell even though we hated her like a mother flippin bitch sometimes, not giving more-than enough attention and concern about us, we probably wouldn't be doing fine.
This is my reasons, my core value, argumentation of heart, and emotional appeals for stating my post earlier.

"Thinking about reproducing over and over" .... What the heck are you thinking? We ARE giving back to the world by teaching our children and leading them to better life than they did.

Think about what mother can do for the children to achieve and reach their potential? Children, now, are the future starting from today. And what happen to them reflect the society.
I don't care if women go out to work OR MEN and not watch the dam children. It's their choice and what they want best for themselves or everyone.

and please ... think of this as a friendly talk. i'm not really debating

Not to pull you away from your sweet reverie, here, but did you even take the time to analyze the points I made in my post? I did not say there was something wrong with women choosing to be housewives. I said that I did not understand why in God's name you would suggest that we need more women to "watch the kids and monitor the house." These were your words. I also did not really care to hear your life story, as it had nothing to do with the topic, anyway.

Since you had to share it, I have a few speculations of my own to invalidate your story. One of them being that you come from an Asian-American background, and I know that a lot of traditional Asian mothers feel as if they need to pressure their children to be the best. In your own words, you said that she nagged the hell out of you, because she was vicariously living through her children. Was she actually supporting you, or was she pushing you and your siblings to be what she never was? Go ahead and deny everything here, though, they're just some doubts I had.

One thing you cannot deny is that children do look up to their mothers as role models. Now, as for the mothers right out of high school who have a sugar-daddy, the mother's life decisions can be heavily influential to the child. "I don't have to do a lot; I will let my husband do everything and raise kids in hopes of them being mildly more useful than I was." Do you see the cycle here? In many cases, women will conceive children who will grow up to be housewives with little to no experience, and they will produce more kids who will grow up to be nothing but consumers in this world. It is not about majoring in business. You can major in any-f**king-thing you want, and it still might not get you anywhere.

What is this about "potential" and "future?" You're quite the optimistic one, aren't you? There is no logic in shoving the labor and "potential for success" onto your kids, if you are in no way successful yourself because it likely won't work out. Do you pay attention to global issues? Recycling, sewage issues, schools with less and less math teachers, overpopulation, homelessness. And you think it's a smarter idea to hope for the best that the future generation will take care of it. Why not promote the housewife lifestyle and let the men take care of things? No worries, even though women do make up more than 50 percent of the population. And there should be more housewives.