Consequentialism Options

[*Steven*]

Ends justifies the means.

[*Steven*]

Communism in idea isn't bad. It would just, well, never work.

I wouldn't mind being the person out of the money if it didn't change my way of life. If I could still live the way I live and not worry about things, I honestly wouldn't care.I'm not very materialistic and I never have been :)

Regarding the government catering to minorities. I don't believe that we got where we are today by catering to minorities. We got here with a "to hell with everyone else, what about us?" attitude. We did some things back in the day that would be shunned by today's society. Don't take this as me saying Slavery was right, because I have a black friend therefore I'm a presiding expert on the matter . No but seriously, I'm not a supporter :)

I just think it's ridiculous when we have all these minorities immigrating here, taking more from the government than they put back into our economy, and complaining about conditions here. Then they bitch and moan about Christmas, the religion of the majority of America. But It's okay to celebrate Hanukkah, Ramadan, or whatever other Holidays the world celebrates, because that's religiously tolerant.

[*CowerPointyObjects*]

I wouldn't mind being the person out of the money if it didn't change my way of life. If I could still live the way I live and not worry about things, I honestly wouldn't care.I'm not very materialistic and I never have been :)

Hmm, then I'm curious how you can be such a strong advocate of conservative monetary policy (or is it fiscal? dammit, it hasn't been that long since I took econ). This isn't an attack on your political views, for the record, just curious. Because I'm not sure where the line is to say what would change the way you live versus what wouldn't. A lot of time it seems people object to tax raises on principle alone, when in actuality it effects them very little, while it is able to more significantly help other programs and people.

Regarding the government catering to minorities. I don't believe that we got where we are today by catering to minorities. We got here with a "to hell with everyone else, what about us?" attitude. We did some things back in the day that would be shunned by today's society. Don't take this as me saying Slavery was right, because I have a black friend therefore I'm a presiding expert on the matter . No but seriously, I'm not a supporter :)

Disregarding minority input would essentially mean fascism. Though the framers were actually pretty anti-democracy (at least in its true sense, seeing as that'd be mobocracy), this country was still founded on the theory that other cultures and religions and whatnot should be respected. That obviously was not the case in many historical instances, but we'd likely be better off if we hadn't gone through those things. Could be wrong, seeing as I can't go back and time and test things out, but in general. ...I sort of don't know what I'm talking about anymore, so moving on.

I just think it's ridiculous when we have all these minorities immigrating here, taking more from the government than they put back into our economy, and complaining about conditions here. Then they bitch and moan about Christmas, the religion of the majority of America. But It's okay to celebrate Hanukkah, Ramadan, or whatever other Holidays the world celebrates, because that's religiously tolerant.

Where would we be without all those immigrants working the jobs that "we" don't want to, though? Plus, the illegals would tend to be Christian. Anyone who immigrated legally cannot rightfully be bitched about, because we'd really be nowhere if people hadn't immigrated here. Great thing about America, right? To complain about alternative cultures not fitting into "ours" is just to repeat the some of silliest aspects of American history. Although, the Know-Nothing party was pretty badass. Still, while holiday neutralization is getting awfully ridiculous, I don't think the point is to say no Christmas as to recognize others simultaneously (not that I recommend you celebrate Ramadan in December...not that I'm sure how you'd go about celebrating Ramadan beyond being religious, but whatever. Chanukah's pretty commercialized).


Oh, and for the record I did start this post yesterday