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Consequentialism
*Steven*
post Dec 10 2007, 07:06 PM
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Ends justifies the means.
 
 
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Spirited Away
post Dec 10 2007, 07:49 PM
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no no. i mean what i said wasn't an original idea; i'm repeating an argument. i will edit this later with a response if one is called for.

QUOTE(Steven @ Dec 10 2007, 06:48 PM) *
I'm not claiming it as an original idea. I found a definition of my outlook and this seemed to fit it pretty decently. Should the end be known, however, is there any issue?

What if the detriment of one is an equal benefit shared amongst many? One person loses 5$ 100 people gain 5$. One person is negatively affected by a new policy, but 10 are helped. Minorities are given less preferential treatment, and the majority's paid more attention.


A person "losing" $5 through what means? Was it stolen or was it a voluntary loss? Also, if a person loses $5, only one other person can gain that exact $5, FYI.

What happens with coercion or force is that it doesn't usually stop with one person or one event. As it is, "policy" rarely affects just one person. By your reasoning, the opinions and rights of minorities should yield to the opinions and rights of the majority. The image your producing out of that logic is of the South embracing slavery and of America ignoring women rights, for example. To continue, a person or entity with the power to utilize any means to get the desired end won't stop with one event. They'll want to do more.
 

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Steven   Consequentialism   Dec 10 2007, 07:06 PM
brooklyneast05   well i'm def not a deontologist, so i guess i...   Dec 10 2007, 07:24 PM
Spirited Away   Note: this is not an original idea- The end does n...   Dec 10 2007, 07:44 PM
Steven   I'm not claiming it as an original idea. I fo...   Dec 10 2007, 07:48 PM
Spirited Away   no no. i mean what i said wasn't an original i...   Dec 10 2007, 07:49 PM
Steven   Ohhhhhhhh. I see I see. Yeah I don' think th...   Dec 10 2007, 07:51 PM
Spirited Away   I edited =) It's a good topic. I like it.   Dec 10 2007, 07:58 PM
Steven   Ooer didn't mean for that idea to come out. I...   Dec 10 2007, 09:03 PM
Spirited Away   Damn it, that was long. DOn't you know I have ...   Dec 11 2007, 01:58 AM
Steven   Communism in idea isn't bad. It would just, w...   Dec 11 2007, 08:28 AM
CowerPointyObjects   QUOTE(Steven @ Dec 11 2007, 08:28 AM) I w...   Dec 14 2007, 12:10 AM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(Steven @ Dec 11 2007, 07:28 AM) 1. ...   Dec 14 2007, 12:30 AM
CowerPointyObjects   I don't believe that communist is an inherentl...   Dec 12 2007, 04:02 AM
Steven   It's tomorrow.   Dec 13 2007, 08:45 PM
Steven   Damn I just got post raped. I'll have to writ...   Dec 14 2007, 12:49 AM
Spirited Away   1. I'm not saying totally disregard the minori...   Dec 17 2007, 12:52 PM
Steven   Long response, too much to respond to at work, so ...   Dec 17 2007, 01:03 PM
brooklyneast05   what steven? u want them to leave me out in the co...   Dec 17 2007, 01:16 PM
Steven   Well, you're black, and I'm pretty conserv...   Dec 17 2007, 01:28 PM
brooklyneast05   awww shoot   Dec 17 2007, 01:28 PM
Spirited Away   Yea, the only reason I type all that up at work is...   Dec 17 2007, 01:53 PM
Steven   :( I do that :( I'll be thinking about one pa...   Dec 17 2007, 03:24 PM
Spirited Away   Well, that's nice. I'll be looking forward...   Dec 17 2007, 04:50 PM
Steven   It happens, no biggie though :)   Dec 17 2007, 07:11 PM


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