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The Golden Compass, Selling Kids to Atheism?
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post Dec 6 2007, 02:28 PM
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Ok so i'm sure you've all heard of The golden Compass[Idk why you shouldn't if you didn't becausethey've been advetsing it like hell.].
And some beleivers are boycotting this movie because they think it sells kids to Atheism.
So my question is, from what you've seen in the previews, do you think that this movie does sell atheism to kids.

From what i've seen, no.
I mean I don't really no the story or anything but it doesn't look so bad to me. IT looks like a fantasy, kind of like narnia but you know, written by an atheist.

So what do you think?
 
 
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post Dec 6 2007, 06:32 PM
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QUOTE(pureimaginationx23 @ Dec 6 2007, 06:50 PM) *
In their head. In reality I suppose they don't believe in it.


right, so if in reality he doesn't believe in god, what makes him different that anyone else who writes stories? the thing is, if he was writing about any other subject other than god, u wouldn't find it at all strange that he's writing about something he doesn't believe in.

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I don't think that kids will get the meaning out of this, unless they state that they want to kill god or whatever. I think kids will just see it as another fantasy movie. I know my friends that aren't christian took narnia as just another fantasy movie so why not this one?

exactly. this movie isn't going to say HEY KIDS WE NEED TO KILL GOD! kid's are gonna see it like any other story they watch.

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The church doesn't push their beliefs onto people in the community excpet those willing to sit in it and listen. It's atheists who are always pushing thier beliefs onto the community. The cross at Soledad in San Diego, the dude that had the Pledge of Allegiance banned from his daughters school up in Sacramento, and is now fighting the Supreme Court to remove in God we trust of our money. I mean if you want to argue this, I'm all for it. If our money isn't good enough for an atheist, then they can quit using it so there is more of it around for the rest of us.
I do take it as just a book, I haven't read it, and I will not take my child to the movie. Will she figure it out? Darm Skippy she will. Kids pick up on all sorts of things these days.
The whole reason I started blogging, was to answer someone's question about the movie and all the hype surrounding it.


cowerpointyobjects has already brought up the chronicles of narnia and their christian influences. do i care? no, i like those books. do i think people who read them are being brainwashed into christian views? no, not really. i don't think kids even pick up on these things. even if they did, i don't think it's enough for them to change their beliefs over it

the cross was on city property, had it been on private property, that would have been a different story. it violates separation of church and state, that's just how it is. let's erect a 43 foot tribute to islam on city owned land and see how that goes over.

pledge allegiance banned? don't u mean the phrase "under god" be taken out. that's not banning the pledge allegiance. under god, which god? the christian god? what about those who worship more than one god? we're playing favorites here

in god we trust on the money.
reminding us to trust in god just isn't the job of the state.

u say that the church doesn't push it's beliefs on anyone. that doesn't work with the example of in god we trust as our national motto on our currency. our original national motto from benjamin franklin and thomas jefferson is a secular one, E Pluribus Unum. who do u think pushed that idea out for a religious one? eh?

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"if our money isn't good enough for an atheist, they can quit using it"

these things aren't just about atheists. "in god we trust" refers to one god, what about the people who believe in more than one god? what about people who believe in another god instead of the christian one? separation of church and state protects my rights as well as christian's from other religions being forced on them. do u want islamic symbols on our currency?

i don't really care if they remove it or not, to be honest i won't even notice unless someone tells me. i'm just saying.
 
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QUOTE(brooklyneast05 @ Dec 6 2007, 06:32 PM) *
right, so if in reality he doesn't believe in god, what makes him different that anyone else who writes stories? the thing is, if he was writing about any other subject other than god, u wouldn't find it at all strange that he's writing about something he doesn't believe in.
exactly.

I don't find it strange now. I mean, I don't know him, I don't if he's beleived in god once in his life. I don't kknow anything. And I don't feel its the same with witches and what not but I suppose to you it could be. The way he's playing off the church [I think that would be the catholic church im not sure tho] kinda sounds like he's angry with it for some reason Idk cuz I don't care much to look into it.
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I had no idea it was anything religious.

I still think I'llk go see for myself.

It's not religious.

The way I see it, is the church reacting to something they can't control. Fortunately, the church doesn't rule the world today so we can be able to say what we please and beleive in whatever. I see the people boycotting this as stupid, but I can see why they are boycotting it. To stand for their beleifs, if they are that religious they can boycott al they want but they aren't rly going to stop anyone from seeing it. This is the same story wi th Harry Potter, insecure christians say Harry Potter was from the devil. Its a ton of bs but either way we cant rly do anything about it. WEll, accept for enlightening the people but most don't want to listen anyways.
 

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pureimaginationx23   The Golden Compass   Dec 6 2007, 02:28 PM
S-Majere   The only redeeming feature of this movie would be ...   Dec 6 2007, 02:34 PM
jeanna   well i have a feeling the movie will get a lot of ...   Dec 6 2007, 02:42 PM
CowerPointyObjects   Failed? The books were great. Not so much the thir...   Dec 6 2007, 02:59 PM
S-Majere   QUOTE(CowerPointyObjects @ Dec 6 2007, 02...   Dec 6 2007, 03:06 PM
pureimaginationx23   Exactly! so i don't see why the catholic c...   Dec 6 2007, 03:02 PM
Peanups   QUOTE(pureimaginationx23 @ Dec 6 2007, 03...   Dec 7 2007, 07:39 PM
Synesthesia   QUOTE(S-Majere @ Dec 6 2007, 02:34 P...   Dec 6 2007, 03:07 PM
Insurmountable   I heard it was a book...and it has a talking polar...   Dec 6 2007, 03:44 PM
Synesthesia   QUOTE(Insurmountable @ Dec 6 2007, 03:44 ...   Dec 6 2007, 03:58 PM
Insurmountable   QUOTE(Synesthesia @ Dec 6 2007, 03:58 PM)...   Dec 6 2007, 05:40 PM
puppydgtails   There is a really good article on Snopes.com about...   Dec 6 2007, 04:37 PM
brooklyneast05   QUOTE(puppydgtails @ Dec 6 2007, 05:37 PM...   Dec 6 2007, 04:39 PM
puppydgtails   QUOTE(brooklyneast05 @ Dec 6 2007, 01:39 ...   Dec 6 2007, 04:46 PM
brooklyneast05   i'm saying why would he need to believe in som...   Dec 6 2007, 04:52 PM
pureimaginationx23   QUOTE(brooklyneast05 @ Dec 6 2007, 04:52 ...   Dec 6 2007, 05:17 PM
puppydgtails   QUOTE(brooklyneast05 @ Dec 6 2007, 01:52 ...   Dec 6 2007, 05:24 PM
jeanna   QUOTE(puppydgtails @ Dec 6 2007, 06:24 PM...   Dec 6 2007, 07:03 PM
brooklyneast05   so u think that the fictional writers believe in g...   Dec 6 2007, 05:23 PM
pureimaginationx23   QUOTE(brooklyneast05 @ Dec 6 2007, 05:23 ...   Dec 6 2007, 05:50 PM
brooklyneast05   why don't people just take a book for what it ...   Dec 6 2007, 05:31 PM
puppydgtails   The church doesn't push their beliefs onto peo...   Dec 6 2007, 05:43 PM
brooklyneast05   QUOTE(pureimaginationx23 @ Dec 6 2007, 06...   Dec 6 2007, 06:32 PM
MissFits   QUOTE(brooklyneast05 @ Dec 6 2007, 08:32 ...   Dec 6 2007, 09:19 PM
pureimaginationx23   QUOTE(brooklyneast05 @ Dec 6 2007, 06:32 ...   Dec 7 2007, 12:04 PM
brooklyneast05   QUOTE(pureimaginationx23 @ Dec 7 2007, 01...   Dec 7 2007, 12:22 PM
Joss-eh-lime   QUOTE(pureimaginationx23 @ Dec 7 2007, 09...   Dec 9 2007, 01:29 PM
Relentless   Woah, I never heard of that, it sells "Atheis...   Dec 6 2007, 06:45 PM
brooklyneast05   ^ i know right   Dec 6 2007, 06:56 PM
doiink   I LOVED THE BOOKS. and really, it's not that b...   Dec 6 2007, 09:08 PM
ersatz   Woooooooow, hahaha. Christians don't push thei...   Dec 6 2007, 09:49 PM
Joss-eh-lime   I had no idea it was anything religious. I still ...   Dec 6 2007, 11:42 PM
Uronacid   Honestly, the Christians who are boycotting this m...   Dec 7 2007, 09:40 AM
Call911Quick   I don't see how it was Aethist. I'm a Chr...   Dec 7 2007, 11:33 AM
puppydgtails   Why does everyone seem to think I'm trying to ...   Dec 7 2007, 03:53 PM
pureimaginationx23   QUOTE(puppydgtails @ Dec 7 2007, 03:53 PM...   Dec 8 2007, 12:29 PM
Call911Quick   I think people ignored my post? I'm a Christi...   Dec 7 2007, 08:21 PM
kryogenix   QUOTE(Call911Quick @ Dec 7 2007, 08:21 PM...   Dec 9 2007, 01:42 PM
Steven   QUOTE(kryogenix @ Dec 9 2007, 12:42 PM) P...   Dec 9 2007, 02:42 PM
brooklyneast05   ^exactly QUOTEWhy does everyone seem to think I...   Dec 7 2007, 11:09 PM
Moderator   I mean there a lot of movies dedicated to Christia...   Dec 8 2007, 12:49 PM
OhSoDanny   If this is selling atheism, then what is the churc...   Dec 8 2007, 02:22 PM
kryogenix   Yeah, I too have heard that the anti Catholic aspe...   Dec 9 2007, 04:22 PM
Steven   Damn, I had intentions of going to see it but mayb...   Dec 9 2007, 10:08 PM
Michelle   Yes, kind of like how reading Harry Potter will tu...   Dec 10 2007, 07:02 PM
superstitious   QUOTE(Michelle @ Dec 10 2007, 06:02 PM) Y...   Dec 30 2007, 12:12 PM
Steven   QUOTE(superstitious @ Dec 30 2007, 11:12 ...   Dec 30 2007, 11:25 PM
stacygreen   QUOTE(Steven @ Dec 30 2007, 08:25 PM) Are...   Dec 30 2007, 11:31 PM
NoSex   QUOTE(stacygreen @ Dec 30 2007, 10:31 PM)...   Dec 31 2007, 06:22 AM
superstitious   QUOTE(NoSex @ Dec 31 2007, 05:22 AM) The ...   Dec 31 2007, 09:44 AM
NoSex   QUOTE(superstitious @ Dec 31 2007, 08:44 ...   Dec 31 2007, 11:18 AM
superstitious   QUOTE(NoSex @ Dec 31 2007, 10:18 AM) And ...   Dec 31 2007, 12:02 PM
Steven   It will. I got a zit on my nose from reading it. ...   Dec 10 2007, 07:03 PM
brooklyneast05   i saw this movie last night, it was eh, okay i gue...   Dec 30 2007, 12:05 PM
Spirited Away   Atheism promotes itself; there's not need for ...   Dec 30 2007, 12:55 PM
Bishinobi   ^That's a shame.   Dec 31 2007, 12:09 PM
Call911Quick   ^not allowed to watch fantasy? Wow Mormons have s...   Jan 9 2008, 05:03 AM
pureimaginationx23   QUOTE(Call911Quick @ Jan 9 2008, 05:03 AM...   Jan 9 2008, 03:00 PM
yrrnotelekktric   Even after watching the movie, i see SOME elements...   Jan 9 2008, 02:57 PM
ersatz   And that's also mainly Orthodox Jews; most Ref...   Jan 9 2008, 04:44 PM
CowerPointyObjects   Or Conservative Jews, which is way more common tha...   Jan 16 2008, 12:24 AM
ersatz   You're talking about Mr. Mormons are weird, ri...   Jan 17 2008, 05:40 PM
yrrnotelekktric   ^I agree. I don`t find rules of Jewish people ...   Jan 18 2008, 05:23 AM
DeadlyKitten   okay. its just a MOVIE! movies arent real. I b...   Jan 20 2008, 11:56 PM


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