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Going Green
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post Dec 4 2007, 08:58 PM
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This topic is for:
-Stating you opinions on going green. Wheather you disagree or agree.
-Stating your opinions on Peta [Yes, I do feel its relevant with going green, eat it if you disagree.]
This topic is not for:
-Saying stupid one liners that don't make sense at all.
-Bashing others for not liking Peta/The green world and vice versa.

Now, with that being said I'm to state my opinons on this. :]

I think its lame that all of the celebrities an like their little followers are just being glorified as that greatest things in the world just because they all of the sudden went green. I don't feel that they deserve to be glorified when they probably do the most damage to the earth. I also don't like how its an in thing, its kinda lame and I didn't think it would bother me this much. Yet, it does, it's like every where I turn its Jessica Simpson gave so much money to this green charity or Fergie sold her Hummer. I think its great that they want to change the world but I feel like its all for press.

As for Peta. I love Peta. I think its a great organization and I think they're doing a great job with helping animals. The only thing I don't like is that it tries to get you be vegan. Like yeah its great if your are but if your in Peta it's like you need to be. I know thats a whole part of their statement it helps imply that animals are friends but they actually make it like you have to be vegan if your in Peta. I mean of course you don't have to, they don't own you, but they really push it on you.
 
 
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post Dec 5 2007, 08:07 AM
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^ think your right Missfits, I think they just can't see what their real statement is in all of this so they keep adding more.
This is something I took from wiwkipedia
I thought some people might want to read it:
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PETA was criticized in 2005 when police discovered that at least 80 animals had been euthanized and left in area dumpsters over the course of a month. Two PETA employees approached a dumpster in a van registered to PETA and left behind 18 dead animals. Thirteen more were found inside the van. The animals had been euthanized by the PETA employees immediately after taking them from shelters in Northampton and Bertie counties.[87] In a 2005 column in the San Francisco Chronicle, PETA’s director of the Domestic Animals Issues stated that PETA began euthanizing animals in some rural North Carolina shelters by injection after it found that the shelters were killing unwanted animals with rifles and dilapidated gas chambers, both of which they claim are inhumane ways to kill animals.[88] Officials from both counties said they were under the impression that the animals would be euthanized only if a home could not be found for them, and after being fully evaluated by a veterinarian. Both counties suspended their agreements with PETA after the incident.[89]

Among the bodies in the dumpster were a cat and two of her kittens, given to PETA by veterinarian Patrick Proctor of Ahoskie Animal Hospital. According to Proctor, the two kittens were very adoptable, and he said the PETA employees claimed they would have no trouble finding homes for them.[90][91][92] In an interview with CNN, Ingrid Newkirk said that Proctor — who himself carries out euthanasia on behalf of PETA — was not present when the kittens were removed and was therefore not in a position to know what PETA's employees had said. Newkirk added that it was unlikely the employees said they could find homes for the animals, given that the veterinarian's assistant handed the animals to PETA precisely because she knew homes could not be found. "If the veterinarian couldn't find homes for a few kittens and a cat, which is surprising, if they have clients coming in, then that's why they called us, because they know we don't have a magic wand either," Newkirk told CNN. [91]

PETA condemned the dumping as against their policy, and suspended one of the employees involved for 90 days. Police charged the two employees with 31 felony counts of animal cruelty and eight misdemeanor counts of illegal disposal of dead animals. [93] In October, these charges were dropped, and replaced with 42 combined counts of animal cruelty, and 3 counts of "obtaining property under false pretense". [94][95] In the trial, which began on January 22, 2007, [96] both workers were acquitted of all charges, including animal cruelty charges, except a misdemeanor count for improper disposing of the euthanized animals. [7]

In May 2007, the United States Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA) started investigations of how PETA handles euthanasia drugs.[97] According to the DEA, PETA could face fines or sanctions against its license if it finds any wrongdoing, while gross mishandling of drugs could lead to criminal charges.


And I found this at Petakillsanimal.com lol:
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1) PETA president and co-founder Ingrid Newkirk has described her group’s overall goal as “total animal liberation.” This means no meat, no milk, no zoos, no circuses, no wool, no leather, no hunting, no fishing, and no pets (not even seeing-eye dogs). PETA is also against all medical research that requires the use of animals.
2) Despite its constant moralizing about the “unethical” treatment of animals by restaurant owners, grocers, farmers, scientists, anglers, and countless other Americans, PETA has killed over 14,400 dogs and cats at its Norfolk, Virginia headquarters. During 2005, PETA put to death over 90 percent of the animals it collected from members of the public.

3) PETA has given tens of thousands of dollars to convicted arsonists and other violent criminals. This includes a 2001 donation of $1,500 to the North American Earth Liberation Front (ELF), an FBI-certified “domestic terrorist” group responsible for dozens of firebombs and death threats. During the 1990s, PETA paid $70,200 to an Animal Liberation Front (ALF) activist convicted of burning down a Michigan State University research laboratory. In his sentencing recommendation, a federal prosecutor implicated PETA president Ingrid Newkirk in that crime. And PETA vegetarian campaign coordinator Bruce Friedrich told an animal rights convention in 2001 that “blowing stuff up and smashing windows” is “a great way to bring about animal liberation.”

4) PETA activists regularly target children as young as six years old with anti-meat and anti-milk propaganda, often waiting outside their schools to intercept them as they walk to and from class-without notifying parents. One piece of kid-targeted PETA literature tells small children: “Your Mommy Kills Animals!” PETA brags that its messages reach over 2 million children every year, including thousands reached by e-mail without the permission of their parents. One PETA vice president told the Fox News Channel’s audience: “Our campaigns are always geared towards children, and they always will be.”

5) PETA has used a related organization, the PETA Foundation, to fund the misnamed Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine (PCRM), a deceptive animal rights group that promotes itself as an unbiased source of medical and nutritional information. PCRM's president also serves as president of the PETA Foundation.

6) PETA runs campaigns seemingly calculated to offend religious believers. One entire PETA website is devoted to the claim-despite ample evidence to the contrary-that Jesus Christ was a vegetarian. PETA holds protests at houses of worship, even suing one church that tried to protect its members from Sunday-morning harassment. Its billboards taunt Christians with the message that hogs “died for their sins.” PETA insists, contrary to centuries of rabbinical teaching, that the Jewish ritual of kosher slaughter shouldn't be allowed. And its infamous “Holocaust on Your Plate” campaign crassly compares the Jewish victims of Nazi genocide with farm animals.

7) PETA has repeatedly attacked research foundations like the March of Dimes, the Pediatric AIDS Foundation, and the American Cancer Society, because they support animal-based research that might uncover cures for birth defects and life-threatening diseases. PETA president Ingrid Newkirk has said that “even if animal research resulted in a cure for AIDS, we would be against it.”
 

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pureimaginationx23   Going Green   Dec 4 2007, 08:58 PM
misoshiru   debate.   Dec 4 2007, 08:59 PM
Elba   PETA = People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals...   Dec 4 2007, 09:01 PM
misoshiru   QUOTE(Elba @ Dec 5 2007, 10:01 AM) PETE =...   Dec 4 2007, 09:07 PM
brooklyneast05   QUOTE(pureimaginationx23 @ Dec 4 2007, 09...   Dec 4 2007, 09:05 PM
pureimaginationx23   QUOTE(brooklyneast05 @ Dec 4 2007, 09:05 ...   Dec 4 2007, 09:42 PM
Elba   I MEANT PETA, HAHAHA. You know what I meant.   Dec 4 2007, 09:09 PM
Michelle   Isn't PETA the one who got caught abusing anim...   Dec 4 2007, 09:46 PM
misoshiru   QUOTE(Michelle @ Dec 5 2007, 10:46 AM) Is...   Dec 4 2007, 09:47 PM
pureimaginationx23   QUOTE(misoshiru @ Dec 4 2007, 09:47 PM) y...   Dec 4 2007, 09:51 PM
brooklyneast05   QUOTE(pureimaginationx23 @ Dec 4 2007, 10...   Dec 4 2007, 09:46 PM
brooklyneast05   what are u trying to do to "go green"?   Dec 4 2007, 09:54 PM
aestheticYOU   All of this depends on whether or not they're ...   Dec 4 2007, 09:54 PM
pureimaginationx23   QUOTE(aestheticYOU @ Dec 4 2007, 09:54 PM...   Dec 4 2007, 10:04 PM
misoshiru   do you recycle?   Dec 4 2007, 11:03 PM
MissFits   I hate PETA. With a terrible horrible passion. P...   Dec 4 2007, 11:05 PM
pureimaginationx23   QUOTE(MissFits @ Dec 4 2007, 11:05 PM) I ...   Dec 5 2007, 07:31 AM
pandamonium   i downloaded this CO2 saver program that counts ho...   Dec 5 2007, 01:14 AM
misoshiru   ^ it uses electricity. therefore, it has to emit ...   Dec 5 2007, 02:38 AM
pandamonium   QUOTE(misoshiru @ Dec 5 2007, 02:38 AM) ^...   Dec 5 2007, 02:50 AM
RyanWasHere   I say eat your neighbors pets and go buy yourself ...   Dec 5 2007, 02:43 AM
MissFits   ^ I am sure they meant well when they first starte...   Dec 5 2007, 07:40 AM
pureimaginationx23   ^ think your right Missfits, I think they just can...   Dec 5 2007, 08:07 AM
MissFits   Yeah, it's terrible. I really hope people thi...   Dec 5 2007, 08:15 AM
Insurmountable   Moved to Debate...   Dec 5 2007, 08:24 AM
Steven   QUOTE(pureimaginationx23 @ Dec 4 2007, 07...   Dec 5 2007, 09:44 AM
pureimaginationx23   QUOTE(Steven @ Dec 5 2007, 09:44 AM) Goin...   Dec 5 2007, 10:07 AM
Steven   Going green will not stop the earth from warming, ...   Dec 5 2007, 10:11 AM
tungmyBANANA   "Keep in mind that the sun's gonna burn o...   Dec 5 2007, 10:19 AM
pureimaginationx23   QUOTE(tungmyBANANA @ Dec 5 2007, 10:19 AM...   Dec 5 2007, 10:28 AM
Uronacid   QUOTE(pureimaginationx23 @ Dec 5 2007, 10...   Dec 5 2007, 11:04 AM
Steven   QUOTE(Uronacid @ Dec 5 2007, 10:04 AM) We...   Dec 5 2007, 11:28 AM
tungmyBANANA   QUOTE(tungmyBANANA @ Dec 5 2007, 07:19 AM...   Dec 5 2007, 01:15 PM
RyanWasHere   QUOTE(tungmyBANANA @ Dec 5 2007, 10:19 AM...   Dec 5 2007, 04:08 PM
Steven   Then why bother living   Dec 5 2007, 01:18 PM
tungmyBANANA   QUOTE(Steven @ Dec 5 2007, 10:18 AM) Then...   Dec 5 2007, 01:19 PM
Steven   QUOTE(tungmyBANANA @ Dec 5 2007, 12:19 PM...   Dec 5 2007, 03:19 PM
Amechi   i don't want earth to turn into a mush of smog...   Dec 14 2007, 02:24 AM
Steven   Don't worry, we'll nuke the Earth to death...   Dec 14 2007, 02:26 PM


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