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post Nov 20 2007, 10:17 PM
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Alright, this is sort of in response to Podo's (monster's) "feeble attempt" thread.
I'm an atheist. I don't believe in the existence of any god whatsoever. Any questions?

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Peanups
post Dec 3 2007, 10:39 AM
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Well I thought that you'd understand my first statement, obviously; no.

JC- Yes, it kind of pertains to what I was saying. I wasn't stating that God makes right and wrong, I was just asking where you get your morals from. Nevermind, I get what you are saying. But isn't that then making "guidelines" of what is right and wrong? I thought nothing was absolute, isn't that what evolution states since we have nothing to put these laws into place?


Choices are relative right?

My earlier question was and I'll try to state it the best possible;

Since we don't have morals that we ABSOLUTELY have to obide by (right? We are able to pick and choose), then would you consider lying, stealing, cheating, etc. to be alright? Remember; who decides what is right or wrong? If I think the government is wrong, I could basically do whatever I want, right? (This does not mean I am not aware that I will suffer consequences, but if I think if it is in the name of what I think is right, wouldn't it be okay for me to steal money, etc?)
 
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post Dec 3 2007, 11:45 AM
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QUOTE(Peanups @ Dec 3 2007, 11:39 AM) *
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Well I thought that you'd understand my first statement, obviously; no.
JC- Yes, it kind of pertains to what I was saying. I wasn't stating that God makes right and wrong, I was just asking where you get your morals from. Nevermind, I get what you are saying. But isn't that then making "guidelines" of what is right and wrong? I thought nothing was absolute, isn't that what evolution states since we have nothing to put these laws into place?
Choices are relative right?
My earlier question was and I'll try to state it the best possible;
Since we don't have morals that we ABSOLUTELY have to obide by (right? We are able to pick and choose), then would you consider lying, stealing, cheating, etc. to be alright? Remember; who decides what is right or wrong? If I think the government is wrong, I could basically do whatever I want, right? (This does not mean I am not aware that I will suffer consequences, but if I think if it is in the name of what I think is right, wouldn't it be okay for me to steal money, etc?)


the only thing my atheism asserts is that i don't believe in god. my atheism says nothing about my morals or where i get them. i don't get why are u assuming that since i'm atheist then i think this and that and don't believe in this and that. u've never asked me if i think morals are absolute or relative, u've just assumed that based on the fact that i'm an atheist, which makes no sense. also u claim i believe this because it's what evolution says. again, do u not see that u are ASSUMING these things? the fact that im an atheist, says nothing about my belief in evolution. the ONLY thing my atheism tells u is that i don't believe in a god. i don't even understand how u want me to answer this, because ur entire argument is based on assumptions that u've made.


are ur morals absolute?
give me some examples of ur absolute morals



 
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post Dec 3 2007, 06:45 PM
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the only thing my atheism asserts is that i don't believe in god. my atheism says nothing about my morals or where i get them. i don't get why are u assuming that since i'm atheist then i think this and that and don't believe in this and that. u've never asked me if i think morals are absolute or relative, u've just assumed that based on the fact that i'm an atheist, which makes no sense. also u claim i believe this because it's what evolution says. again, do u not see that u are ASSUMING these things? the fact that im an atheist, says nothing about my belief in evolution. the ONLY thing my atheism tells u is that i don't believe in a god. i don't even understand how u want me to answer this, because ur entire argument is based on assumptions that u've made.
are ur morals absolute?
give me some examples of ur absolute morals


I thought it was an "educated guess" to say that since you are and athiest and therefore there is no god, I don't understand where you get right and wrong from.

edit: anyways to fully answer your question.
Yes, I believe in absolutes.
I believe there is a God, made the earth in 6 literal days, rested on the 7th to observe and wonder at His creation.

Basically what Uronacid has said (sorry I forgot your name).
Don't cheat, lie, murder, steal, etc.

Thank you Jeremy and Jeanna, it cleared up some of my quesiton.

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I have been meaning to say what you're saying for quite some time, but I haven't been able to find the correct wording for the argument.


Yes! That is why I had to go in a "circle" as some have said.

I also have another question, but that'll have to wait. Sorry, I have a whole lot of things to do. stubborn.gif
 

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